View Poll Results: Who was the greatest?
The Sex Pistols
37
51.39%
The Clash
28
38.89%
The Damned
5
6.94%
Siouxsie and the Banshees
4
5.56%
The Buzzcocks
7
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The Greatest Punk Band.....
04 January 2005, 05:24 PM
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history of the world is my fave "punk" song of all time!!!! (black album)
mainly cos it had a car revving up at the start...lol.
music to me is very personal, like good books, or indeed films, so i guess diff bands float diff boats for many people....
it was all good really!!!
now we have boy bands!!!!
BB
mainly cos it had a car revving up at the start...lol.
music to me is very personal, like good books, or indeed films, so i guess diff bands float diff boats for many people....
it was all good really!!!
now we have boy bands!!!!
BB
04 January 2005, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by the moose
Joy Division were just awesome - I managed to see them live and having seen a good few other bands previously didn't think they'd be that much different. I was genuinely scared by the atmosphere - very menacing, though this wasn't as a result of the bouncers or the audience. It was just the energy of the band, who were utterly unlike anything I'd seen before, or, to be honest, since, though The Smiths came close in terms of performance, and Springsteen did in terms of workrate.
Other punk bands I'd seen had been the sorts of people who were basically older versions of me - shouty, aggressive, but essentially normal. Ian Curtis was just from a different planet, and the rest of the band weren't far behind (Peter Hook has always been a monster) .... they changed the way I thought about music, and that's something The Clash never did.
Other punk bands I'd seen had been the sorts of people who were basically older versions of me - shouty, aggressive, but essentially normal. Ian Curtis was just from a different planet, and the rest of the band weren't far behind (Peter Hook has always been a monster) .... they changed the way I thought about music, and that's something The Clash never did.
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Hey moose,
That's so funny you paralleling The Smiths and Joy Division as those are my thoughts exactly. I saw them both live (The Smiths several times) and their performances were very intense and atmospheric. Definitely two of the best live bands I have ever witnessed.
As for Peter Hook I had heard all sorts of crazy things about him so when he spilled a pint over me in the Hacienda (in the early 80's when it was more of a venue than a club) I was expecting bad things. He apologised, bought me and my girlfriend a drink and sat chatting to us about all sorts for a couple of hours - totally different to what I was expecting.
Regards,
tiggers.
That's so funny you paralleling The Smiths and Joy Division as those are my thoughts exactly. I saw them both live (The Smiths several times) and their performances were very intense and atmospheric. Definitely two of the best live bands I have ever witnessed.
As for Peter Hook I had heard all sorts of crazy things about him so when he spilled a pint over me in the Hacienda (in the early 80's when it was more of a venue than a club) I was expecting bad things. He apologised, bought me and my girlfriend a drink and sat chatting to us about all sorts for a couple of hours - totally different to what I was expecting.
Regards,
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Mentioning The Hacienda takes me back... its been converted into over priced 'apartments' now.
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04 January 2005, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by the moose
Yes, but The Damned were never exactly musical visionaries, were they? Perhaps it's just me, but they went on too long, and always seemed to be a bit of a comedy band, to be honest. Oh, and vastly undertalented, though the Black Album (the original double album) had some quality moments.
Comedy band, hell yes, they always admitted they were in it for the laugh and this stopped them being signed by any of the majors - there were big offers but it's not what the Damned were about - was this not the essence of Punk?
touche perhaps......
04 January 2005, 09:13 PM
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Apart from a few songs, I never really gave the Damned a second glance. The baby pig on "Strawberries" looked cute, though 
. I rediscovered the Clash, recently. I put "White Man" on really loud and was completely blown away. A truly emotional explosion went through me... and it wasn't nostalgia, because I wasn't much into the Clash at the time. I'm a big fan of Joy Division, too.
. I rediscovered the Clash, recently. I put "White Man" on really loud and was completely blown away. A truly emotional explosion went through me... and it wasn't nostalgia, because I wasn't much into the Clash at the time. I'm a big fan of Joy Division, too.
04 January 2005, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
Apart from a few songs, I never really gave the Damned a second glance. The baby pig on "Strawberries" looked cute, though . I rediscovered the Clash, recently. I put "White Man" on really loud and was completely blown away. A truly emotional explosion went through me... and it wasn't nostalgia, because I wasn't much into the Clash at the time. I'm a big fan of Joy Division, too.
. I rediscovered the Clash, recently. I put "White Man" on really loud and was completely blown away. A truly emotional explosion went through me... and it wasn't nostalgia, because I wasn't much into the Clash at the time. I'm a big fan of Joy Division, too. 
I liked the Damned for their 'couldn't give a toss' attitude - when I first heard Love Song I was blown away by the pure energy in the song. Did like the Clash at the same time - White Riot and Tommy Gun my favourites - the London Calling album was brill as well.
04 January 2005, 10:09 PM
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What's all this northern joy division nonsense. 
They limped along miles behind the pioneers that played the Roxy Club and other London venues.
Everyone knows that punk has London, Kings Road, Chelsea, Sarf England origins. That's why the Pistols, Clash, Damned, Stanglers, X Ray Specs, Sham 69, The Adverts, Adam and The Ants (and dare I say Crisis too
) were the true punk groups.
As for name dropping.... shameful....
Don't get me started on name dropping.
UB
They limped along miles behind the pioneers that played the Roxy Club and other London venues.Everyone knows that punk has London, Kings Road, Chelsea, Sarf England origins. That's why the Pistols, Clash, Damned, Stanglers, X Ray Specs, Sham 69, The Adverts, Adam and The Ants (and dare I say Crisis too
) were the true punk groups. As for name dropping.... shameful....
Don't get me started on name dropping.
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04 January 2005, 10:26 PM
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UB...Sham 69 r bollox.
"Unnerstan' him... an' he'll unnerstan' you....
for you are him... an' he is youuuuuuuuu!"
FPMSL with embarrassment.
I'm not saying that JD were punk, far from it. But they were the worthy successors, not "Hardcore Punk" bands that weren't worth the bog paper they were written on....
"Unnerstan' him... an' he'll unnerstan' you....
for you are him... an' he is youuuuuuuuu!"
FPMSL with embarrassment.
I'm not saying that JD were punk, far from it. But they were the worthy successors, not "Hardcore Punk" bands that weren't worth the bog paper they were written on....
04 January 2005, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
UB...Sham 69 r bollox.
We supported them on a number of occasions *and* they would travel to see us play. Clearly yours are the comments of one who never saw Sham in action. They were great!! PMSL laughing every time.
I'm not saying that JD were punk, far from it.
BTW who mentioned the Smiths <vomit>
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04 January 2005, 10:41 PM
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I'm just trolling you a bit, UB.... I couldn't get into Sham, because they were too overtly aiming themselves at the not-too-intelligent and disaffected "Working Class" market. (If you're cynical, like I am)
I can't deny that Pursey had a "Big Heart" though; I'm sure he believed and felt deeply everything he said or sang about. Unfortunately, although I'm an original punk, I'm an intellectual snob. Shoot me.
I can't deny that Pursey had a "Big Heart" though; I'm sure he believed and felt deeply everything he said or sang about. Unfortunately, although I'm an original punk, I'm an intellectual snob. Shoot me.
04 January 2005, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
smiths were okay ... ............................dont quite know how they fit in here ..
............................dont quite know how they fit in here .. Two of the best bands that ever existed IMO. Made all the better since reading this thread
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04 January 2005, 10:51 PM
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lol at the Sham69 defender....
my older brother was BIG into them. I have fond memories of trying to do my algebra homework and hearing "Anyway, Who Gives A Damn?" blasting throutgh the floorboards!!!
those were the days.
for some reason i also remeber a bit of dialogue on the album, along the lines of:
"Sod yer bleedin' job. i didn't want it anyway!!!"
PMSL.
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my older brother was BIG into them. I have fond memories of trying to do my algebra homework and hearing "Anyway, Who Gives A Damn?" blasting throutgh the floorboards!!!
those were the days.
for some reason i also remeber a bit of dialogue on the album, along the lines of:
"Sod yer bleedin' job. i didn't want it anyway!!!"
PMSL.
BB
04 January 2005, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
I'm just trolling you a bit, UB.... I couldn't get into Sham, because they were too overtly aiming themselves at the not-too-intelligent and disaffected "Working Class" market. (If you're cynical, like I am)
I can't deny that Pursey had a "Big Heart" though; I'm sure he believed and felt deeply everything he said or sang about. Unfortunately, although I'm an original punk, I'm an intellectual snob. Shoot me.
I can't deny that Pursey had a "Big Heart" though; I'm sure he believed and felt deeply everything he said or sang about. Unfortunately, although I'm an original punk, I'm an intellectual snob. Shoot me.
I don't think Sham 69 'aiming themselves at' anything. They were what they were. I guess if your not from 'round these parts' you might not get it.
but they were just singing what they knew, same as blues singers do, but with a twist of 'skiffle'. In fact punk was just latter day skiffle IMO - a good old knees up, nothing more - but with a bit of a political edge - (sign of the times.)UB
04 January 2005, 11:08 PM
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The Pistols were "from around those parts", weren't they? But they challenged their audience's thinking (in some songs) and advocated individuality, rather than fostering a "Sticking Together" or "Brotherhood" or , dare I say it, "Gang" mentality like Sham 69 did. Their philosophies were fundamentally different.
04 January 2005, 11:13 PM
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rob, does this ring a bell:
Running for the bus in my flash blue suit
Someone shouts out poof
So I put in the boot
I don't want to wear it
It's my boss that tells me to
So when you laugh at me
You only laugh at you
LMFAO. BB
not many "sample" downloads on the net ...
i'll keep trying..
to keep on topic heres an interesting link:-
http://www.platinum-needles.co.uk/home.htm
Running for the bus in my flash blue suit
Someone shouts out poof
So I put in the boot
I don't want to wear it
It's my boss that tells me to
So when you laugh at me
You only laugh at you
LMFAO. BB
not many "sample"
downloads on the net ...i'll keep trying..
to keep on topic heres an interesting link:-
http://www.platinum-needles.co.uk/home.htm
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
The Pistols were "from around those parts", weren't they? But they challenged their audience's thinking (in some songs) and advocated individuality, rather than fostering a "Sticking Together" or "Brotherhood" or , dare I say it, "Gang" mentality like Sham 69 did. Their philosophies were fundamentally different.
04 January 2005, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by beemerboy
Running for the bus in my flash blue suit
Someone shouts out poof
So I put in the boot
I don't want to wear it
It's my boss that tells me to
So when you laugh at me
You only laugh at you ]
Someone shouts out poof
So I put in the boot
I don't want to wear it
It's my boss that tells me to
So when you laugh at me
You only laugh at you ]
.... well not really. Funny though...UB
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Originally Posted by GC8
Joy Division/New Order - The Smiths - Stone Roses...... Speaking of 'trances' have you seen the clip of Joy Division performing 'Transmission' on television where Ian Curtis seemd to completely flip? Apparently he got completely smashed on Special Brew before he went on.
Mentioning The Hacienda takes me back... its been converted into over priced 'apartments' now.
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Mentioning The Hacienda takes me back... its been converted into over priced 'apartments' now.
Simon
They were just so good, the atmosphere (no pun intended ) was very special.I have seen the Hacienda apartments - such a shame. I used to be a regular there when it was a gig venue in the early 80's and I was never overly happy with it becoming a nightclub, but knocking it down and buliding apartments - that's virtually sacrilege
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good bands but not punk
05 January 2005, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
What's all this northern joy division nonsense. They limped along miles behind the pioneers that played the Roxy Club and other London venues.
Everyone knows that punk has London, Kings Road, Chelsea, Sarf England origins. That's why the Pistols, Clash, Damned, Stanglers, X Ray Specs, Sham 69, The Adverts, Adam and The Ants (and dare I say Crisis too ) were the true punk groups.
As for name dropping.... shameful....
Don't get me started on name dropping.
UB
They limped along miles behind the pioneers that played the Roxy Club and other London venues.Everyone knows that punk has London, Kings Road, Chelsea, Sarf England origins. That's why the Pistols, Clash, Damned, Stanglers, X Ray Specs, Sham 69, The Adverts, Adam and The Ants (and dare I say Crisis too
) were the true punk groups. As for name dropping.... shameful....
Don't get me started on name dropping.
UB
And then we get onto Sham 69 ..... Jimmy Pursey meant well, I'm sure, but if he's not the thickest man who ever walked the earth I'm astonished.
05 January 2005, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by the moose
And then we get onto Sham 69 ..... Jimmy Pursey meant well, I'm sure, but if he's not the thickest man who ever walked the earth I'm astonished.
He makes me embarrassed just to listen to him.