Ralf

If you fancy a left hooker, Sir only has to choose: BMW iX galore!

astraboy

I'll never buy anything other than a RWD car these days.
4wd may be "Better" but I am a drifter and I know whats gonna give me the most smiles on my journey
astraboy.

Senior_AP

4WD is not better.

astraboy

Better acceleration,
better grip,
better roadholding,
better for covering point to point distances.
RWD is more fun though
astraboy.

Senior_AP

Better acceleration?? Err.....no.

Better grip?? Yes - depending on conditions.

Point- to point - definately - nothing better though FWD is also great for bombing around in.

astraboy

FWD? Now I know you're taking the ****.
I agree with you totally though, RWD rocks. I'll never buy a F or AWD car unless i have no choice at all, but you cant deny that it is lacking in certain qualities when you compare it to AWD. It just depends whether you are looking to "Have him in the twisties" or not care about the other drivers progess cos you are too busy leaping from apex to apex on full opposite lock.
Not that I do that of course, its illegal!
astraboy.

Senior_AP

FWD is easy and you can bomb around in relative safety.

4WD is probably the best overall and all round tbh. There's nothing it can't do.

blot

FWD can be fun though

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5.../cornering.jpg

4WD is lovely and safe and warm and cuddly

RWD rocks

screechmr2

4wd - nothing it can't do? except provide more entertainment than rwd

fwd - sissy
4wd - safer than sissy
rwd - daredevil

Gear Head

iTrader: (2)

Anyone think Senior AP is trying on his 'Troll' outfit this evening?? Senoir AP, ever seen an 800bhp rwd supra against an 800bhp skyline at a drag strip. Supra spends most of the first 3 gears spinning its' little boots, where as mr skyline hooks up everytime.
So, 4wd IS better for acceleration. Rwd shines on a track only in the hands of a talented driver, who is able to balance the car with the throttle.

Dracoro

So why don't dragsters, the FASTEST accelarating things out theree, have 4wd? They use RWD.

Gear Head

iTrader: (2)

Because they are built for one purpose. Thats why they have huge sticky tyres at the rear, and bicycle wheels at the front. Plus, Senior AP was talking about road cars, as was I. Also, not much come back for a dragster when the back end goes!

Jiggerypokery

I have RWD, FWD and 4WD at the moment. I feel more comfortable driving the 4WD.

Here's someone who has been bitten by RWD:
http://lancerregister.com/showthread...threadid=65971

Dracoro

Sounds more like he's been bitten by his lack of driving skills. What happens when he crashes his Evo and then no longer has 'faith' in 4WD, will he then give up driving. Cars don't crash on their own account.

I quote So nothing to do with too much throttle while steering. Cars don't oversteer for no reason. If it wasn't his fault e.g. faulty car, diesel on the road etc. then having a 4WD would have hardly made a difference, after all once grip is lost, grip is lost.

Fair enough if you've no the interest in improving your skills or don't want the extra hassle/effort/challeng that RWD requires but SAY SO. don't try to dress it up any other way. I completely understand why some people thing RWD is not for them & fair enough but lets cut the bullsh1t about them being unsafe or dangerous (or as the evo guy says 'freakish behaviour'.

SteA

Very true. On the SXOC (200 sx club) loads of people "get bitten" by RWD, strangely, the majority of these are relatively inexperienced and driving cars with little more than standard power these are the same people who think our cars are lethal in the wet. Opposed to that are lots of people (me included) with more than 300 bhp going through the rear wheels, with no traction or stability control, and who dont have the same problems with "lethal RWD's" And if I turn my boost down so I'm only running about 250 bhp the car feels like a soft pussycat..........

Oh, and by no means am I a good driver, just took my time getting to know my car and respect the laws of physics..........

screechmr2

800bhp skylines and supras aren't exactly road cars either - they normally get towed to these events and get rebuilt constantly, so that argument falls through as well.

larks

fwd is great for getting the shopping lol had a 170bhp fiesta rst quick when moving but what a hassle off the line thought i would of learnt but no moved on to a 210bhp escort s2 rst and off the line would get beaten by cars with half the power untill it started to grip in 2nd in dry in the wet you might as well of pushed it!!!!! finally i saw the light and bought an e30 325i sport and it was the muts nuts in the dry the grip was fantastic and the wet was just a laugh it would hang the rear out all day.The scooby though its fantastic wet dry dont matter in all
fwd sorry rubbish
rwd more fun then 4wd scary on limit in wet
4wd all round every day the winner but less fun

and e30 m3 4wd no such thing been said only one was 325ix