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26 January 2005, 09:15 PM
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Can see your point. Family comes first. Just sold my scooby for the same reason, my family comes first and we need the money for other things currently.
Never been in this type of situation, so I'm unsure what my reaction would be, but can't really blame you for how you reacted. Only consideration would be if you had been caught by Police would they have believed you ? Or would they have just given you a ticket. Now I appreciate receiving a ticket is preferrable to one's family being threatened, but would still be a bitter pill to swallow.
Would defintely have reported it to the police though either way.
Any chance the garage has CC TV and might have a record of the other vehicle reg plate ?
Could maybe have asked the cashier to call police etc. or note reg etc as a back up plan ?
As I say, can't say for certain what I would do as never been there....and hope it never happens either.
29 January 2005, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Pants!
Thats not the point at all and a stupid attitude to have.
Take steps to avoid the situation yes. However the police can do a lot, it is so annoying that people always write off the police as an option because they think there is nothing they can do. They can only help you if you report a problem. One of the biggest struggles the police have is getting people to call in with their problems.
Okay, you call the police with the index number, if they have nicked the car or have false plates, when you report it in an observation request will go out to all the police cars in that area, if they do get stopped and through a vehicle check they found out it was nicked or what ecer. They would be arrested.
You assume they have nicked the car, maybe they have'nt? What if they run a check on the vehicle and find out the owner is known by the police for nicking cars? They will then be tied to the incident number you will be given, if a few days later your car gets nicked, they know where their first port of call will be to find out where he was on the night in question etc etc....
There are so many scenarios, you can not just brush off calling the police with a statement like that!
Take steps to avoid the situation yes. However the police can do a lot, it is so annoying that people always write off the police as an option because they think there is nothing they can do. They can only help you if you report a problem. One of the biggest struggles the police have is getting people to call in with their problems.
Okay, you call the police with the index number, if they have nicked the car or have false plates, when you report it in an observation request will go out to all the police cars in that area, if they do get stopped and through a vehicle check they found out it was nicked or what ecer. They would be arrested.
You assume they have nicked the car, maybe they have'nt? What if they run a check on the vehicle and find out the owner is known by the police for nicking cars? They will then be tied to the incident number you will be given, if a few days later your car gets nicked, they know where their first port of call will be to find out where he was on the night in question etc etc....
There are so many scenarios, you can not just brush off calling the police with a statement like that!
I was held up at gun-point by car-jackers in a main road in the city centre. In fact it was on the same road as the main police station. Anyway to cut a long story short I thankfully managed to escape. After losing the car-jackers in a chase I went directly to the police station. I told them what happened and was told 'we are rather busy tonight'. Somebody took a statement (after a while).
CID started investigating 3 days later and put out the details in the media etc. Informed me that the car the gang used was taken at gun-point in broad-daylight the day before and they gave the guy a real hiding. I asked what they were going to do and what they have done. 'Not much we can do' was the response. 'They will be driving on false plates, our cars wont give chase if they fail to stop and our armed response unit is xx miles away'. 'The only real chance of catching them is if they dump the car and leave forensic evidence behind'.
That sadly is the state of the police and their ability to solve real crime.
The police wont engage in high speed/dangerous pursuits and sadly this is why the criminals target us performance car drivers.
I can say that with hindsight, that the crime was not worth reporting.
Bob
29 January 2005, 02:55 PM
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Its sad but the police are a useless bunch of tossers anyway. When you need them they are never there. Car crime to Police does not seem very important to them. They prefer the easy life of sitting outside nightclubs picking on drunks late at night. And hiding in car and vans catching speeding motorists. Because of course we all know "SPEED KILLS". But car jackers wielding guns pose no high priority threat. It makes me fuxxing laugh.
31 January 2005, 05:16 PM
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So take Bob's experience, which is very scary, but I might personally live with the small risk of something like this happening.
Now imagine the same scenario with your wife/girlfriend at the wheel, and your 2 year old son/daughter strapped in the back. Do you think these people give a **** about hurting your family? That's why I traded the car.
Now imagine the same scenario with your wife/girlfriend at the wheel, and your 2 year old son/daughter strapped in the back. Do you think these people give a **** about hurting your family? That's why I traded the car.
26 February 2005, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by theotherphil
I'd be a little careful in just handing over a car to a crim on the off chance that you will get an insurance pay out. As far as I am aware, handing your keys and vehicle to a crim (even under threat of violence) will invalidate your insurance. Please correct me if I am wrong!
i work in insurance and this is bollox.
if their is threat, violence or deceit used in obtaining a car and/or its keys the insurance have to pay out.
2 cases
1) a mate had his clio stolen on a test drive. they went to swap passenger to driver seats and crim locked doors and drove off. insurance paid out on deceit.
2) bloke with an m3 goes into kwik fit for a tyre, kwik fit say no tyre in stock. he says ok ill go elsewhere. gets in car, bloke in kwik fit overalls knocks on window says " sorry mate, we do have one after all, let me pull the car into the bay" gets in drives off. insurance paid out on deceit.
27 February 2005, 12:11 AM
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Just do a u-turn if you think your getting followed, then another, you'll know quickly what to do, go fast and avoid the issue.
If you loose the people following you, why sell the car? Everyone up my street know what i drive, so do their friends and their friends also.......
Who ever said "get the number plate" spot on.....
Keep a pen in the car, or, use the mobile phone, even if we have no credit, 999.....
I have a hood, i've even been accused of being a thug, by my mum........
We are everywhere, we are the general public.
Don't make excuses for selling the car. 40,000 other SN users haven't sold out yet.
If your unlucky enough to get it nicked then so-be-it.
And for the car theifs who use this site like a reference book. You might just be the unlucky fukca who gets on the news tonight......
HEADLINE...... "car thief gets his just rewards"
SOME OF US DO FIGHT BACK!
If you loose the people following you, why sell the car? Everyone up my street know what i drive, so do their friends and their friends also.......
Who ever said "get the number plate" spot on.....
Keep a pen in the car, or, use the mobile phone, even if we have no credit, 999.....
I have a hood, i've even been accused of being a thug, by my mum........
We are everywhere, we are the general public.
Don't make excuses for selling the car. 40,000 other SN users haven't sold out yet.
If your unlucky enough to get it nicked then so-be-it.
And for the car theifs who use this site like a reference book. You might just be the unlucky fukca who gets on the news tonight......
HEADLINE...... "car thief gets his just rewards"
SOME OF US DO FIGHT BACK!
27 February 2005, 12:32 AM
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Whatever... ...means that maybe you didn't read the rest of the thread? And also that I have consumed 1 1/2 bottles of wine this evening!
If you read back in the thread then you will see that quite a few people did agree with you - and quite a few didn't.
Your comment implied that I was paranoid about the car itself - no so, I couldn't (didn't) give a toss about the car, and certainly wasn't that worried about having it stolen as such - that's what insurance is for.
What I do (did) give a toss about (for example) is someone dragging my wife out of the car at a set of lights and driving off with it with my son in the back - low risk, yes, I agree - but substantially greater risk in a Scoob that many other cars. Were it only my own safety that were the issue, I would still own it.
Oh, and I too own a hooded jacket (although, given my age, I look like a total tw@t wearing it, so I don't).
Also (but not really related to the original thread), just take a look at the ridiculous lengths people go to in order to try to stop these cars being stolen...Blackjax, Disclok, Tracker, house/garage alarms, locking poles in driveways, CCTV systems, hiding the keys (bad idea IMHO), etc. etc. etc. (see here: http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=406435 for examples). Just because they own an reasonably quick car? Whilst they are (maybe) wise to do this, don't you think it's a crazy situation?.
If you read back in the thread then you will see that quite a few people did agree with you - and quite a few didn't.
Your comment implied that I was paranoid about the car itself - no so, I couldn't (didn't) give a toss about the car, and certainly wasn't that worried about having it stolen as such - that's what insurance is for.
What I do (did) give a toss about (for example) is someone dragging my wife out of the car at a set of lights and driving off with it with my son in the back - low risk, yes, I agree - but substantially greater risk in a Scoob that many other cars. Were it only my own safety that were the issue, I would still own it.
Oh, and I too own a hooded jacket (although, given my age, I look like a total tw@t wearing it, so I don't).
Also (but not really related to the original thread), just take a look at the ridiculous lengths people go to in order to try to stop these cars being stolen...Blackjax, Disclok, Tracker, house/garage alarms, locking poles in driveways, CCTV systems, hiding the keys (bad idea IMHO), etc. etc. etc. (see here: http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=406435 for examples). Just because they own an reasonably quick car? Whilst they are (maybe) wise to do this, don't you think it's a crazy situation?.
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