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Originally Posted by MJW
The people in Baghdad were not in a war zone originally : Baghdad was their home before it became a war zone. What should the population of Baghdad have done ? Just moved out while the US flattened it and then moved back to live on the rubble-littered streets with no electricity, gas or water ?
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Hmmm I think if you compared body counts (not that the Coalition are keeping tally of 'enemy' civilian deaths, heaven forbid) I'm pretty sure I know who'd be out in front ..
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Yes it would be a hell of a lot cheaper. But then how would you justify the immense sums of money dispensed to US weapons contractors if you're not going to use expensive weapons ?
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And if their methods are acceptable, why not simply load a few 737s up at Baghdad airport with Iraqi civilians and fly them into Al Qaeda and Iraqi military positions? Hell, it would be a lot cheaper than all the ordinance that the US has expended!!!
- Americans aren't prepared to kill themselves in the process of killing others.
- In terms of the cost/damage ratio I doubt they'd be cheaper.
- Even to the gullible they'd have no chance of claiming they actually gave a crap about civilian casualties.
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Originally Posted by Geezer
Indeed it wasn't but then again neither was Berlin before 1939. The population of Berlin was attacked as a by product of the war, they were not the target (well, not up until the spring of 1945). New York is not in a war zone.
Who's comparing body counts? Not me, never mentioned it. I am talking about intent to harm innocents.
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Guys. WTC wasn't a military target, it was a political one. It was to strike at the symbol of American trade supremacy. For shock value, for what terrorism is, it was a masterstroke. (Don't EVER think that means I agree with it in any way).
Overall, I agree with this.
Further, If the terrorists had wanted to take the maximum number of lives, after all of the preparation they had clearly done, wouldn't they have waited for at least the buildings to have significant numbers of people in them? Remember it was still early morning.
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The idea that a terrorist organisation controlled by a single head (Bin Ladin) who lives in a cave and has sleeper cells all over the word simply does not exsist.
I have no remose for dead American soldiers, I wish them the death of a dog.
I have no remose for dead American soldiers, I wish them the death of a dog.
The first point above must simply be plain ignorance if you really think its not true
The second point shows what a sick person you are.
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No doubt that those that flew the planes into the WTC knew civilians would be killed but do you really believe they targetted those buildings because they could maximise civilian deaths? That's what Blair and Bush would like you to believe.
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Originally Posted by **************
As for your comments, you do nothing but spout anti west opinions oh here and if you don't want to live the way we live here go and live somewhere that you do agree with, perhaps Iraq or Afghanistan. The above statement by you I find incredible beyond belief.
Look, if you want to believe a crock, that's up to you. As for living in Afghanistan or Iraq, you obviously can't see the irony of your statement.
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Originally Posted by gsm1
That's an anti-west comment? You find it incredible because of what?
Look, if you want to believe a crock, that's up to you. As for living in Afghanistan or Iraq, you obviously can't see the irony of your statement.
Look, if you want to believe a crock, that's up to you. As for living in Afghanistan or Iraq, you obviously can't see the irony of your statement.
You may not be anti-west, but it's certainly how your posts come across sometimes or in the least very anti-American. Not trying to wind you up, just pointing out that I too can see how B2Z arrives at that conclusion.
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Originally Posted by tiggers
gsm1,
You may not be anti-west, but it's certainly how your posts come across sometimes or in the least very anti-American. Not trying to wind you up, just pointing out that I too can see how B2Z arrives at that conclusion.
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You may not be anti-west, but it's certainly how your posts come across sometimes or in the least very anti-American. Not trying to wind you up, just pointing out that I too can see how B2Z arrives at that conclusion.
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Originally Posted by Angry
Al Qaeda is as real as Father Christmas, didnt anyone see The Power of Nightmares on BBC2?
The same was made of the Soviet block countries in the 60's and 70's. There wasn't nearly as greater threat to western civilisation as they made out.
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Originally Posted by gsm1
If someone has a problem with my argument then by all means counter it but making remarks about me doesn't cut it. And if people choose to call me anti-west, or whatever else, they'd better back it up.
Anyway try being a little less hostile in your posts - I was simply pointing out that that is how you come across sometimes (in my opinion) rather than saying that is how you are. It's not making remarks about you , it was simply explaining that B2Z is not the only one who pulls that opinion out of some of your posts.
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Can we keep it civil and impersonal please, I don't want this thread going the same way as the Guantanamo one. Please respect others' rights to have an opinion whether you agree with it or not.
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Originally Posted by tiggers
Or what?
Anyway try being a little less hostile in your posts - I was simply pointing out that that is how you come across sometimes (in my opinion) rather than saying that is how you are. It's not making remarks about you , it was simply explaining that B2Z is not the only one who pulls that opinion out of some of your posts.
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Anyway try being a little less hostile in your posts - I was simply pointing out that that is how you come across sometimes (in my opinion) rather than saying that is how you are. It's not making remarks about you , it was simply explaining that B2Z is not the only one who pulls that opinion out of some of your posts.
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Originally Posted by gsm1
That was directed at B2Z, not you. And that wasn't a threat, I was trying to say that if anyone wants to accuse me of something then they should back it up. I'm sick and tired of people who rather than argue a point find it easier to label people lefties, liberals, lentil eaters..tree huggers and the rest of it. I don't deny some of my posts in the past may have appeared 'hostile' but considering the content of other posters it was probably valid. I'm also not a great user of emoticons so it may appear that way.
FWIW I agree with the labelling point - after all I am told on here often enough how I try and take the moral high ground whatever that may mean in the context of some of my posts.
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