weapon69

LOL Wow Phil, i didn't realise you knew B2Z

For us its about 3 times a year

xkellyx

hey leave essex alone lol

ProperCharlie

Why do you think wife swapping was invented?

Answers on the back of a colour photograph.

babber

I think she lives in Patchway, Bristol!! At the moment, I think I'm seeing her

I know what your saying mate, but probably the women I've seen over the last few months / years have never really turned me down. And this is even when I've arrived at their house 12:30 am (pissed out my face, when I should have been around there at 9 PM) It's about the whole thing....

Are you taking interest in them?

Do you make them feel good?

Do you compliment them?

Do you ask them about their day?

Do you cuddle them, and not just when you want / require sex? (most women do notice and look out for this)

Do you make the dinner then wash up?

Do you help around the house?

Do you ask them what they like in bed? (remember all women are different, so what worked for one won't (or rarely won't) work for another)

Do you act selfishly when it comes to sex?

Do you try and go further than you know they want to?

I'm lucky as I got my own house, and have been looking after myself for 3 years. When (for example) the women I'm seeing, sees me struggling to Iron a shirt, and says "it's ok love, I'll do that for you". I'll say "no, it's ok chick, I'm fine, do you want another cup of tea / drink? I got to be able to do this eventually, so it's all down to practise"

It's the simple things that matter, as far as women are concerned

I'm sure I'll be shot down in flames, but there we go....

Thanks Phill

Brendan Hughes

Well, one of them appeared to be successful

babber

Lol, I don't know him, but men are men. I'm not saying that I don't like playing Halo 2 online with my mates, but there's a time and a place Xbox / Internet isn't more important than my sex life

I was talking to a women (who happened to be my Ex wifes mate) I know a few months ago, and obviously she had her beer googles on....

She told me her husband constantly surfs the internet for ****, and won't attempt sex until she got stockings / boots and fishnets on. I personally like stockings and suspenders myself, but I don't think I'd spend all evening surfing for ****, drinking beer ignoring the said women.....Then get stroppy at the end of the night, as she won't put her stocking / boots, etc on for sex..... It was her that told me she sexually frustrated, but she not giving in to his desires (as he's being a little selfish???)

If he did have a problem, and found it hard to get an erection without looking at ****, or getting her to dress up, then I reckon he should get himself up the doctors???

I don't know anything about relastionships, I'm just discussing what works for me, and what doesn't seem to work for others.

As I say, if your not happy about it, then do something!!!! Get them to read this thread when you get in this evening. It will go one way or the other but would give the perfect platform for an open and honest discussion

Thanks Phill

Drunken Bungle Whore

Someone once told me that a really good sex life takes up less than 1/10th of your life whereas a bad sex life takes up all of it.

I guess I'm average - 37, married, together 2 1/2 years at it a couple of times a week - sometimes more, sometimes less. What I think is missing from a lot of relationships that struggle due to 'not enough sex' is the focus. Sex happens and it's bloody good fun when it does (if a little exhausting at times!) But if it happens to be missing for a while because we're both busy, or really stressed, then it's not the end of the world.

Within a relationship the question is not whether you actually do or don't have sex, but whether you do or don't want to have it - if the desire has gone then there's more wrong with your relationship than a lack of sex - it's just that that's the easiest thing to blame.

I love my hubby to bits and want to be with him - whether or not we're at it like bunnies!

babber

I know this thread is going to be muppetised, but seriously..... Do you think this is the way to resolve a poor sex life with your partner, that is already in trouble???

I don't think so!! There was a documentory about this on TV the other night, and it doesn't work long term in most cases. Just like threesomes and foursomes. I tried it after a women I was seeing suggested it, and although we both thought it was great at the time and didn't see anything wrong with it, they eventually get the hump and it will kill that relastionship.

Women and men have completely different views on wife swapping / threesomes, and I seriously suggest not trying it

Phill

TelBoy

Amen.

babber

Always takes a women to summerise the facts. What is written above make perfect sense, so read this thread again, and listen to what she's saying!!

It's up to you guys to make a difference, your the ones moaning, so do something about it

Phill

babber

Does GF know about "close friend" and vice versa?

Phill

babber

PS Oh and try and make them laugh now and again

Flatcapdriver

38, married with no intention of having kids resulting in a root averaging 2-3 times per week - blob week excepted. You need to get it together more often than once a fortnight for a successful marriage to work - you need to make time for each other.

I reckon that blokes require sex more often than women and once you have kids your wife will transfer the majority of her attention and emotions on the child, leaving you out in the cold as far as a jump is concerned so get her in training now. And yourself for that matter.

Bartop

The trouble is sex for men is 90% physical and 10% emotional and for women it's 90% emotional and 10% physical it seems to me.

The best tip I ever heard was in response to the question of 'how long foreplay should last ?'. For men I would guess on the whole it's half hour at a push, for women it starts as soon as you've finished making love. ie cuddling / talking / taking an interest as mentioned above - all in lead up for the next time

As to how many times a week ? The answer is as many times as you both feel you want to..if this is different you need to talk and understand why..

weapon69

LOL Yeah once to make a baby in February, next in November to try and encourage said baby to make an appearance and once at Xmas I have said he can go elsewhere for his jollies but he's too lazy

sti-04!!

Dont want it, dont need it, dont like it, havent tried it, ....................................... AVE IT

babber

Feb agreed, and November agreed as the curries / even cod liver oil don't work.....

Problem I see here with you though love is, what about all the new Xbox games releases for Xmas... You seriously don't think he'll be able to leave them alone do you, lol?

Phill

Flatcapdriver

I saw a survey the other week that suggested that British women get more foreplay than any other nation, bar Iceland and that although we get less sex than the French it tends to last longer and involves more sex toys.

pbee

been together 8 years Married for 3 1/2 of those.

Like rabbits at the beggining and up and down ever since, depending on circumstances. Im away from home a bit with works which i think helps a bit.

We have a 2 year old son which in the beggining did kybosh everything, we had just got things back on track and are now expecting the 2nd imminently. There is something about mummies stilletos round daddies ears with a white bum shining in the moonlight you dont want your kids to see that is for sure.

I do agree that men and women peak at different times.

Men are most physically active before 20 but do not appreicte fully until 30. Women do not appreciate under 20 (i think a vast majority actually dislike sex). and are not fully active until over 30.

So i Have a theory, young lads get to stiff older women, when you are approaching 40 it is then appropiriate to stiff under 20's to teach them how to appreciate sex. Thats my plan and im sticking to it.

oh as for numbers anything between 10-12 times a week and 0 for a month.

babber

I like to spend time over foreplay / afterplay with a women, although I do really enjoy it and think it's just as good as the mainplay. I really don't think many women can achieve sexual satifaction quickly without foreplay, although the Rampant Rabbit 2 claims are a little worrying for us men Although personally I'm not bothered by it....Imagine being able to make 90 % of the population achieve what they set out to achieve, all within 30 seconds

This thread is sad, but funny

Phill

babber

Lol, good reply

I would strongly recommend seeking a women older or around your age, if you want a satisfying sex life!! If you want eye candy and a lot of hassle / moaning then go for a younger model. I got to be honest, this is normally correct IMHO however, I've gone out with a 20 year old, that certainly knew what she was doing. Generally I think younger women are lazier and expect more, whereas older women know their bodies and don't expect the world on the first few dates..... No sure this makes sense really

Phill

Flatcapdriver

I dunno, there are limits to foreplay and I get bored after about 20 minutes and have to move on from the supporting fight to the main bout - that's what bed wrestling is about anyway.

How do you make those rolleyes emoticons?

Bartop

Lol - so true.

I remember when my kids were that age - me and the wife had to resort to using 'Sex Videos' to keep us going.

ie. stick the kids in front of postman pat for half an hour while we nipped upstairs

babber

Another good reply, but rather selfish??? You admit to getting bored??? I really hope your misses don't read this mate {} without the {} brackets

Even if you think it, you don't always say it. A friend of mine couldn't understand why his misses got stroppy when he complained it smells like a fish market, so he didn't want to go down there. Personally I would have dragged her off to the shower instead of mentioning the un-mentionable spruced it up, then got on with the task in hand

This is so difficult writting this bearing in mind children might actually be reading this.....

Thanks Phill

Flatcapdriver

Selfish? Not really as I reckon 20 minutes or so is more than most and it seems to me that sex these days is all about making sure that women have a good time - what happened to the occasional quicky?

babber

Exactly, I found Lion King to be a good passion starter or at least could have been. You don't always need to disappear upstairs, a couple of seconds / minutes in the kitchen / porch doing whatever, can all be part of a days worth of foreplay that peaks in the evening when the ankle biters are in bed

A couple of quick liasons through-out the day, while Lion King / Toy story is pumping out on the 5.1 system can be a great way of reviving a poor sex life. There lots of things you can do, you just got to think about it and understand what it is that will excite her. Once there's excitement, then your half way there

Phill

babber

Not having a go here, but really think about what your saying..... Is 20 mins enough for your women?? And you get bored

Be good to get a few womens views on this, but surely you need to spend as much time as required different amount of time for different women.

Ofcourse a quickie is good as well But there's a good chance you'll get there in 5 strokes and it'll take her 10 strokes, lol

Phill

Daz34

Not in an actual relationship but I have what I believe is known as a **** buddy who I see a couple of times a week. Could be more, but I don't want her getting the wrong idea.

Darren

Bartop

I think there's another fallacy here - sure it's great to 'get there' together but 99/100 it ain't gonna happen. Just enjoy your own and make sure your partner enjoys theirs too.
I'd also be interested to hear from some women but I'm led to believe that 'getting there' is not as important for women as it is for men and a lot of the pleasure is in the journey itself..

Jeez it's hard keeping this thread child friendly

Drunken Bungle Whore

No point starting the journey unless you plan to arrive....

And here's another interesting question. Why do partners in long term relationships get upset if the other on 'enjoys themselves' alone on occasion? I really do fail to see what all the fuss and upset is about.