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Apart from the road-safety / pedestrian safety issue, I think anyone breaking the speed limit in Allerton Bywater is asking for trouble!
Do you fancy hurtling your car into one of the many 6-foot wide craters that populate the roads around the area??? The road surface conditions around there are amongst the worst I've ever seen!
Do you fancy hurtling your car into one of the many 6-foot wide craters that populate the roads around the area??? The road surface conditions around there are amongst the worst I've ever seen!
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Have I missed something?
This has nothing to do with being a hypocrit or with the speed we've either done or will do.. CF's point is that Bubba shouldn't be complaining about some prat doing 70 up his street, but that he should have been standing by watching or with his child as he or she played outside his house and that any harm would have been his or the childs fault.
And some of you are agreeing?
So now we have to completely supervise all children wanting to play in the street or keep them in because you or some other to55er can't keep their speed down in a 30?
If it had been a motorway, then I'd tend to agree.. but a residential street? With kids on? You may as well blame the old lady for getting mugged because she had the audacity to go to the post office to get her pension... she should have had someone with her... silly cow.
This has nothing to do with being a hypocrit or with the speed we've either done or will do.. CF's point is that Bubba shouldn't be complaining about some prat doing 70 up his street, but that he should have been standing by watching or with his child as he or she played outside his house and that any harm would have been his or the childs fault.
And some of you are agreeing?
So now we have to completely supervise all children wanting to play in the street or keep them in because you or some other to55er can't keep their speed down in a 30?
If it had been a motorway, then I'd tend to agree.. but a residential street? With kids on? You may as well blame the old lady for getting mugged because she had the audacity to go to the post office to get her pension... she should have had someone with her... silly cow.
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So now we have to completely supervise all children wanting to play in the street or keep them in because you or some other to55er can't keep their speed down in a 30?
it was your decision to have your kids,so don't complain about having to supervise them
i know CF very well and i can assure you he doesn't want to hurt anyones kids,but your kids are your responsibility not anyone who might be driving by your houses.
it was your decision to have your kids,so don't complain about having to supervise them
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i know CF very well and i can assure you he doesn't want to hurt anyones kids,but your kids are your responsibility not anyone who might be driving by your houses.
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Originally Posted by dangerous dave
So now we have to completely supervise all children wanting to play in the street or keep them in because you or some other to55er can't keep their speed down in a 30?
it was your decision to have your kids,so don't complain about having to supervise them
i know CF very well and i can assure you he doesn't want to hurt anyones kids,but your kids are your responsibility not anyone who might be driving by your houses.
it was your decision to have your kids,so don't complain about having to supervise them
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i know CF very well and i can assure you he doesn't want to hurt anyones kids,but your kids are your responsibility not anyone who might be driving by your houses.
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Speed limits are there for a reason! I am not going to preach about speed limits but common sense should come into it and a few of you don't seem to have that
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Residential areas... where people live! Not where you can drive your car at its limit! How can chemicallyfree have a point? We're not talking about five or ten miles per hour over the speed limit, here. And to combat the "How do you know how fast he was going" argument, I could hear him for a while before I saw him.... my road is fairly straight and I heard his dump valve go off just after the only slight bend in it, approximately 250-300 yards before my house. He was at the very top of second when I heard him, and he dumped again just after my house where I was washing my car... I know that the top of third is near eighty miles per hour in a UK scoob. Defend him, you fúcking ****heads, and I'll spit in your faces.
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Originally Posted by dangerous dave
it was your decision to have your kids,so don't complain about having to supervise them
i know CF very well and i can assure you he doesn't want to hurt anyones kids,but your kids are your responsibility not anyone who might be driving by your houses.
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i know CF very well and i can assure you he doesn't want to hurt anyones kids,but your kids are your responsibility not anyone who might be driving by your houses.
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Keeping an eye on the kid doesn't even come into it - doing 70mph down a residential street with a 30 limit is
a) Highly illegal,
b) Extremely dangerous and
c) ******* stupid
a) Highly illegal,
b) Extremely dangerous and
c) ******* stupid
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Originally Posted by dangerous dave
...it was your decision to have your kids,so don't complain about having to supervise them
i know CF very well and i can assure you he doesn't want to hurt anyones kids,but your kids are your responsibility not anyone who might be driving by your houses.
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i know CF very well and i can assure you he doesn't want to hurt anyones kids,but your kids are your responsibility not anyone who might be driving by your houses.
- The above statement applies even if it is illegal and morally wrong to do 70 in a residential area?
- What's your stance on the actions of the driver?
- What about the fact that it could have been a pregnant lady crossing the road with a child in her hand? Anyone could get killed in that situation..
- You neatly skipped the old lady analogy..
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
Dave, I had my suspicions before about the state of your sanity, but this confirms them all. ******* speechless.
i couldn't give a flying F8ck what you think Bubba...................i'm entitled to my opinion whether you agree with it or not
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Originally Posted by Alan C
Answer the following..
- The above statement applies even if it is illegal and morally wrong to do 70 in a residential area?
- What's your stance on the actions of the driver?
- What about the fact that it could have been a pregnant lady crossing the road with a child in her hand? Anyone could get killed in that situation..
- You neatly skipped the old lady analogy..
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Originally Posted by dangerous dave
i couldn't give a flying F8ck what you think Bubba........![Hjtwofinger](images/smilies/hjtwofinger.gif)
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anyone who drives at those speeds in town is a ******
anyone who thinks its acceptable to do so is also a ******
if your too chav to afford a track day then dont own the car
anyone who thinks its acceptable to do so is also a ******
if your too chav to afford a track day then dont own the car
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Originally Posted by Peanuts
anyone who drives at those speeds in town is a ******
anyone who thinks its acceptable to do so is also a ******
if your too chav to afford a track day then dont own the car
anyone who thinks its acceptable to do so is also a ******
if your too chav to afford a track day then dont own the car
so you can honestly say you have never gone over 30 in town can you.
And you don't know me well enough to judge me
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Do you have kids dangerous dave? If you do, would you be happy with someone driving past your house at what looks like a speed that was not just a bit over 30, but probably twice that while they were out playing?
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Do you have kids dangerous dave? If you do, would you be happy with someone driving past your house at what looks like a speed that was not just a bit over 30, but probably twice that while they were out playing?
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let me try and clear this up.
i do not condone speeding in built up areas.
what i was trying to say is,if you live on a stretch of road that people can hit the sorts of speeds mentioned you need keep a closer eye on your kids.
there will always be speeders, and there will always be parents who think that thier child is everyones responsibilty except thiers.
if the road is dangerous surely that makes sense .................don't it.
i do not condone speeding in built up areas.
what i was trying to say is,if you live on a stretch of road that people can hit the sorts of speeds mentioned you need keep a closer eye on your kids.
there will always be speeders, and there will always be parents who think that thier child is everyones responsibilty except thiers.
if the road is dangerous surely that makes sense .................don't it.
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Originally Posted by dangerous dave
let me try and clear this up.
i do not condone speeding in built up areas.
i do not condone speeding in built up areas.
Originally Posted by dangerous dave
what i was trying to say is,if you live on a stretch of road that people can hit the sorts of speeds mentioned you need keep a closer eye on your kids.
Originally Posted by dangerous dave
there will always be speeders, and there will always be parents who think that thier child is everyones responsibilty except thiers.
Originally Posted by dangerous dave
if the road is dangerous surely that makes sense .................don't it.
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Originally Posted by Alan C
Good.
With a scoob, that's every Cul-de-sac, High street or private road longer than 50 yds. Ludicrous to think that in your world parents should have to keep their kids at arms length.. People shouldn't be speeding, not keeping kids inside.
With a scoob, that's every Cul-de-sac, High street or private road longer than 50 yds. Ludicrous to think that in your world parents should have to keep their kids at arms length.. People shouldn't be speeding, not keeping kids inside.
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Dave, if you weren't condoning speeding, why did you post negatively on a thread about speeding. The car was travelling at more than twice the legal limit on a road that has a school on it. So how sad does CF have to be to jump on the parental responsibilty aspect as opposed to the speeding issue?
We do not let Frank play outside without supervision but like Alan C so reasonably put it, if you are outside at the time a car loses control, it doesn't matter if you are at the bus stop, in the road or in the garden because no-one knows where the car will end up.
We do not let Frank play outside without supervision but like Alan C so reasonably put it, if you are outside at the time a car loses control, it doesn't matter if you are at the bus stop, in the road or in the garden because no-one knows where the car will end up.
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One thing we can do, Livewire, is point out what a disgrace it is to behave like that when you're out in your car. I'm sure Mr. Red Classic doesn't see himself as a slavering child-killer. If he has read this thread, which he may have done, then he cannot have failed to notice that *almost* everyone is united in condemnation of his behaviour. If it was me who'd been pulled up publicly on this BBS for some reason, my ears would be scarlet and I'd think more carefully about the way I drove in future. There are some people that are impossible to reach, however.
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[QUOTE=Manda_po]Dave, if you weren't condoning speeding, why did you post negatively on a thread about speeding. The car was travelling at more than twice the legal limit on a road that has a school on it. So how sad does CF have to be to jump on the parental responsibilty aspect as opposed to the speeding issue?
i don't think i did post negatively :confused;
any road is a dangerous place regardless of what the vehicles speed is that use it.
surely you would agree that it's common sense to keep a closer eye on your boy while he's playing near it.
you're not going to stop speeding traffic down your street so it makes sense to do everything you can to ensure the safety of your boy while he's outside,and not blame something you have no control over.
i don't think i did post negatively :confused;
any road is a dangerous place regardless of what the vehicles speed is that use it.
surely you would agree that it's common sense to keep a closer eye on your boy while he's playing near it.
you're not going to stop speeding traffic down your street so it makes sense to do everything you can to ensure the safety of your boy while he's outside,and not blame something you have no control over.