Just test drove a STI 05
27 February 2005, 10:07 PM
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So your saying that by playing with the DCCD switch in my new 25 grand motor,is only going to increase my chances of unwillingly bending it
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27 February 2005, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dazc
I went for a test drive in one at York last week. When I turned up the only one they had was the one in the showroom. Credit to them, they moved about 5 cars to get it out for a quick spin. Trouble was it was too quick!
Engine not properly up to temp, brakes werent bedded in (only 5 miles on clock) and the thing just felt a bit tight. Had to take it back as it was still to be registered. Impressions? Turn in superb, comfort good, build quality excellent. Performance? No idea.
Felt 40bhp down on my modded classic,(290) but bearing in mind coldish engine (I probably only did a total of 3 miles!) could maybe feel quicker when warm/run in.
Brakes? Good firm pedal, but they werent bedded in so no idea of power. Coming from AP's on mine I really wanted to get a feel for them aswell.
Trouble is finding somewhere fairly local that has one available to test.
Any comments on the missing bits of my test drive would be appreciated. Daz
Engine not properly up to temp, brakes werent bedded in (only 5 miles on clock) and the thing just felt a bit tight. Had to take it back as it was still to be registered. Impressions? Turn in superb, comfort good, build quality excellent. Performance? No idea.
Felt 40bhp down on my modded classic,(290) but bearing in mind coldish engine (I probably only did a total of 3 miles!) could maybe feel quicker when warm/run in.
Brakes? Good firm pedal, but they werent bedded in so no idea of power. Coming from AP's on mine I really wanted to get a feel for them aswell.
Trouble is finding somewhere fairly local that has one available to test.
Any comments on the missing bits of my test drive would be appreciated. Daz
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27 February 2005, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Elmer Fudpucker
So your saying that by playing with the DCCD switch in my new 25 grand motor,is only going to increase my chances of unwillingly bending it
don't forget I'm middle aged
don't forget I'm middle aged
and moving the dial changes them You wont regret getting a car with A-DCCD
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28 February 2005, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by scoobydood
TonyBurns>AFAIK no one has actually stated (officially) that the uk or any eu country is going to get the 2.5ltr (i doubt if it passes eu emissions regs now).
Tony... I thought the US got the 2.5 in the first place because the 2.0 would not meet Californian emission laws and the 2.5 would?? That's what I read in one of the motoring mags anyway...
Tony... I thought the US got the 2.5 in the first place because the 2.0 would not meet Californian emission laws and the 2.5 would?? That's what I read in one of the motoring mags anyway...
Hence they used a 2.5
Which mag do we believe?
28 February 2005, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Well the A-DCCD is more than just a gimick, it does actually have some uses
Now you could say that quick rack steering is a gimick over the fast rack, but drive a car with a quick rack and feel the difference, much better turn in, the A-DCCD is the same, it aids your driving giving better control/balance, and once you have driven a car with it, you will understand
Tony
Now you could say that quick rack steering is a gimick over the fast rack, but drive a car with a quick rack and feel the difference, much better turn in, the A-DCCD is the same, it aids your driving giving better control/balance, and once you have driven a car with it, you will understand
Tony
The demo I drove had DCCD, but I had it set in Auto. Would this then behave the same as a STi 05 without DCCD?
I think what I'm trying to say is that unless your doing powerslides, and some sideways action would you really feel the benifits?
28 February 2005, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by chris's scooby
You've hit the nail on the head.
1) similar shape to present - definitely none of the proposed Frankenstein themeing -just bigger blister arches + 2 door option and set up for 19" moderate profile tyres and lowered slightly
2)Audi style phenomenol DSG paddle shift - can you imagine what 360 lb ft Scoob would feel like if there was no neck dislocating lurch during gear changes - just one big slug of torque through to a hundred - not to mention the perfect power blipping coming down the box - no doubt accompanied with a ,thwack, from the xhaust
3)Optional 'Lux pack' for interior to include Legacy level of leather and a real Stereo system (the centre blue leather is fine, but that sort of nylon sixties weave is truly hideous and gives the breed a bad name
4) Electronically adjustable damper settings for Track, Sport & Comfort
5) Higher 6th gear for better cruising fuel economy + better designing to provide 25% better fuel economy on less than 2/3rds throttle - how many times have you driven at 50 mph for miles on vapour praying you can find another SL station - let alone optimax...
Come on guys - lets start an enthusiasts realistic wish list - if we can keep it real we can get Prodrive and I.M. to submit it to STI for consideration?
28 February 2005, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by compshack
On the import front (er Motorpoint...cough) You can get the new STi 05 in either DCCD or non DCCD, a saving of £1k.
The demo I drove had DCCD, but I had it set in Auto. Would this then behave the same as a STi 05 without DCCD?
I think what I'm trying to say is that unless your doing powerslides, and some sideways action would you really feel the benifits?
The demo I drove had DCCD, but I had it set in Auto. Would this then behave the same as a STi 05 without DCCD?
I think what I'm trying to say is that unless your doing powerslides, and some sideways action would you really feel the benifits?
A DCCD car has 65 R / 35 F.
So yes you would feel a difference.
65/35 is a better drivers setup.
28 February 2005, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Elmer Fudpucker
So your saying that by playing with the DCCD switch in my new 25 grand motor,is only going to increase my chances of unwillingly bending it
don't forget I'm middle aged
don't forget I'm middle aged
28 February 2005, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Nathan L
A car without DCCD has a near enough 50/50 power distribution.
A DCCD car has 65 R / 35 F.
So yes you would feel a difference.
65/35 is a better drivers setup.
A DCCD car has 65 R / 35 F.
So yes you would feel a difference.
65/35 is a better drivers setup.
28 February 2005, 11:51 AM
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Just a comment that most drivers don't seem to like the DSG - "it's too good" seems to be the comment. Hell, I'd like to have a personal opinion on it, but all the same I thought I'd pass one evo's thoughts
28 February 2005, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by chiark
Just a comment that most drivers don't seem to like the DSG - "it's too good" seems to be the comment. Hell, I'd like to have a personal opinion on it, but all the same I thought I'd pass one evo's thoughts
to paraphrase Angus Deaton.............
In what way?
How is it too good exactly?
28 February 2005, 12:39 PM
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In the same way that steptronic/tiptronic isn't everyone's cup o' tea. Power (or torque) just surges through in a continuous stream from 1st to 2nd to 3rd etc. bloody clever, and probably quite fast , but does it give you a "thrill"?
, but does it give you a "thrill"?
28 February 2005, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by chiark
In the same way that steptronic/tiptronic isn't everyone's cup o' tea. Power (or torque) just surges through in a continuous stream from 1st to 2nd to 3rd etc. bloody clever, and probably quite fast , but does it give you a "thrill"?
, but does it give you a "thrill"?I take your point - but 'quite quick' - nope - very quick - because of the nature of 6 sp close ratio coupled to restricted power band and albeit minimal lag on Prodrive - the difference would be night and day say 20 to 100 (conventional gearchange isnt exactly lightening because of design and large torque reserves anyway) - I love Mcrae rally as much for the paddle shift as the handling - I would LOVE to try aT25 type car with sorted DSG.....
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