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02 March 2005, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
how are they supposed to do this job then, walk around with a brass band so everybody looks at them?
lets get real, if they were under cover and hideing in bushes, then they would have been sneaking around, if they pulled up on a bike or car or sumthing (helicopter
) and walked around normaly dishing out tickets, then its not quite the same as sneaking around is it
sounds to me the whole thing is on par with "cruiseing"
coppers turn up while lots of people are parked up haveing a laugh with there mates and dish out lots of fines/tickets for crap mods, strange how SN seams to change its views from "cruisers" and "bikers"
dont give me any bollocks about "cruisers" being more dangerous, ive seen sum ****en nutcase bikers at meets before, so i ould say its pretty even with the idiots brigade IMHO
few young uns whacking the handbrake on, against sum nutter standing on his petrol tank doing 30mph LOL
hell ive even seen one over take my car on the back wheel while i was doing an "decent" amount of speed
lets get real, if they were under cover and hideing in bushes, then they would have been sneaking around, if they pulled up on a bike or car or sumthing (helicopter
) and walked around normaly dishing out tickets, then its not quite the same as sneaking around is itsounds to me the whole thing is on par with "cruiseing"
coppers turn up while lots of people are parked up haveing a laugh with there mates and dish out lots of fines/tickets for crap mods, strange how SN seams to change its views from "cruisers" and "bikers"
dont give me any bollocks about "cruisers" being more dangerous, ive seen sum ****en nutcase bikers at meets before, so i ould say its pretty even with the idiots brigade IMHO
few young uns whacking the handbrake on, against sum nutter standing on his petrol tank doing 30mph LOL
hell ive even seen one over take my car on the back wheel while i was doing an "decent" amount of speed
You seem to miss the fundamental point that visiting a bike park in the middle of the afternoon in London means they get to ticket unattended vehicles where the owners have no opportunity to ask what the offence is or for there any discretion to be used. Visiting a cruise means all the cars are attended and owners get spoken to instead of tickets just slapped straight on their vehicles and for the most minor of offences producers/rectification notices will be given. Plus by your own admission at cruises people misbehave, well bikers can't be misbehaving if they arn't even there, its a bike park for people to park while they are at work, not a bike meeting you pillock.I visited the police station yesterday and made an official complaint about the officers tactics. The officer I spoke to was very understanding of my complaint and was going to take it up with the officer who issued the ticket, turns out she is a new recruit still on probabtion who seems a little too eager to issue tickets. He was very surprised the ticket had been given to me when I wasn't present with the vehicle. He checked with traffic and they did confirm that the usual way to deal with my plate would have been to issue a rectification notice but as she had issued the ticket then the only thing I can do is challenge it in court. Also he said because I wasn't present a rectification notice couldn't have been issued. So that point I said speaks volumes doesn't it, don't target unattended vehicles where rectification notices should be used, thats just pure money generation. So I will go to court, not because I am denying its illegal and I will change the plate, but because of the way it was handled and the fact I have been issued a ticket instead of a rectification notice due to the deliberate targetting of bike parks by a new recruit who by the own admission of her senior officer admitted she needed to be spoken to about her enthusiasm of issuing tickets.
City Police are currently very unpopular with bikers at the moment having spoke to some others last night. I told the police how strained biker/police relations were and they were aware of that and I said deliberately picking on bikes isn't making the situation better is it. Time the discrimination stopped
02 March 2005, 08:22 AM
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i have been to cruises, i have never EVER been to a cruise where people just sit there in there cars, most of the ones i have been to have had people actualy getting out there cars and going for a walk to meet other people, ive seen tickets get placed on cars while the owners are not there .
so who is the pillock now?
pay your fine and maybe change your plate for one that complys with the law?
have you actualy changed your plate yet or is it fully legal?
i can fully understand that the bikers dont like the police, most people dont when they get a ticket or such for not complying with the legal law
pmsl @ pillock you LAW BREAKER
so who is the pillock now?
pay your fine and maybe change your plate for one that complys with the law?
have you actualy changed your plate yet or is it fully legal?
i can fully understand that the bikers dont like the police, most people dont when they get a ticket or such for not complying with the legal law
pmsl @ pillock you LAW BREAKER
02 March 2005, 10:24 AM
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City Police are currently very unpopular with bikers at the moment having spoke to some others last night. I told the police how strained biker/police relations were and they were aware of that and I said deliberately picking on bikes isn't making the situation better is it. Time the discrimination stopped
OK we will ignore bikers for ever more and allow them to break the law - that will be fair to everyone won't it........not.
If it was an operation, they will target areas where they will know bikes are i.e a bike park. What's the point of organising an operation and target odd bikes that may pass by......we are too busy for that.
If you were there at the time you could have argued your point to the oic, but you weren't and we can't wait around for ever.
02 March 2005, 10:34 AM
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They deliberately pick on Bikes, they deliberately pick on Cars, they deliberately pick on Lorries etc.
What evidence (not perception) do you have that they are picking on bikers any more than car drivers?
What evidence (not perception) do you have that they are picking on bikers any more than car drivers?
02 March 2005, 10:51 AM
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You are still the pillock (used as a non offensive term to keep mods happy ) as you can't distinguish between the fact that a bike park is completely devoid of any owners being present to witness any police ticketing where as at a cruise it is full of people either in their cars or walking about who will be able to see and respond to any police activity. Targetting a cruise where owners are specifically meeting to show off their cars is totally different to targetting a car park in the middle of the day when the owners are busy at work and unaware of the police examining their bikes
Can you not understand that very big and simple and very plain difference?
And to re-iterate the officer I spoke to agreed it was unusual behaviour to give tickets to parked vehicles which is why he was going to have a word with the new recruit about her methods.
) as you can't distinguish between the fact that a bike park is completely devoid of any owners being present to witness any police ticketing where as at a cruise it is full of people either in their cars or walking about who will be able to see and respond to any police activity. Targetting a cruise where owners are specifically meeting to show off their cars is totally different to targetting a car park in the middle of the day when the owners are busy at work and unaware of the police examining their bikes Can you not understand that very big and simple and very plain difference?
And to re-iterate the officer I spoke to agreed it was unusual behaviour to give tickets to parked vehicles which is why he was going to have a word with the new recruit about her methods.
02 March 2005, 11:40 AM
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OK we will ignore bikers for ever more and allow them to break the law - that will be fair to everyone won't it........not.
If it was an operation, they will target areas where they will know bikes are i.e a bike park. What's the point of organising an operation and target odd bikes that may pass by......we are too busy for that.
If you were there at the time you could have argued your point to the oic, but you weren't and we can't wait around for ever.
If it was an operation, they will target areas where they will know bikes are i.e a bike park. What's the point of organising an operation and target odd bikes that may pass by......we are too busy for that.
If you were there at the time you could have argued your point to the oic, but you weren't and we can't wait around for ever.
There is a big difference between pulling someone for an offence and explaining to them what the offence is and deliberately going out to target bike parks for minor offences that will only allow the issuing of tickets and offers no chance for rectification notices being handed out or discretion being used because the owners are at work. That is pure money generation and nothing else.It was quite clearly not an operation as the senior officer I spoke to was not impressed the ticket had been issued in the way it had (ie I was not present at the time), and the fact it was issued by a new recruit still on her probationary period was basically put down to her "over enthusiasm" for the job which is why he took my complaint on board and said he would deal with it and that I should challenge the ticket in court! Even traffic division who he checked with confirmed its normal to deal with the offence with a rectification notice FFS.
02 March 2005, 11:45 AM
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They deliberately pick on Bikes, they deliberately pick on Cars, they deliberately pick on Lorries etc.
What evidence (not perception) do you have that they are picking on bikers any more than car drivers?
What evidence (not perception) do you have that they are picking on bikers any more than car drivers?
02 March 2005, 12:00 PM
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I have to say that deliberately targeting bikes or any vehicle for that matter, such as obviously fast cars, in the hopes that the police can find something wrong, is not the way to go about sensible policing. It is a very quick way, as has been seen in the past, to lose the motorist's support and to become a hated organisation.
If you see someone who is breaking the law on the move then it is perfectly reasonable to stop them. If the guy is committing a minor offence which has not endangered anyone and maybe that he did not know about then a word in his ear to advise him will go a long way to getting his appreciation and cooperation then and in the future.
To skulk around in carparks etc just hoping that they can find something that they can prosecute for just to get the monthly figures up smacks of persecution and to my mind is beyond the pale. If you can't see that Felix, then you are not suited to the job and there is no hope for you!
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If you see someone who is breaking the law on the move then it is perfectly reasonable to stop them. If the guy is committing a minor offence which has not endangered anyone and maybe that he did not know about then a word in his ear to advise him will go a long way to getting his appreciation and cooperation then and in the future.
To skulk around in carparks etc just hoping that they can find something that they can prosecute for just to get the monthly figures up smacks of persecution and to my mind is beyond the pale. If you can't see that Felix, then you are not suited to the job and there is no hope for you!
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02 March 2005, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I have to say that deliberately targeting bikes or any vehicle for that matter, such as obviously fast cars, in the hopes that the police can find something wrong, is not the way to go about sensible policing.
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They are often 'tageted' because these vehicles are stolen and used in crime.
If the car's yours and you're pulled over and all's legal then where's the problem? If your car was stolen you'd be expecting to get it back.
What if your car was taken and you were away for a couple of weeks, therefore not reporting it until it's long gone?
There's a balance there.
02 March 2005, 12:18 PM
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Nothing wrong with checking that the vehicle has not been stolen or used in a crime and I did not say that it was in my post. Bookling the owner for a minor offence in his absence during a sweep while the vehicle is parked is a different matter.
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02 March 2005, 12:24 PM
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I've never even heard of someone being ticketed for a Con/Use offence without the driver being present? Other than blatant obsruction offences.
02 March 2005, 12:49 PM
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The law is still the law! an offence is still an offence! a minor offence is still an offence, if you don't want a ticket then don't commit the crime/offence it ain't rocket science!!! Nearly everyday we see posts on here about people being done for incorrect number plates but you don't seem to learn do you, it is an offence to have a non standard number plate and it is also dead easy to spot and deal with by the police.
If everybody stopped trying to get one over on the law and just maintain legal number plates which TBH is not hard, then you would be 40 quid better off and not still ranting 4 BBS pages later about summat that IS your fault and not the fault of the copper who did his job by enforcing the law. As for this crap about targetting bikers, they might be targeting bikers today and cars tomorrow, but I can guarantee that if whilst targetting bikers a dodgy car went past it would be puleld aswell. Also the reason they target bikers is because they all think like you B2Z that you are above the law and don't need to comply to the law, most bikers whinge and tick about being pulled for illegal plates or race cans when you know full well they are illegal. Race cans even have stamped on them not for road use and I know this because the race cans I had on my Ducati had it on. If you can't to the time don't do the crime!!!!
And yes I have an illegal exhaust on my scooby and my insurance company think it is only 220ps but if I get caught then tuff luck on me, I know I am breaking the law.
If everybody stopped trying to get one over on the law and just maintain legal number plates which TBH is not hard, then you would be 40 quid better off and not still ranting 4 BBS pages later about summat that IS your fault and not the fault of the copper who did his job by enforcing the law. As for this crap about targetting bikers, they might be targeting bikers today and cars tomorrow, but I can guarantee that if whilst targetting bikers a dodgy car went past it would be puleld aswell. Also the reason they target bikers is because they all think like you B2Z that you are above the law and don't need to comply to the law, most bikers whinge and tick about being pulled for illegal plates or race cans when you know full well they are illegal. Race cans even have stamped on them not for road use and I know this because the race cans I had on my Ducati had it on. If you can't to the time don't do the crime!!!!
And yes I have an illegal exhaust on my scooby and my insurance company think it is only 220ps but if I get caught then tuff luck on me, I know I am breaking the law.
02 March 2005, 01:04 PM
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if you bothered to read all my posts I was unaware it was an illegal plate as its hardly any different to a normal plate, only when comparing it against a car plate can you see the letters have a slight italic curve to the edge of them. The plate is normal size. I was not aware plates had a BS kite mark on them, I do now though I have never had an illegal number plate in all the years i've been riding/driving, this one was on the bike when I bought it and had never given it any thought.And if you also read, the police officer who I spoke with was not happy about the way in which the ticket was given which was why he was going to speak to the new recruit about it. He suggested I contest it in court. He agreed with my argument in that it shouldn't have been given to an unattended parked bike, also due to the fact the ticket wasn't actually fixed to the bike, only tucked into the fairing where it could have been missed or fallen off. And I again say that Traffic told him it should have been dealt with by way of a rectification notice when he checked with them. Its called using discretion Wurzel, and a minor offence that can be dealt with by way of rectifier is a sensible way to deal with it. The new recruit was being over eager with her new ticket book!
02 March 2005, 01:11 PM
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And yes I have an illegal exhaust on my scooby and my insurance company think it is only 220ps but if I get caught then tuff luck on me, I know I am breaking the law.
Fancy getting sued to cover third party losses? Fancy paying someone hundreds of pounds a month for the rest of your life because you were too stupid to report a performance modification to your insurance company?
Tell me exactly how that is even remotely the same as having a legally sized, legally spaced and legal font number plate with what turns out to be a slightly dubious backing.
This isn't about being above the law. It's about being continually targetted. And it isn't on.
Want some evidence? How about the Assistant Chief Constable of North Yorkshire going on record saying that a large proportion of bikers are "lifestyle criminals" for a start. OK, so he withdrew it later but the fact that the statement was made at all says a lot for the prevailing attitude.
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02 March 2005, 01:15 PM
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Actually Wurzel, if your insurance company decides to play hardball when they examine your vehicle after an accident then they may well decide you're not insured.
Fancy getting sued to cover third party losses? Fancy paying someone hundreds of pounds a month for the rest of your life because you were too stupid to report a performance modification to your insurance company?
Tell me exactly how that is even remotely the same as having a legally sized, legally spaced and legal font number plate with what turns out to be a slightly dubious backing.
This isn't about being above the law. It's about being continually targetted. And it isn't on.
Want some evidence? How about the Assistant Chief Constable of North Yorkshire going on record saying that a large proportion of bikers are "lifestyle criminals" for a start. OK, so he withdrew it later but the fact that the statement was made at all says a lot for the prevailing attitude.
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Fancy getting sued to cover third party losses? Fancy paying someone hundreds of pounds a month for the rest of your life because you were too stupid to report a performance modification to your insurance company?
Tell me exactly how that is even remotely the same as having a legally sized, legally spaced and legal font number plate with what turns out to be a slightly dubious backing.
This isn't about being above the law. It's about being continually targetted. And it isn't on.
Want some evidence? How about the Assistant Chief Constable of North Yorkshire going on record saying that a large proportion of bikers are "lifestyle criminals" for a start. OK, so he withdrew it later but the fact that the statement was made at all says a lot for the prevailing attitude.
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02 March 2005, 01:20 PM
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Let's talk about discrimination, shall we?
Two or three times a year, every year, I get pulled in by the Old Bill on my (or someone else's - goes with the job) bike. No problem so far.
I then get patronised by some spotty teenager asking if I've considered advanced training.
"Was there something wrong with my riding?"
"No. We're just stopping all bikers to get the safety message across."
"Fine. So the fact that I'm also a part time advanced/track/Nurburgring instructor probably means that yes, I have considered advanced riding. Quite a lot."
"Umm. Well don't you think you should be wearing a high visibility jacket?"
"My bike is yellow. My lights are on. My leathers are yellow and black. If someone can't see me coming they shouldn't be on the road, I'd suggest..."
Now. What about asking some of the appalling drivers in and around London if they've ever considered advanced driving? or even, in some cases, just basic lessons?
Doesn't happen, does it?
Why?
Because bikers still have to put up with small minded petty bigotry from way up the pecking order.
The Mayor hates us because he couldn't work out how to congestion charge a bike. So he got rid of lots of parking spaces and instructed his oppos in local authorities to target bikes and get us off the road.
The safety weenies hate us because there is a perception that biking is dangerous and we need protecting from ourselves. The fact that, statistically, biking has never been safer than now doesn't matter to them. So they apply pressure and produce headline numbers (that aren't true) and the pressure gets passed on.
And some bikers bring it on themselves with stupidly loud pipes and critnous riding. So we all get hammered for that as well, though Darwinism will eventually get rid of that element.
It's all part of the charm of life on two wheels. But it still gets on my ****...
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Two or three times a year, every year, I get pulled in by the Old Bill on my (or someone else's - goes with the job) bike. No problem so far.
I then get patronised by some spotty teenager asking if I've considered advanced training.
"Was there something wrong with my riding?"
"No. We're just stopping all bikers to get the safety message across."
"Fine. So the fact that I'm also a part time advanced/track/Nurburgring instructor probably means that yes, I have considered advanced riding. Quite a lot."
"Umm. Well don't you think you should be wearing a high visibility jacket?"
"My bike is yellow. My lights are on. My leathers are yellow and black. If someone can't see me coming they shouldn't be on the road, I'd suggest..."
Now. What about asking some of the appalling drivers in and around London if they've ever considered advanced driving? or even, in some cases, just basic lessons?
Doesn't happen, does it?
Why?
Because bikers still have to put up with small minded petty bigotry from way up the pecking order.
The Mayor hates us because he couldn't work out how to congestion charge a bike. So he got rid of lots of parking spaces and instructed his oppos in local authorities to target bikes and get us off the road.
The safety weenies hate us because there is a perception that biking is dangerous and we need protecting from ourselves. The fact that, statistically, biking has never been safer than now doesn't matter to them. So they apply pressure and produce headline numbers (that aren't true) and the pressure gets passed on.
And some bikers bring it on themselves with stupidly loud pipes and critnous riding. So we all get hammered for that as well, though Darwinism will eventually get rid of that element.
It's all part of the charm of life on two wheels. But it still gets on my ****...
SB
02 March 2005, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
I was only pointing out that I am not a tree hugging PC doogooder thats all.
But I still think you should tell your insurance company, assuming that the last part of your mail wasn't simply added for (perfectly legitimate) dramatic effect...
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02 March 2005, 01:45 PM
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HAVE YOU CHANGED YOUR PLATE YET OR IS IT FULLY LEGAL??
we all know who the pillock is and its the one who breaks the law and then crys about it.
you can dress it up as much as you want, do the crime and do the time
the police discreminate against everybody they encounter, thats how they find criminals
deal with it, you southern, future, soap picking, shower monkey
we all know who the pillock is and its the one who breaks the law and then crys about it.
you can dress it up as much as you want, do the crime and do the time
the police discreminate against everybody they encounter, thats how they find criminals
deal with it, you southern, future, soap picking, shower monkey
02 March 2005, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
The law is still the law! an offence is still an offence! a minor offence is still an offence, if you don't want a ticket then don't commit the crime/offence it ain't rocket science!!! Nearly everyday we see posts on here about people being done for incorrect number plates but you don't seem to learn do you, it is an offence to have a non standard number plate and it is also dead easy to spot and deal with by the police.
Bravo2lawbreaker, do yourself a favour and read this, no how about tatooing it into your forehead, so that everytime you look into a mirror it sinks in.
rocket science?
ps have you changed your plate yet or is it infact fully legal?
02 March 2005, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Sbradley
Because bikers still have to put up with small minded petty bigotry from way up the pecking order.
Every motorist no matter what they drive,ride and ****en fly has to put up with this.
i can rember not so long ago, finnishing work late at 3am, traveling home and being pulled over for a "routine stop"
turns out one of my rear lights had went out on the way home (i check them regulary as it bugs me having one broken anywhere)
"ohh but i didnt know it was out", tough titty, i still got a ticket, and all i wanted to do was go home and goto bed after a hard days graft, was i discriminated against?
if his bike was fully legal im sure, he wouldnt have a got a ticket. him not being there has no bearing on the fact that the people who police the laws thought it wasnt correct?
should they have just left a little note saying "please think about changing the plate for a few seconds, before you ignore us and never get the thing changed"?
belive me im trying to get my head round this daft logic, whereby you break laws and get punished, but its not right as they used sneaky tactics to catch you out.
ps has he changed his plate yet or is it fully legal after all?
i would suspect that the plate hasnt been changed, although i would be happy to hear that he had changed it ASAP for a correct road legal version (if it were indeed faulty)
but we all know the way this is going to turn out LOL
bunch of pillocks
02 March 2005, 05:12 PM
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thats it, look up and see the tattoo
02 March 2005, 06:59 PM
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it doesnt matter who they are, when there all criminals who get punished
if you look up and dont see a tattoo, you say you see me
thats because i am above you, my plates are fine and dandy, your plates are just "fine", so pay for the mot stamp (if you have to, i know sum can get them done for free) you criminal
no need to start slinging the nasty words about, if you cant handle the heat then stfu and dont reply
i suppose you would winge if your car got a parking ticket, and you were not with your car as well
"cos its sooo unfair"
you pillock!
if you look up and dont see a tattoo, you say you see me
thats because i am above you, my plates are fine and dandy, your plates are just "fine", so pay for the mot stamp (if you have to, i know sum can get them done for free) you criminal
no need to start slinging the nasty words about, if you cant handle the heat then stfu and dont reply
i suppose you would winge if your car got a parking ticket, and you were not with your car as well
"cos its sooo unfair"
you pillock!
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If you can't see what B2Z is commenting on then I pity you Micky. I thought you came across as an obnoxious **** in your "I've got some chavs working for me thread" but you've really underlined it with the comments above. Your typing and spelling standards are awful, your attitude sucks, you're abusive and condescending and yet you feel you have the right to preach and label someone a criminal when you've chosen to either ignore or misinterpret the facts laid out in front of you. From what I read B2Z is complaining (and fairly so) about the underhanded and heavy approach of the officer in question, not whether they were technically correct in their perception of his plate and it's legality.
For my money you are either on a deliberate wind-up (and let's be fair pslewis does it with much more style) or you're a fool.
Ever thought of being a traffic warden? I would say copper but I understand there is some form of entry exam and I wouldn't trust you to spell your name correctly on the top.
For my money you are either on a deliberate wind-up (and let's be fair pslewis does it with much more style) or you're a fool.
Ever thought of being a traffic warden? I would say copper but I understand there is some form of entry exam and I wouldn't trust you to spell your name correctly on the top.
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the underhanded and heavy approach of the officer in question, not whether they were technically correct in their perception of his plate and it's legality.