Al-Qaeda 'has 200 on UK streets'
08 March 2005, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Freak
this bill will really help stopping someone driving a truck into central london (random example) and pushing the button. 
Farce
the threat of terrorism in the uk is nothing new..... except the IRA was a real threat and actually cArried out stuff.
I see no difference between then and now to be honest- except the IRA worse ski masks not turbans.
if someone wants to do something horrific- they will do. Not exactly hard to do- all the laws in the world wont prevent it.
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the threat of terrorism in the uk is nothing new..... except the IRA was a real threat and actually cArried out stuff.
I see no difference between then and now to be honest- except the IRA worse ski masks not turbans.
if someone wants to do something horrific- they will do. Not exactly hard to do- all the laws in the world wont prevent it.
08 March 2005, 02:12 PM
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Historically, prior to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, there was not much hostility between Jews and Muslims, apart from some occasional local tribal conflicts. The Jews, however, had been subjected to many persecutions at the hand of the Christians for a mixture of religious, racial, and social reasons. This deeply-rooted hatred of the Jews by the Christians, became known as "anti-semitism".
So, by the commonality of values and history up to the 20th century, it would appear, that, if there were to be a deep rift between the three Abrahamic religions, it would have been the Judeo-Islamic belief in One God, against the Christians, who would be seen by both the Jews and the Muslims as idolaters and historical enemies of them both. Then how did it come about that Jews and Christians had joined together against the Muslims in a "Judeo-Christian Tradition"?
The reason for this seeming paradox, is that the term "Judeo-Christian", has little to do with religion or past history. It is a late 20th century political phenomenon. "Judeo-Christianity" is a mixture of American geo-political ambitions with Israeli Zionism, justified by references to the Bible by some Evangelical Christians. And the reasons the "Judeo-Christians" see Islam as the enemy is not religious, but political. Politicians need an enemy, because hatred and fear of an enemy helps them to generate popular support for themselves. The desire of the Israeli and American politicians to dominate the Middle East makes Islam an ideal enemy, because this gives them justification for their wars. The "Judeo-Christian values" are not the values of Moses, Jesus and Muhammad, but just another political ideology used to justify crimes against person and property by politicians.
So, by the commonality of values and history up to the 20th century, it would appear, that, if there were to be a deep rift between the three Abrahamic religions, it would have been the Judeo-Islamic belief in One God, against the Christians, who would be seen by both the Jews and the Muslims as idolaters and historical enemies of them both. Then how did it come about that Jews and Christians had joined together against the Muslims in a "Judeo-Christian Tradition"?
The reason for this seeming paradox, is that the term "Judeo-Christian", has little to do with religion or past history. It is a late 20th century political phenomenon. "Judeo-Christianity" is a mixture of American geo-political ambitions with Israeli Zionism, justified by references to the Bible by some Evangelical Christians. And the reasons the "Judeo-Christians" see Islam as the enemy is not religious, but political. Politicians need an enemy, because hatred and fear of an enemy helps them to generate popular support for themselves. The desire of the Israeli and American politicians to dominate the Middle East makes Islam an ideal enemy, because this gives them justification for their wars. The "Judeo-Christian values" are not the values of Moses, Jesus and Muhammad, but just another political ideology used to justify crimes against person and property by politicians.
08 March 2005, 02:21 PM
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oh no I'm scared 
An ex-copper has sold a story to the best paper he could (News of the World).
Might think of moving to another country....
...or maybe keep an eye on the asian family across the road....
or maybe vote in Blair to keep us safe from the 200 trained terrorists that are wanting to cause terror (but are somehow unable too )
it got printed in one of the few papers where its readers ares stupid enough to believe it
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An ex-copper has sold a story to the best paper he could (News of the World).Might think of moving to another country....
...or maybe keep an eye on the asian family across the road....
or maybe vote in Blair to keep us safe from the 200 trained terrorists that are wanting to cause terror (but are somehow unable too
)it got printed in one of the few papers where its readers ares stupid enough to believe it
Bob
08 March 2005, 02:40 PM
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What a croc most of us are still thinking. Think of it like this. If any of us were so inclined would it of taken this long to have commited a large terrorist attrocity since 9/11 in the UK? The simple answer is no. If any of us could without any so called 'terrorist training' hire a van and drive into central London with a load of Nitrogen fertilizer on board, then so could, so called OBL 'suspects' that live in our ranks. It really is mind numbing that people still let the Party Politicians lie to suit their own agendas, brainwashed into going baa baa baa. As long as they have their happy meals and cheap goods from China, ******** are happy.
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