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19 March 2005, 07:35 PM
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Misty,you pay 11% what percentage does the employer add,and is it a final salary scheme or defined contribution.
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19 March 2005, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by misty
Pete have you ever pulled a dead burnt child from a house fire? Have you ever had to cut someones foot off with a parachute knife to free them from a smashed up car? Have you ever seen someones brains draining out of their head? Should I go on??? £30k!!!!!! it's a feckin insult mate. You think it's right that some MP nonce gets £56k for snoring in the commons do you? Or that some pen pusher behind a desk gets £60k for wrecking the NHS. Wake up man before you find yourself knocking on peoples doors along with rest of this governments toadies.
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So stop moaning about the pay!!There are 30 applicants for each FireFighter job at the wages and terms offerred ................... so, leave!
Plenty want what you have!Sorry, you are NOT worth £30k - the market conditions say that - you could be replaced 30 times over at £20k!!!
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19 March 2005, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by misty
It's a final salary scheme, but as this lot is trying their best to destroy FSPS, who knows what could happen!!
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19 March 2005, 07:39 PM
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Any FireFighter who would retire before 2013 are NOT affected by the changes I have been reliably informed
Why don't you get along to your local fire station and put your points across face to face with a few firefighters mate? CHALLENGE!!!!!! Or like this labour government are you to afraid to look people in the eye when talking tough!!!
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19 March 2005, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by paulr
..and what percentage does the employer add,if any.
and they still moan!!! FFS wake up and smell the coffee Fireman Dave!!
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19 March 2005, 07:42 PM
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if sumbody is botherd by pulling dead kids out of a fire or chopping peoples legs off then they shouldnt really be in that job IMO if they think the pay isnt high enough to warrent the distress?
its easy to diss sumbody who you think does nothing for 60k a year, but lets get real, they have probably put a lot more hours in before hand to enable them to get to that position, unless they brownosed there way up, in which case fire away!!
when i worked for nissan, 99% of the people next to me seriously hated the office staff upstairs, they got the same wage, and sat there at a desk all day, theres lads busting there ***** building cars, while a "pen pusher" upstairs played solitaire on the pc for the same money.
some people would say "if you were not such a mong in school you would be pushing the pen yourself"
i have tried my best not to be a **** in this reply
its easy to diss sumbody who you think does nothing for 60k a year, but lets get real, they have probably put a lot more hours in before hand to enable them to get to that position, unless they brownosed there way up, in which case fire away!!
when i worked for nissan, 99% of the people next to me seriously hated the office staff upstairs, they got the same wage, and sat there at a desk all day, theres lads busting there ***** building cars, while a "pen pusher" upstairs played solitaire on the pc for the same money.
some people would say "if you were not such a mong in school you would be pushing the pen yourself"
i have tried my best not to be a **** in this reply
19 March 2005, 07:42 PM
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I'm sure you could get firefighters if you paid 12k,but would they be any good.
"sorry mr Lewis,we cant send anyone out to save your house,3 rang in sick,1 turned up drunk,and 2 just never turned up".
Pay crap wages,you get crap workers.
The market isnt everything.
"sorry mr Lewis,we cant send anyone out to save your house,3 rang in sick,1 turned up drunk,and 2 just never turned up".
Pay crap wages,you get crap workers.
The market isnt everything.
19 March 2005, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by misty
So that makes it all alright does it? Yes I do know many firefighters under 40.
Why don't you get along to your local fire station and put your points across face to face with a few firefighters mate? CHALLENGE!!!!!! Or like this labour government are you to afraid to look people in the eye when talking tough!!!
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Why don't you get along to your local fire station and put your points across face to face with a few firefighters mate? CHALLENGE!!!!!! Or like this labour government are you to afraid to look people in the eye when talking tough!!!
dave
They just cried into their mugs of veggie soup!! Challenge?? Ha Ha Ha - they simply sit around getting FAT!!
And those STOOOOOOPID hats with flames on!! Ha Ha Ha - laughable!
£30k and retire at 50??? And STILL moan!!??
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19 March 2005, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by paulr
I'm sure you could get firefighters if you paid 12k,but would they be any good.
"sorry mr Lewis,we cant send anyone out to save your house,3 rang in sick,1 turned up drunk,and 2 just never turned up".
Pay crap wages,you get crap workers.
The market isnt everything.
"sorry mr Lewis,we cant send anyone out to save your house,3 rang in sick,1 turned up drunk,and 2 just never turned up".
Pay crap wages,you get crap workers.
The market isnt everything.
And at £20k they attract 30 applicants ..... lets assume 25 are crap?
Thats STILL 5 who would be good and would kill to get the job!!
And who wouldn't?? Play pool, do another job, play playstation, rescue Mrs Smiths cat, and then - One day in a month - actually have to do some REAL stuff like cut a car roof off!!
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19 March 2005, 07:46 PM
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If thats correct,then most workers would love a pension scheme like that.Most pensions now are rubbish,Boots pay only 3% and its defined contribution,no wonder 80% of Boots employees dont bother joining.
I wont comment on the job or salary but that is one great pension scheme.
I wont comment on the job or salary but that is one great pension scheme.
19 March 2005, 07:50 PM
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some people would say "if you were not such a mong in school you would be pushing the pen yourself"
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19 March 2005, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
misty - don't rise to his troll bait mate. It's what he feeds on.
19 March 2005, 07:52 PM
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Thank you Paul!!
UB is one sad loser
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Dave, you chose the Fire Service as it had better conditions than the Engineering industry ........... ?
UB is one sad loser
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Dave, you chose the Fire Service as it had better conditions than the Engineering industry ........... ?
19 March 2005, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by misty
Thanks for the informed reply! This "mong" happens to have a HNC in engineering mate, I chose the job I do so I wouldn't be pushing pens sat on my ****.
19 March 2005, 07:56 PM
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Well thanks for brightening up a dull saturday evening PS
But I really must go now someones been ringing up for a fire engine for twenty minutes but I wanted to finish this game of snooker! See you soon.
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But I really must go now someones been ringing up for a fire engine for twenty minutes but I wanted to finish this game of snooker! See you soon.
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19 March 2005, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by paulr
I thought his comments on the pension scheme were sensible and informed,not troll?
I think he spent too long in the sun gathering up those trollies in Morrison's car park today.
19 March 2005, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by misty
I know......................................My Evo will **** all over your Scooby!!!
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19 March 2005, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
lewis drives an MX5 how sad/gay is that!!!
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19 March 2005, 08:08 PM
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Paulr I thought we had finished with that one mate?
Mazda MX5 nice car nothing against them, a good friend of mine has one. SHE's a firefighter too
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Mazda MX5 nice car nothing against them, a good friend of mine has one. SHE's a firefighter too
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