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Old 19 March 2005, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by misty
Pete have you ever pulled a dead burnt child from a house fire? Have you ever had to cut someones foot off with a parachute knife to free them from a smashed up car? Have you ever seen someones brains draining out of their head? dave
Ever seen a body shortly after a train ran over his legs, torso went in to wheels, mashed parts over next half mile, legs intact on track half mile back.
Ever been threatened with a knife, "anything goes wrong, you get sliced?"
Ever seen and treated a child with injuries inflicted by parents, who died later?
Ever been at work and been operational in your job 95% of the time?
I could go on and on.

Ask any junior nurse in A&E in the NHS (above example was just one friend) They will tell you stuff like that and typically on less than 20K, they dont do it for money, those that did left, best thing they did.

Money is not all about rewarding the awful things you see and the awful things you have to do.
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Originally Posted by paulr
Is it index linked too?
Of course it is!!

A fireman retiring aged 50 with 30 years service would receive an index linked pension of approx £15,000 pa with a capital value of about £400,000 .

With the mooted increase of 16%, this would rise to nearly £464,000.

Other than some directors' schemes, this generosity is unmatched in the private sector.

And STILL they cry and moan and blubber!! They need to be hauled into the real world!

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Pete's one of the star posters on this forum nowadays (though I've been on Scoobynet a long time and don't think we saw eye to eye in the dim and distance past)! The stuff he writes is intelligent, eloquent and fun to read...unlike that of some of the dullards who rise to his contraversy but aren't up to the challenge.

So, keep up the good work Pete! You make this forum a more interesting place.

Oh, and agree with him on the firefighter issue. Market forces all the way.

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Old 19 March 2005, 08:17 PM
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Ever seen a body shortly after a train ran over his legs, torso went in to wheels, mashed parts over next half mile, legs intact on track half mile back.
Ever been threatened with a knife, "anything goes wrong, you get sliced?"
Ever seen and treated a child with injuries inflicted by parents, who died later?
Ever been at work and been operational in your job 95% of the time?
I could go on and on.

Ask any junior nurse in A&E in the NHS (above example was just one friend) They will tell you stuff like that and typically on less than 20K, they dont do it for money, those that did left, best thing they did.

Money is not all about rewarding the awful things you see and the awful things you have to do.
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Yes I can probably answer honestly to that question!

What's your beef with firemen mate get turned down for the job did you? You loser!!! Why don't you try to put your views instead of trying to fight someone elses corner?
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Old 19 March 2005, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by GCollier
The stuff he writes is intelligent, eloquent and fun to read...
Must be why so many of his threads get locked or deleted.

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Old 19 March 2005, 08:26 PM
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43% of fireman retire due to ill health and get full benefit after 26 years.
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Old 19 March 2005, 08:30 PM
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By 2007 25% of the fire budget of local councils will go towards paying the pensions of fireman.
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Old 19 March 2005, 08:34 PM
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43% of fireman retire due to ill health and get full benefit after 26 years.
I'm sorry Dave, but, Firemen are one of the laziest group of 'workers' (I use the term loosely) I have ever known!!

The Ill-Health issue is total crap - just an excuse to retire and continue their 'other' job!

The public have the measure of the Firemens unreal demands and baby crying tantrums!

The 1948 Firemens game is finally up!!

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Old 19 March 2005, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GCollier
Pete's one of the star posters on this forum nowadays (though I've been on Scoobynet a long time and don't think we saw eye to eye in the dim and distance past)! The stuff he writes is intelligent, eloquent and fun to read...unlike that of some of the dullards who rise to his contraversy but aren't up to the challenge.

So, keep up the good work Pete! You make this forum a more interesting place.

Oh, and agree with him on the firefighter issue. Market forces all the way.

Gary.
Thank you Gary!

Most don't see eye to eye with me at first .... eventually they see the reasoning of my logic and accept it (they may still not agree, but allow me the right to post a view!)

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eventually they see the reasoning of my logic and accept it
Seems to me that they just take the **** out of you. I've yet to see a single person 'see the reasoning of your logic'.
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Old 19 March 2005, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Spring Heeled Jack
Seems to me that they just take the **** out of you. I've yet to see a single person 'see the reasoning of your logic'.
You've only been here a month you clown!!

Have some respect kiddie!!

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Old 19 March 2005, 09:34 PM
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pslewis might be a c@@k sucking sausage jocky , BUT she does make good entertainment...
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Old 19 March 2005, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by richie rich
pslewis might be a c@@k sucking sausage jocky , BUT she does make good entertainment...
And YOU have only been here a month too!!

Have some respect for the King of SN!!

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Old 19 March 2005, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
And YOU have only been here a month too!! a month and ten days, sausage

Have some respect for the King of SN!!

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Old 19 March 2005, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
And YOU have only been here a month too!!

Have some respect for the King of SN!!

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got to laugh thou.
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Old 19 March 2005, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
You've only been here a month
Have I?
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Old 19 March 2005, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by richie rich
got to laugh thou.
Which answers the original question as to why we view and post on his threads.
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Old 19 March 2005, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by GCollier
Pete's one of the star posters on this forum nowadays (though I've been on Scoobynet a long time and don't think we saw eye to eye in the dim and distance past)! The stuff he writes is intelligent, eloquent and fun to read...unlike that of some of the dullards who rise to his contraversy but aren't up to the challenge.

So, keep up the good work Pete! You make this forum a more interesting place.

Oh, and agree with him on the firefighter issue. Market forces all the way.

Gary.
You sir, sound as much a moron as the original poster.

More if I were being honest.

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Old 20 March 2005, 08:30 AM
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I really have to laugh at PSL's whingeing over having his objectionable threads vaped.

The main cause is that he is incapable of producing a reasoned argument anyway. He just posts a set of NL type soundbites which signify nothing as one might expect, and then runs away when he can't cope with the replies. His sole ability is to quote a so called fact out of context and then hope it will produce a thread of record length. He is only interested in trying to wind people up, and the self called King of SN is showing that he has no clothes

Its even better when he gets caught out for hypocritical comments. That really makes him hide away for a couple of days!

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Old 20 March 2005, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by misty
Yes I can probably answer honestly to that question!

What's your beef with firemen mate get turned down for the job did you? You loser!!! Why don't you try to put your views instead of trying to fight someone elses corner?
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You must try harder than that to annoy me, those views are mine, how do you know I am a loser, do you know what i do? Do you care? If you cant see the relevance than i aint gonna bother spelling it out to you.
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Old 20 March 2005, 11:31 AM
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You must try harder than that to annoy me, those views are mine, how do you know I am a loser, do you know what i do? Do you care? If you cant see the relevance than i aint gonna bother spelling it out to you.
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The comment was not aimed at you mate! it was for the delectation of Paulr!!
But if the cap fits mate.......
What has come out of this thread is that most of you despise firemen for some reason? I can only assume from this that none of you have had the misfortune to need one.I hope if ever that day comes (god forbid) that you reflect on your former views.

PS again it would seem youve been trolling websites for info on the fire service. Where the **** did you get your figures from pal?
A fireman retiring today with 30 years service would, with full commutation receive £62k and an annual pension of £12k. A fireman would have to live untill he/she was over 95 to receive the figures you quote!!! Unless you honestly believe inflation will be in double figures for the next twenty years? And if he/she died the day after they retired their spouses would get only half.

I'd really like for this thread to end now, and to say one thing. In your first post you wanted to know why it was alright to call the labour party, but not to defnd it. Yet your quite prepared to slag off the fire service of which you quite obviously know jack **** about, but call me for trying to defend it!!! smacks of a little hypocrisy to me.
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Once again, the thread degenerates into insults and name-calling.

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