Iain Young

Why is this any different to the number of bandwagons Howard has jumped on so far on the run up to the election? This is just typical pre-election behaviour, and all the parties do it.

Yes I think school dinners should be improved, but I also think there should be better education at home for the parents so the kids can eat properly there as well. also, they ought to put home economics back as a required subject IMO....

03-CTR

i think even "good tv" is a bit generous

jasonius

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Jamie Oliver is a complete @rsehole. He has jumped on the bandwagon (just like he did with Fifteen..!) and makes out he's some kind of saint, when he is only doing this for his own popularity..!

All the ****e about how stressful it is, arguing with his wife, crying..! It was just the same with Fifteen. How many of you believe that he personally stumped up £1 million+ by remortgaging his family home to fund that programme..? It was all a publicity stunt, do you know how many of those 15 underpriviledged kids are still working at his restaurant..?

"he's a cheeky cockney barrow boy from the east end, a little bit worr a little bit eey..!" Yeh my ****, essex choir boy from a middle class family..!

It's just sad that it takes some TW@T like him to get the government showing some pre election 'interest'.

Sorry rant over. (you can probably tell I don't like him much)

Jason

jasonius

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Exactly

OllyK

Food isn't essential? I didn't know that. Let's just not feed them at all then. Come on, I wouldn't suggest we feed the kids caviar and lobster everyday, but a balanced diet is important for healthy development, reduced e numbers lowers hyperactivity levels and leads to the kids being less disruptive and doing better in class.

That just shows that the parents need to be educated as well.

OllyK

Of the original lot?? None I expect, it was never supposed to be a permenant position, he trains them up, sends them on to other restaurants (if they can cut it) after 12 months and then takes on another bunch, what's your point?

blueone

I think most of that is regurgitated spin from the tabloids.

Tiggs

common sense at last...the mans a fool.

if sadam hussein started to campaign for schoold dinners it wouldnt make the school dinners situation right...and he's still be a nasty bloke!

mynickers

Thing is, even if Oliver was motivated by his own vanity to gain public approval, rather than purely as a selfless act to help the yoof of today, the end result is the same. And I really think it's poor taste to attack him for it, even if he is a mockney muppet sometimes! No one else addressed the issue, and it's been like that for years. So I can't fault him for it, at least he did it, and achieved something, which is more than anyone else has..

03-CTR

don't get me wrong, i think food is essential. i just don't think, in the grand scheme of things, food is perceived to be an "educational essential". the thing is it's easy to criticise if you're a biased food buff like jamie but things are rarely black and white.

when i went through the process of selecting a suitable school for my little one the offsted report only centred arround things like facilities, teaching quality, pupil to staff ratios etc. the menu's didn't even get a mention. whether this is because catering does not fall under offsted's analytical umbrella or whether they perceive food to be irrelevant i don't know but i doubt many schools will focus heavily on catering if they are not being judged on it (and their existence based on it).

with regard to parents i've had a tough time getting round this one but have to conclude that it's down to the individual. we all know what good food is but how many of us actually take responsibility for it ?? although most people know what you should eat even fewer people can be bothered to buy or cook it and instead go for the easy option. at the end of the day people are bloody lazy and that's no-one else's fault but the individual. sure the government could educate us but there's no way i want my tax going to educate some lazy sod that can't be bothered to think for himself or pick up a book. if people really are that crap then bring on the obesity and the early heart attack. it's all about survival of the fittest

mynickers

Defo, this is what I think, tabloid culture of attacking, and mud slinging. Moan when people do things wrong, then don’t' give them a chance to do anything right or mend their ways. Loose / loose scenario really hacks me off, so fricking negative.

Whether you like the bloke or not, he has done something good here, if nothing else to get the issue to such a high profile, about school dins and diet generally. And to cloud your objective judgement of that by your own prejudice towards the bloke is just childish.

Spring Heeled Jack

Looks like the Scoobynet Sun readers have turned up in force with their stereotypical responses.



Why is this any different to the number of bandwagons Howard has jumped on so far on the run up to the election?



Because (and you don't even need half a brain for this one...) all this is happening under Blair's stewardship. They've had 7 years do improve school meals but have done *nothing* but make them progressively worse. Now that JO has exposed them they are hurridly making up spin about all the alleged initiatives they are planning.


Too late Mr Blair. We are sick of your blatant lies and mismanagement.


Jack.

Spring Heeled Jack

So what exactly has your wonderful contribution to society been then?

Bugger all? Thought so. Run along and buy your ready meal and your lottery ticket!

joni

Placing "Jamie Oliver the character" to one side, he has stirred up a worthwhile debate whatever the motivation.

To hear the teachers in the programme state that behaviour and concentration had markedly improved and that there was little or no need for medication for Asthma since the introduction of the meals was a bit of an eye opener. Suggests that improved diet could have far reaching implications for the whole of society?

To hear the Schools Minister today promising refurbished kitchens and training for dinner ladies suggests that the government has spectacularly missed the point.

Vegescoob

Simple really this food thing. The "homo sapiens", us, is still biologically suited to the same diet our Neanderthal predecessors lived on, apart from some specific evolutions.
Now shoot me down.

03-CTR

slightly paranoid view don't you think ??

soz if you're being dry

03-CTR

you freak. only kidding

i'd like to think that the traffic light system wouldn't work. why? because a balanced diet is all about exactly that. a balance. i'm no expert on nutrition but i eat healthily and am sure that a mix of everything is required to keep oneself healthy (and that goes for the stuff they'd class as 'red' too). everything in moderation as they say so the traffic light system wouldn't work with my family (digs out tub of hagen daas ).

with regard to your previous comment tho' people have the freedom to eat and shop where they want. i'm sure the government would like us all to do as we're told but as individuals we're responsible for our own choices and taking care of ourselves is one of them. sadly i don't think a great deal of the population is bothered about such fundamentals so are happy to be unhealthy. if being unhealthy makes people easier to control then fine but as i say, that's down to the individual, oh, and the agency that's putting mind controlling drugs in the water supply

Vegescoob

Not much success with SN minds! Up the doseage.