DCSCOBBY

Police dont need an excuse to pull anyone over, alot of people dont realise that, and im all up for spot checks as this will occasionally find the illegal (no MOT, not road worthy, no insurance etc) or stolen car.

suprabeast

Thats a sweeping generalisation... don't agree at all. I've had a slightly iffy number plate in the past when i was younger... ive never not had an MOT or insurance

suprabeast

but you're the one talking bollocks... not me

judgejules

oooooooooooo handbags people, haaand baaaags

I dont know why they just dont make the fine £300, people would think twice about doing it then. It gets on my nerves when people change O's to 8's or B's with the use of black screw caps, I mean, if its black under the screw, use the black cap, otherwise use the correct coloured one, its not rocket science.

Jules

TelBoy

^^^ What he said with bells on.

Don't be a pikey, don't frig with your number plate.

Tiggs

see now you are just making stuff up...you cant just sling an accusation like that and hope no one spots that it makes no sense.


the original poster had an illegal plate....PC pulls him and does a few checks.....this is his job. Its not a waste of his time...and thats rich bearing in mind its a Tueday and everyone on here is wasting time anyway.

and funnily enough did yo make a comment about "taking the punishment" recently?????......one sec....

Tiggs

"oh yeah i drive fast too... speeds limits are a useful guide but wouldnt treat em us gospel. If i get caught then so be it... i know the risks, i'll accept the consequences"

not very accepting are you?

suprabeast

thats completely fine... and i stand by that comment completely... police pulling over cars for a number plate thats slightly wrong is a WASTE of police time period. you cant deny that fact. There ARE better things they could be doing with their time

suprabeast

thats a good point too, the comment was uncalled for .... too much coffee is the only excuse i can offer

pugoetru

I think they should waste some time stopping all the cool dudes with their foglights on at night at least they would be doing some good for other motorists eyes!!

Or is there no £30 fine for that one

Dracoro

Only a waste IN COMPARISON, not a waste per se.

OR how about this viewpoint. YOU are stopping the police doing proper policing by wasting THEIR time by having illegal plates which they are duty bound to sort from time to time.

Anyway, this is an argument posted on SN a lot (why aren't police catching 'proper' criminals etc.) but are missing the whole picture. 'minor' crimes have to be looked at as well as the rest. Put it this way, how would you like it if your car got nicked or vandalised and the police didn't do anything about it because YOU wanted them to sort proper crimes out. Can't have them looking for your car or the ****** that smashed it up when there's murders and rapes going on. Anway, the police DO prioritise things and clearly spend more time and resources investigating murders and suchlike than they do sorting out minor stuff. If they ignored all 'minor' crimes (and you'd have to define 'minor') we'd soon have a state in anarchy.


Personally, I don't mind mis-placed plates AS LONG AS the assigned letters/numbers are clear. e.g. DAV1D (or DAV 1D) is OK but D11V1D with a screwcap between the two 1's to make it look like an A is NOT. a 13 to look like a B is NOT either. Italics and hard to read fonts are a no no too. Also leads to the police not finding your car when it get's nicked as they are looking for the wrong one. Your mum/dad/sister/etc. get's run over and is paralised for life. Witnesses couldn't read the number plate properly and as a result could only give a 'guess' as to the numbers/letters on the car. A normal plate would have lead to the police finding the driver, however they can't so driver gets away with it. Yeah, so it really is a victimless crime isn't it

hail-hail

I agree, it is a generalisation, that's why I said 'more likely' and not 'all'

suprabeast

the police didnt even turn up when my car got broken in to. probably chasing some fool with a funny number plate... after all they had no cash to gain by coming to check the damage of my vehicle.

Dracoro

Or maybe they were busy sorting out a murder/rape/assault etc. at the time. Can't really judge unless you know now can you?

Now I do agree there are some discrepancies in the priorities with some forces, however that's not what's being discussed here on SN. People are talking about the police completely ignoring the crimes that they want to commit.

suprabeast

yeah but honestly fleeing the scene of an accident cannot be compared to having a iffy spaced number plate. And you could use your analogy on any crimes.

Dropping litter could cause someone to swerve and hit a bump in the road which then could knock over a group of school kids all crossing the road at that point in time, which could cause some of their parents to commit suicide because they can't handle the stress of loosing their children... one of the parents could try to kill themselves by jumping in front of a train travelling at 100mph, which could then come off of the rails and crash into an aquaduct destroying a vital supply of water to a nuclear power station causing and nuclear explosion wiping out the whole of england.... Hardly a victimless crime is dropping litter....

suprabeast

perhaps they were..... but i doubt it

Dracoro

Why do you doubt it?

Vette_76

suprabeast

because i have no faith in this country's judicial system and i believe that the police constantly are unperforming. the best way to make the figures look better is to attack the smaller crimes

Vette_76

Dracoro

I see you poing, however your example never happens. The not finding people as they've got an iffy plate DOES happen. Anyway, I think I know what you're alluding to and I agree to an extent. However my point is that minor crimes can't be completely ignored. Obviously they must have a lower priority but this is usually the case anyway. And in the case of scoobynet, the motivation is to 'stop' the police investing crimes that they commit. i.e. 'I' want the police to ignore crimes that 'I' commit. There's also the pathetic 'anti-police' element involved too I'm sure, but that's another thread.

pugoetru

The police do what their bosses are told to do and at the end of the day money is all they wan't so hit the motorist hardest

car gets stolen police recover charge YOU £120 FOR RECOVERY LOL
oh look no seatbelt £30
scammera fines etc etc

i cant type anymore its all been said before

I believe the police have no say in how they do their job or things WOULD be different

paul-s

fair enough on the fog lights, as it can be annoying and is unneccessary, however number plates are number plates, not an excuse for the police to waste loads of expense + time moaning about a bit of plastic just to earn a few quids for their force.

complete waste of time. fair enough you may think some people look pikey with iffy plates, so be it it's their life.

paul-s

it has all been said before and the the police prob do get told what to do by their bosses, ie get more fines money in...

if they took some police away from the unneccessary revenue raising traffic section and placed them on the streets in the rough estates, towns, high streets YOU tell me which would be better...

MarkO

Fecking hell, you lot really are a bunch of whining idiots, aren't you?

Illegally spaced plates are illegal. Fact. People who break the law can (and will) be prosecuted or punished. Fact.

All you idiots who complain the police should be 'catching real criminals' are talking cobblers - what you're basically saying is that some laws should be enforced, and some shouldn't. All well and good, except where do you draw the line?

Dropping litter may be seemingly trivial, but I think it's disgusting and people who do it should be penalised. If I can manage to put my rubbish in a bin, WTF can't everyone else?

Mis-spaced number plates could potentially stop a car being identified if involved in a crime. Might seem trivial, and most people with mis-spaced plates probably haven't done any other crime, but how do the police know unless they stop you and check? If they ignored all the cars, they might miss somebody who's intentionally made their plate hard-to-read.

Laws are there to be upheld. You can't pick and choose which ones to abide by or which ones should be policed. If you don't agree with the law, lobby your MP, or get elected. If the law is wrong enough, you'll get into power and can question the law. But if you can't be arsed to do any of that, don't complain.

I got done for doing 80mph on a motorway the other week (as posted here). Very annoying, but I know I was speeding (if only by a small amount) so unfortunately, I can't argue the toss. The rest of you should follow my lead concentrate your efforts into stuff which is a bit more important.

paul-s

some very fair comments there, good points

cant remember tho but didnt your thread about Got caught at 80mph invoke lots of moanin because you brought the subject up tho ?

Tiggs

answers on a postcard?

wrxmike

MarkO

Don't think so. There were a few comments that it was a bit harsh, but nothing too strong. Have a look yourself.

paul-s

Got nicked for doing 80mph on the M6 last Tuesday. How ridiculous.
It's totally daft IMO.

these quotes contradict you saying a laws a law no questions, illegal is illegal and all that....does it not ?