police take pics lol
23 March 2005, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Peanuts
Flamer kits lol
as bad as VTA's
trying to make your car out to be something it is not, a rally car
pure filthy chav, and to make matters worse you wasted the time of the officers and you prevented them from doing other jobs.
if you didnt have your dodgy chav flamer and number plate and everyone else didnt speed then these officers could be deployed to what you consider a more useful task.
maybe the problem with these sort of chav items (VTA's/Flamers etc) is that you are more concerned looking over your shoulder/rear view to see the flames or getting up a head of pressure to let it all whoosh out thereby taking your attention away from, lets be honest, probably the most dangerous thing we do, drive a ton of various metals at ludicrous speeds with potentially fatal consequences.
is your keyboard broken by the way?
it appears to be missing the letter "g"
as bad as VTA's
trying to make your car out to be something it is not, a rally car
pure filthy chav, and to make matters worse you wasted the time of the officers and you prevented them from doing other jobs.
if you didnt have your dodgy chav flamer and number plate and everyone else didnt speed then these officers could be deployed to what you consider a more useful task.
maybe the problem with these sort of chav items (VTA's/Flamers etc) is that you are more concerned looking over your shoulder/rear view to see the flames or getting up a head of pressure to let it all whoosh out thereby taking your attention away from, lets be honest, probably the most dangerous thing we do, drive a ton of various metals at ludicrous speeds with potentially fatal consequences.
is your keyboard broken by the way?
it appears to be missing the letter "g"
Oh, and has your shift key / caps lock stopped working?
(\pedantic mode off)
23 March 2005, 05:33 PM
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Im now a young bloke in a max powered scooby
Hardly see how a RB5 with flamer kit on is that but what do i know
Like the bit that im young though
Hardly see how a RB5 with flamer kit on is that but what do i know
Like the bit that im young though
23 March 2005, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
You seem to be suggesting that the purpose of a stop under S163 can be to hopefully detect crimes other than those relating to the RTA - is that the correct interpretation of the law?
I would have thought that a Court would take a dim view of a police officer saying that he stopped a vehicle 'without reason'.
Just interested, not trying to start an arguement
I would have thought that a Court would take a dim view of a police officer saying that he stopped a vehicle 'without reason'.
Just interested, not trying to start an arguement
I've been to court a few times having stopped someone using 163 and then finding something that led them getting arrested and they were convicted.
163 is simply a tool to use to make people stop.
23 March 2005, 05:44 PM
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there should be less of an effort/focus on easy target motorists + more bobbys on the street in the rough estates, late at night, etc. Think of this, if one of your relatives had been burgled and attacked and that night there were not enough police on the beat, as a visible deterrant, all that would happen is they'd turn up late, take a report and **** off to the donut van/chasing motorists again. FFS can't anyone see that its resources deployed in the wrong area
Yeah.....great idea.
Lets put the whole force out on foot in one estste. The burglar will bound to target the estate on that night. Or will he sod off some place else.
Or will he nick a car instead - because there is no traffic cover tonight.
Most burglars are caught by forensics and intelligence - not by walking into one.
Oh and there are officers given specific tasks to lock up criminals for DNA hits - or should they be put on the beat as well
23 March 2005, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
Yeah.....great idea.
Lets put the whole force out on foot in one estste. The burglar will bound to target the estate on that night. Or will he sod off some place else.
Or will he nick a car instead - because there is no traffic cover tonight.
Most burglars are caught by forensics and intelligence - not by walking into one.
Oh and there are officers given specific tasks to lock up criminals for DNA hits - or should they be put on the beat as well
Lets put the whole force out on foot in one estste. The burglar will bound to target the estate on that night. Or will he sod off some place else.
Or will he nick a car instead - because there is no traffic cover tonight.
Most burglars are caught by forensics and intelligence - not by walking into one.
Oh and there are officers given specific tasks to lock up criminals for DNA hits - or should they be put on the beat as well
23 March 2005, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DazW
Which actual law do flamer kits contravene? ...Apart from the good taste one, obviously?
Seriously, I can’t find anything on t'internet???
Seriously, I can’t find anything on t'internet???
It'll come under construction and use, probably.
23 March 2005, 05:56 PM
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Mouse,
Don't bite mate, can't you smell a little pork around here mate??
I think this thread is as funny as **** TBH. The porkers are biting and trying to justify their existance in a motoring car forum. Bad move really, as they're very unlikely to get support from the majority of people on here.
Like the comment about them being gatherers of information from informents
I saw the Police camera van driving around Yate today, with four people on board. Surely this is a waste of Police resources??? Perhaps not, maybe there were scared of all the Chav boyracers around this area, and were holding hands
I have NO respect for the local Police around here, after a number of recent events that I'm not going into. Oh and it fine for them to get adrenalined up and drive like absolute ****, in TD estate cars that aren't designed to be driving like that. Might be off to nick someone for no tax on their car (as they might have forgotten to renew it) or back to the station for a coffee, with the blues on driving on the wrong side of the road at great speed
Police coppers, well don't even get me started.
BTW, did Mouse not say his flamer kit was OFF??? His car has been over-fueling lately due to a check engine light.
Phill
PS I first thought flamer kits were ****e, until I drove a few scoobies with them on. They're great for getting boy racers off your tails
Don't bite mate, can't you smell a little pork around here mate??
I think this thread is as funny as **** TBH. The porkers are biting and trying to justify their existance in a motoring car forum. Bad move really, as they're very unlikely to get support from the majority of people on here.
Like the comment about them being gatherers of information from informents
I saw the Police camera van driving around Yate today, with four people on board. Surely this is a waste of Police resources??? Perhaps not, maybe there were scared of all the Chav boyracers around this area, and were holding hands
I have NO respect for the local Police around here, after a number of recent events that I'm not going into. Oh and it fine for them to get adrenalined up and drive like absolute ****, in TD estate cars that aren't designed to be driving like that. Might be off to nick someone for no tax on their car (as they might have forgotten to renew it) or back to the station for a coffee, with the blues on driving on the wrong side of the road at great speed
Police coppers, well don't even get me started.
BTW, did Mouse not say his flamer kit was OFF??? His car has been over-fueling lately due to a check engine light.
Phill
PS I first thought flamer kits were ****e, until I drove a few scoobies with them on. They're great for getting boy racers off your tails
23 March 2005, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by babber
Mouse,
Don't bite mate, can't you smell a little pork around here mate??
I think this thread is as funny as **** TBH. The porkers are biting and trying to justify their existance in a motoring car forum. Bad move really, as they're very unlikely to get support from the majority of people on here.
Like the comment about them being gatherers of information from informents
I saw the Police camera van driving around Yate today, with four people on board. Surely this is a waste of Police resources??? Perhaps not, maybe there were scared of all the Chav boyracers around this area, and were holding hands
I have NO respect for the local Police around here, after a number of recent events that I'm not going into. Oh and it fine for them to get adrenalined up and drive like absolute ****, in TD estate cars that aren't designed to be driving like that. Might be off to nick someone for no tax on their car (as they might have forgotten to renew it) or back to the station for a coffee, with the blues on driving on the wrong side of the road at great speed
Police coppers, well don't even get me started.
BTW, did Mouse not say his flamer kit was OFF??? His car has been over-fueling lately due to a check engine light.
Phill
PS I first thought flamer kits were ****e, until I drove a few scoobies with them on. They're great for getting boy racers off your tails
Don't bite mate, can't you smell a little pork around here mate??
I think this thread is as funny as **** TBH. The porkers are biting and trying to justify their existance in a motoring car forum. Bad move really, as they're very unlikely to get support from the majority of people on here.
Like the comment about them being gatherers of information from informents
I saw the Police camera van driving around Yate today, with four people on board. Surely this is a waste of Police resources??? Perhaps not, maybe there were scared of all the Chav boyracers around this area, and were holding hands
I have NO respect for the local Police around here, after a number of recent events that I'm not going into. Oh and it fine for them to get adrenalined up and drive like absolute ****, in TD estate cars that aren't designed to be driving like that. Might be off to nick someone for no tax on their car (as they might have forgotten to renew it) or back to the station for a coffee, with the blues on driving on the wrong side of the road at great speed
Police coppers, well don't even get me started.
BTW, did Mouse not say his flamer kit was OFF??? His car has been over-fueling lately due to a check engine light.
Phill
PS I first thought flamer kits were ****e, until I drove a few scoobies with them on. They're great for getting boy racers off your tails
23 March 2005, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
163 is simply a power to stop vehicles. What you find after that is down to luck.
I've been to court a few times having stopped someone using 163 and then finding something that led them getting arrested and they were convicted.
163 is simply a tool to use to make people stop.
I've been to court a few times having stopped someone using 163 and then finding something that led them getting arrested and they were convicted.
163 is simply a tool to use to make people stop.
Incidentally, once you've stopped them, do you need reasonable grounds to search the vehicle/person?
23 March 2005, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
Not sure you've really answered my questions, but thanks anyway
Incidentally, once you've stopped them, do you need reasonable grounds to search the vehicle/person?
Incidentally, once you've stopped them, do you need reasonable grounds to search the vehicle/person?
Once stopped you do indeed have to have reasonable grounds to search either the driver, any passengers and the vehicle. These are recorded and a copy should be offered to the person.
You don't have to have grounds to look through the window though
23 March 2005, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
Not sure you've really answered my questions, but thanks anyway
Incidentally, once you've stopped them, do you need reasonable grounds to search the vehicle/person?
Incidentally, once you've stopped them, do you need reasonable grounds to search the vehicle/person?
Phill
23 March 2005, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
You don't have to have any justification to use 163.
Once stopped you do indeed have to have reasonable grounds to search either the driver, any passengers and the vehicle. These are recorded and a copy should be offered to the person.
You don't have to have grounds to look through the window though
Once stopped you do indeed have to have reasonable grounds to search either the driver, any passengers and the vehicle. These are recorded and a copy should be offered to the person.
You don't have to have grounds to look through the window though
I thought there were 3 reasons from what i can remember.
drugs
terrorism
cant remember
23 March 2005, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by babber
Can't they do what they want now, and just say they thought you were a terrorist?
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Only if S44 of PACE is in place.
It only applies to certain areas of the country and changes on a daily rate.
23 March 2005, 06:10 PM
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I bet most the people bleating about being persecuted (look up the term btw) motorists will bleat that they'd be persecuted pedestrians when all the traffic police are on the beat.
I agree that there's a degree of getting easy money with speed cameras etc. However this isn't the same with being pulled over for dodgy plates, flamer kits, general bad driving etc. If the motivation was really money in the coffers then they'd just go for the speeders, far easier and more productive. It's these types of pulls that catch the ******* that nicked YOUR car else they'd never find them. Anyway, I thought this was the type of traffic policing you all wanted rather than catching speeders??? don't wanna get pulled over? Simple, ditch the iffy plates and flamer kits etc. Keep them and you take the risk.
Hey, I'm sure there's a few jobsworth policemen out there and the odd dodgy one, however these are FAR outnumbered by ******* on the road.
I agree that there's a degree of getting easy money with speed cameras etc. However this isn't the same with being pulled over for dodgy plates, flamer kits, general bad driving etc. If the motivation was really money in the coffers then they'd just go for the speeders, far easier and more productive. It's these types of pulls that catch the ******* that nicked YOUR car else they'd never find them. Anyway, I thought this was the type of traffic policing you all wanted rather than catching speeders??? don't wanna get pulled over? Simple, ditch the iffy plates and flamer kits etc. Keep them and you take the risk.
Hey, I'm sure there's a few jobsworth policemen out there and the odd dodgy one, however these are FAR outnumbered by ******* on the road.
23 March 2005, 06:10 PM
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Which actual law do flamer kits contravene? ...Apart from the good taste one, obviously?
23 March 2005, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobydooooo
that is exactly my thought , if i saw somebody with a flaming idiot kit , i'd be tempted to make a citizens arrest for " being of unsound mind during the hours of daylight !!"
cheer up mate it's almost a bank holiday
23 March 2005, 07:40 PM
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I find the likelyhood of recieving a producer or fine depends a lot on your attitude. I have been pulled several times, occaisonally having been bending a law, and have never had a producer or fine. But I tend to be polite, respectful and know when I'm in the wrong. It sounds like the 20 minutes would have been 2 minutes with a different attitude.....
23 March 2005, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by m18use
They must of been bored yesterday ,drivin through bristol centre yesterday afternoon.Police in camera van in lane next to me swerve in behind with the lights goin pointing at me to pull over and there is nowhere to go,so eventually pull in .Then get, your car is spitting out flames ,its a public hazard To which i start laughin and say oh well it must be overfuelling,then because im laughin he gets stropy,tells me to get in the van and starts going on about no -plates ,and is takin pics of the back luckily no flames then (flamer kit off ) End with VDR (complete waste of time as mate MOT tester)
and a producer.This must of taken 20 mins of 2 policemans time .Which in bristol there was probaly 10 muggins and 5 murders .What a complete waste of time
To which i start laughin and say oh well it must be overfuelling,then because im laughin he gets stropy,tells me to get in the van and starts going on about no -plates ,and is takin pics of the back luckily no flames then (flamer kit off ) End with VDR (complete waste of time as mate MOT tester)and a producer.This must of taken 20 mins of 2 policemans time .Which in bristol there was probaly 10 muggins and 5 murders .What a complete waste of time
lol
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