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Old 27 March 2005, 10:41 AM
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Few, I thought you'd actually measured it for a minute The only real way to measure fuel consumption is to do a brim to brim. The trip computer can be 'driven around' to get some spectacular figures on short trips or 'snap shots' of trips.

I think you'll find that the real MPG is a lot lower for whole tank fulls, where you do town stuff, short trips and the country blasts. I bet you'll get anywhere between 37 and 45 normally. I fell for the amazing turbo diesel mith and found out how you really had to drive to get good figures - yawn. The benefit from modern TDi's is that 35MPG + is a reality on most tank fulls and if you're careful then 40-45MPG is within reach.

65MPG my ****

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Old 27 March 2005, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Floyd
Few, I thought you'd actually measured it for a minute The only real way to measure fuel consumption is to do a brim to brim. The trip computer can be 'driven around' to get some spectacular figures on short trips or 'snap shots' of trips.

I think you'll find that the real MPG is a lot lower for whole tank fulls, where you do town stuff, short trips and the country blasts. I bet you'll get anywhere between 37 and 45 normally. I fell for the amazing turbo diesel mith and found out how you really had to drive to get good figures - yawn. The benefit from modern TDi's is that 35MPG + is a reality on most tank fulls and if you're careful then 40-45MPG is within reach.

65MPG my ****

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Not really a myth, depends where you live.. I thrash over the North York moors every day to work in a Golf PD150, and generally average around 45mpg, but this can easily be low 50's still driving at 80ish... If I go on a longer run, without the hills, then 60Mpg is achievable, but only just..

For the record the fuel computers are pretty accurate, I find that they are at worst 2mpg optimistic when compared with a "brim to brim" calc...

Still miss the Scoob (obviously!), but wouldnt go back.. Worst mpg ive averaged on a trip was 35mpg, while playing with a new-age impreza, and yes, there were "twisties" involved , cant have been wet enough!!

Worst thing about these posts is that they are aleays about MPG, when to me thats just a bonus.. They are a good, well built, high torque car, and very easy to drive quickly without knowing you are doing it.. The PD150 inherits better suspension which helps too...



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Old 27 March 2005, 11:34 AM
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I'm still talking about whole tankfulls here, not short trips. Lol @ quite accurate trip computer I'll believe it when I see it.

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Old 27 March 2005, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Floyd
I'm still talking about whole tankfulls here, not short trips. Lol @ quite accurate trip computer I'll believe it when I see it.

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Ok, accurateish

Full tank I usually get around 450-500 miles, which is around £43.. But a lot of people get 550 miles +, or so they tell me! Im prob not the best advert for mpg though..

Getting it "Revo'd" in the next couple of weeks, oh and an account with Kwik-Fit......
Old 27 March 2005, 12:05 PM
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I average 38-39 from a GT TDi,anyone getting anywhere 65 is driving like under 2500 revs and quite possibly a bit pouffy as well
Old 27 March 2005, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dba
no I wouldn't and no it wouldn't,
yes u would dba. if u look in magazines like Autocar it lists 0-100 times. the 0-100 time for a vw golf tdi130 is 25.5 secs. looking at a tesst on a my98 uk turbo scoob its 14.9secs! the difference accelerating to 120 would be even greater as well so under extreme acceleration taking out 5-6 cars on a shotish straight any tdi is obviously not going to be able to take out the same number of cars even tdi 150 or a chipped one. as i said i do like tdis and they do have much better low rev response but as i said i was talking about maximum acceleration. have driven my brothers new tdi140 and its great for whizzing past a couple of cars in 5th or 6th even but theres no way it would be able to make some of the more "extreme" overtakes i do in the scooby some times as even if it was only 2 car lenghts behind it would be mash! no, its a bit reckless, but hey, i drive like that sometimes
Old 27 March 2005, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mattvortex
yes u would dba. if u look in magazines like Autocar it lists 0-100 times. the 0-100 time for a vw golf tdi130 is 25.5 secs. looking at a tesst on a my98 uk turbo scoob its 14.9secs! the difference accelerating to 120 would be even greater as well so under extreme acceleration taking out 5-6 cars on a shotish straight any tdi is obviously not going to be able to take out the same number of cars even tdi 150 or a chipped one. as i said i do like tdis and they do have much better low rev response but as i said i was talking about maximum acceleration. have driven my brothers new tdi140 and its great for whizzing past a couple of cars in 5th or 6th even but theres no way it would be able to make some of the more "extreme" overtakes i do in the scooby some times as even if it was only 2 car lenghts behind it would be mash! no, its a bit reckless, but hey, i drive like that sometimes
Hmmmm
sorry m8 but you are doubting the power of a chipped golf a chipped new shape golf gt tdi has ludicrous torque and amazing overtaking potential
torque in the same leagues as an m3 actually
Old 27 March 2005, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Floyd
Few, I thought you'd actually measured it for a minute The only real way to measure fuel consumption is to do a brim to brim. The trip computer can be 'driven around' to get some spectacular figures on short trips or 'snap shots' of trips.

I think you'll find that the real MPG is a lot lower for whole tank fulls, where you do town stuff, short trips and the country blasts. I bet you'll get anywhere between 37 and 45 normally. I fell for the amazing turbo diesel mith and found out how you really had to drive to get good figures - yawn. The benefit from modern TDi's is that 35MPG + is a reality on most tank fulls and if you're careful then 40-45MPG is within reach.

65MPG my ****

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I was on about a 200 mile trip, hardly a short trip to the shops The reason I bought a diesel was for motorway munching and good residual/reliability/MPG. I didn't buy one to hack about in like a loon, that's what i have a P1 for Although I certainly dont hang about in the Golf, it's a nice torquey drive, and the chip makes a big difference.

I know what i see on the trip computer, and it has seen 65 MPG on a few occasions, and not the one that takes a reading every few seconds.

Obviously on an urban mix the mgp will be lower, but as I bought it for motorways, Im not that concerned.
Old 27 March 2005, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by EXSCOOBY
Hmmmm
sorry m8 but you are doubting the power of a chipped golf a chipped new shape golf gt tdi has ludicrous torque and amazing overtaking potential
torque in the same leagues as an m3 actually
teh torque figure is irrelevent for the moves i was talking about( great for towing a caravan though1!)
Old 27 March 2005, 02:08 PM
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sad sad sad
the build quality on the golf is so fsr ahead of the scooby its not funny
and the performance versus economy is unbelieveable
Old 27 March 2005, 02:39 PM
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Scoobynutter, reset the fuel computer when you fill up and let us know what it says before you refill when it's very empty. On my old GSI cav I could reset the fule comp on cruise and ten minutes later I could get 50MPG out of the car so excuse me If I find your method a little flawed

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Old 27 March 2005, 02:43 PM
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Before Id have less mileage before i hit halfway on the guage than I do now, nothing flawed with that. ill let you know when Ive done a full tank, but with the high mpg it might be a while
Old 27 March 2005, 03:06 PM
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Matt

we will agree to disagree on this one I don't think the torque is irrelevant,30-70 in a standard GT TDi would take it past several cars,but chip it with BP Ultimate Diesel and Millers Diesel plus and it will fly past
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Originally Posted by EXSCOOBY
sad sad sad
the build quality on the golf is so fsr ahead of the scooby its not funny
and the performance versus economy is unbelieveable
so the golf has better grade plastic on the dash-wow! and i could be getting double the mpg in the golf- will go and buy one tommorow-NOT! would be a boring world if we all had the same taste in cars so you keep getting a hard-on with your mpg figures and bulletproof build and ill stick with my car of choice
Old 27 March 2005, 03:50 PM
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Matt is correct,all this talk of mpg is embarassing,its far better to chat about the mighty GTs Scooby slaying capabilities
Old 27 March 2005, 03:52 PM
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Old 27 March 2005, 10:43 PM
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Just scalped a mk4 Gti with the TDi today. He looked a bit miffed - LOL. Breath my black oil burner cancer fumes you loser - Diesel Power all the way - get a proper car
Old 28 March 2005, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Boost II
Just scalped a mk4 Gti with the TDi today. He looked a bit miffed - LOL. Breath my black oil burner cancer fumes you loser - Diesel Power all the way - get a proper car

hahaha awesome quote
Old 28 March 2005, 09:18 AM
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Just to add my 2p's worth.

I have a GTi 150bhp Golf, which has been re-mapped (well custom mapped on the road) to 195bhp/285lbft.

I always reset the computer every tankful and I manage at least 45-47mpg. That is based on decentish journeys (average of 30 miles each way on mainly trunk roads to work) giving it death makes it fall within the above figures across a tankful. Easing off (but still giving it a far bit) returns me 48-51mpg.

Excellent car as the daily slogger.

But..... if I want some real fun I have to get the Scoob out!
Old 28 March 2005, 06:50 PM
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Are people actually working the mpg out or using the computer?? After a remap, the average mpg is VERY optimistic - like anything up to 15% optimistic...

We've got a Fabia vRS which is lighter than a GT TDI and has the MK4 Golf engine - it does a (real) 50 mpg on a run (showing 55 - 58mpg on trip).

Don't know were some of you get these figures from...

Fill tank, reset trip, DRIVE, refill tank and take note of reading on trip...
Old 28 March 2005, 09:20 PM
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I would have spent the money on a longer garage
Old 29 March 2005, 08:14 PM
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Jamesemt,

I travel over 500miles per week and I return between 470-510 miles (dependant on driving) just prior to the fuel light coming on.... do the maths, as you will see it is not that far out!

Regards,
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Old 01 April 2005, 07:02 AM
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Is that an 80 litre tank Shaun?

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PS Jamesemt is correct!
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