Bye bye STi, hello M3 CSL
15 April 2005, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
much better than any scoob on the road ....... and yes even the spec C
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...............do the jap sti (old) have cardboard floors...
16 April 2005, 05:05 PM
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Its very expensive for what you get, considering its what? nearly 50k new compared to the standard M3 which is 37k (oh and they depreciate faster than an STi 
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16 April 2005, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Its very expensive for what you get, considering its what? nearly 50k new compared to the standard M3 which is 37k (oh and they depreciate faster than an STi )
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I would agree with that comment Tony, however second hand they are coming into reachable territory for most and I would think that most of the depreciation is gone. You cant say that about a scoob now can you
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18 April 2005, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Patt@firstime
PHOTOS!?!
http://www.autodoplnky.cz/picture/wa...sl_01_1024.jpg
http://www.wallpaper.net.au/wallpape...%20800x600.jpg
http://www.oestevirtual.com/paginas/...al_1024opt.jpg (ouch
)http://www2.uol.com.br/bestcars/carr...m3-csl-int.jpg
18 April 2005, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosworth427
I bet it isnt as quick as your STi in the "real world".
18 April 2005, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jk100
As above really. Traded in the STi 7 for an 04 BMW M3 CSL this weekend, and so far I'm really pretty impressed....
BTW, if anyone comes across my old car CK02 CNY, it has the wrong rear windscreen in! Long story but the useles muppets at Autoglass fitted a standard WRX screen (no aerial) after the original was shattered by a loose stone, and I could not find the day or so needed to have the correct one refitted. Uninsured, I think the cost to replace is £400 and somehow I forgot to mention this on trade-in.
Otherwise it is an excellent car, very well looked after, and given my trade-in price is a bit of a bargain!
BTW, if anyone comes across my old car CK02 CNY, it has the wrong rear windscreen in! Long story but the useles muppets at Autoglass fitted a standard WRX screen (no aerial) after the original was shattered by a loose stone, and I could not find the day or so needed to have the correct one refitted. Uninsured, I think the cost to replace is £400 and somehow I forgot to mention this on trade-in.
Otherwise it is an excellent car, very well looked after, and given my trade-in price is a bit of a bargain!
19 April 2005, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Edcase
Did these only come with SMG???
Is it ok?
Is it ok?
It is meant to be pretty good. I'm yet to try it in the CSL so can't give a personal opinion.
As a general rule:
2/3 of me thinks it takes a chunk of the experience away.
1/3 is nagging away, trying to convince me it adds something.
???
19 April 2005, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by skoda_kid
Hmmmm, no pics now in over a week.
Anyone else think that maybe he dreamt all this??
Anyone else think that maybe he dreamt all this??
19 April 2005, 10:40 AM
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Something about 'jealousy and its ugly head'.
Just want to see piccys thats all, surely if he can afford a CSL he can afford a digi cam??
19 April 2005, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by skoda_kid
i havnt got a reason to be jealous, i drive around in a skoda FFS, why should i be jealous?!
Just want to see piccys thats all, surely if he can afford a CSL he can afford a digi cam??
Just want to see piccys thats all, surely if he can afford a CSL he can afford a digi cam??
19 April 2005, 03:24 PM
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Sorry, no pics as I left my digital camera at my parents house by mistake and I won't be back for another couple of weeks.
However it looks like any other CSL - silver grey with CSL alloys. In fact it's identical to this:
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/bmw_m3csl.asp
Just getting used to the SMG - faster gear changes for sure, but it does feel like you're driving a playstation sometimes. Although the stakes are a little higher of course. And I can't deny that I do miss having a clutch.
However it looks like any other CSL - silver grey with CSL alloys. In fact it's identical to this:
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/bmw_m3csl.asp
Just getting used to the SMG - faster gear changes for sure, but it does feel like you're driving a playstation sometimes. Although the stakes are a little higher of course. And I can't deny that I do miss having a clutch.
19 April 2005, 04:16 PM
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Just checked that site and if it's correct then most high end scoobs shouldn't have too much of a problem beating it off the line....
Performance
Acceleration 0-62 mph s: 4.9
Top Speed mph (km/h): 155 (250)
Fuel Economy EPA city/highway mpg (l/100 km): 16/24 (11.9)
Not sure on the Spec C but know the P1 and 22B are around 4.5 secs 0-62, quicker than the CLS if those firgure are correct. Top end 70 - 155 might be another matter thou.
Performance
Acceleration 0-62 mph s: 4.9
Top Speed mph (km/h): 155 (250)
Fuel Economy EPA city/highway mpg (l/100 km): 16/24 (11.9)
Not sure on the Spec C but know the P1 and 22B are around 4.5 secs 0-62, quicker than the CLS if those firgure are correct. Top end 70 - 155 might be another matter thou.
19 April 2005, 04:45 PM
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Yes, I think you're right. 0-60 performance figures don't look astonishing for the CSL over an STi. However coming straight out of the STi and into the CSL, I can simply say that the torque, acceleration (and noise) are in a different league. Of course whether this translates into a faster A-B car I don't know - maybe not in the hands of a novice like me. It certainly doesn't flatter your driving like the Scoob. But who cares - for a sense of occasion and experience the CSL wins hands down!
19 April 2005, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jk100
Yes, I think you're right. 0-60 performance figures don't look astonishing for the CSL over an STi. However coming straight out of the STi and into the CSL, I can simply say that the torque, acceleration (and noise) are in a different league. Of course whether this translates into a faster A-B car I don't know - maybe not in the hands of a novice like me. It certainly doesn't flatter your driving like the Scoob. But who cares - for a sense of occasion and experience the CSL wins hands down!