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Old 22 April 2005, 03:01 PM
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Yes you do get the blip, exactly the same as heel toe ing.
Old 22 April 2005, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulMc
Davyboy, yes you do and boy can they make bystanders turn and stare. More so than my P1 full decat ever did. They think a F1 car is coming down the high st. ;-), especially at 22:30hrs after a hard blat and eveything is hot
Especially with pagid rs-19 pads!

I also came to a M3 from a P1.
Old 22 April 2005, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulMc
Davyboy, yes you do and boy can they make bystanders turn and stare. More so than my P1 full decat ever did. They think a F1 car is coming down the high st. ;-), especially at 22:30hrs after a hard blat and eveything is hot
excuse me while I go and take a cold shower
Old 22 April 2005, 07:38 PM
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I love these cars, there's a couple around where i live and the noise is just ****!

Theres also one for sale round here for 42,000 brick, only done 7000 miles too

Tempting to say the least
Old 22 April 2005, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobygav555
I love these cars, there's a couple around where i live and the noise is just ****!

Theres also one for sale round here for 42,000 brick, only done 7000 miles too

Tempting to say the least
Yes I;ve seen one for the same, with only 2500 miles!!!!
Old 23 April 2005, 11:21 AM
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Serious depreciation (sp?) that is but like said will even out after the initial drop
Old 24 April 2005, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Edcase
back on topic for a second, which tyres are the owners on here using?

turned out my old evo with the group test between the M3 CSL, the gt3 and the spec c. it seems they were initially overwhelmed by the CSL, but eventually they found it slightly flawed, largely it seems because of the super sticky tyres which allowed you to find superhuman levels of grip but then potentially causing problems at and just over the limit. it would be interesting to know how the car behaves on less specialist rubber, although that is compromising the very essence of the car, bringing it back closer still to standard M3.

having said that, at 40k for a mint 2nd hand example, it is only the cost of a new standard M3 anyway....
I have just put the cups back on mine this weekend, tend to alternate depending on the weather! I also have a set of pZero's on a second set of alloys for wet use. Beat of both worlds. A second set of CSL alloys with tyres will set you back around £1,500

The car is obviously more tricky at the limit on the cups but the car is travelling so much faster at this point you have to expect it will bit you quicker. To be honest is you are approaching the cups grip levels on the public road you need to calm down a little

If i have the cups on i will always drive in Mtrack mode, but if i have the pirellis on, on a nice day all traction controls are off.

I have also had the negative camber done on mine which sharpens up the steering no end, but makes the car a little fussy on motorways. Costs around 200 at a dealership
Old 24 April 2005, 07:49 PM
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Where can you get the CSL wheels from matey??? I love them and was wondering if they'd fit my E46 3 series or would they be too wide??

Gav..
Old 24 April 2005, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobygav555
Where can you get the CSL wheels from matey??? I love them and was wondering if they'd fit my E46 3 series or would they be too wide??

Gav..
Bought mine direct from BMW, but you can get second hand sets from private sellers around BMW car clubs etc.

Unsure as to whether or not they would fit a regular E46 though, i doubt it
Old 24 April 2005, 10:06 PM
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I think this thread should be locked. Never really thought about a CSL before, now I'm being tempted!!!

Does anybody know how many of these cars made?
Old 24 April 2005, 10:58 PM
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originally meant to be 50 here, but they made 450 hence the higher than expected initial depreciation.

I'm almost certainly getting one. Testing a normal m3 smg next week.
Old 25 April 2005, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
I think this thread should be locked. Never really thought about a CSL before, now I'm being tempted!!!

Does anybody know how many of these cars made?
6 !
Old 25 April 2005, 09:01 AM
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I didnt think they would mate to be honest but hey ho, looks like i just need to buy a CSL instead
Old 25 April 2005, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Edcase
originally meant to be 50 here, but they made 450 hence the higher than expected initial depreciation.

I'm almost certainly getting one. Testing a normal m3 smg next week.
Says who
Old 25 April 2005, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by NOZZER
Says who
Hey you can't back out now, 30,000 people on scoobynet saw you say I could
Old 25 April 2005, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobydooooo
6 !
Why 6?
Old 26 April 2005, 11:15 AM
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why not ? first number that came into my head after 9 pints of lager
Old 26 April 2005, 12:25 PM
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can't put original csl wheels on a non m3 e46. slightly different fitment. Your wheel arches will need extending outwards. Best bet is to get csl rep ones, much cheaper too.
Old 29 April 2005, 09:01 AM
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Where can you get these from mate??? I thought they'd be too wide but worth a shot!

I saw a guy before with a CSL but he had normal M3 rims on!! IMHO the CSL's are far nicer!

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Old 29 April 2005, 09:14 AM
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Gav

He probably has two sets of rims. The CSL's with Michelin Cups for playtime and the M3 rims for everyday use.
Old 29 April 2005, 09:55 AM
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Default I've just bought an M5 and am in love !!

Yep, selling my toyed with WRX in the classified section on here. Replaced with a lovely, uber-quick M5....without a doubt fastest car i've ever owned - and i can take the inlaws out in at the same time !!!! amazing...lol. Seriously though it's quicker than my F355...0-60, 0-100 and top end....unreal.
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Originally Posted by whiteyisback
Yep, selling my toyed with WRX in the classified section on here. Replaced with a lovely, uber-quick M5....without a doubt fastest car i've ever owned - and i can take the inlaws out in at the same time !!!! amazing...lol. Seriously though it's quicker than my F355...0-60, 0-100 and top end....unreal.
Another M5 owner on here, friends thoughts I was crazy selling a 52 plate car (LCR) and buying a W reg "old timer" M5, sooner stopped laughing when they travelled in it, best car I have ever owner (and that includes 2 scoobies bought from new)
Old 29 April 2005, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobygav555
Where can you get these from mate??? I thought they'd be too wide but worth a shot!

I saw a guy before with a CSL but he had normal M3 rims on!! IMHO the CSL's are far nicer!

Gav..
Try http://www.bm3w.com in the trader forum.
The everyday 19's are a pain in the a##e, only really add bling and not as good a ride as the standard 18's, part polished part painted and only about 3 places in the south of England to get dinks repaired as I found to my cost when my wife kerbed both nearside 19's on my Cab.

Be wary of buying repaired OEM 19's!

The repair process involves milling the rim back to remove the damage. Do that more than once and you start to get flat spots on the rim plus the OEM wheel has a small plastic M insert, this limits how many times you can mill the rim. Once the M badge is proud, that's it, no more repairs.
Old 30 April 2005, 10:45 AM
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Any pics?
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Lovely car but i don't like the footballer image they have.

STI 9 Please !
Old 30 April 2005, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by punkie
Lovely car but i don't like the footballer image they have.

STI 9 Please !
rather footballer than chav
Old 30 April 2005, 02:09 PM
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wow this thread has nearly 10k views!!
Old 30 April 2005, 05:26 PM
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everyone on here seems loaded....I feel a little inferior lol...however being only 23 I have a 7 yr plan to build my little empire!!
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Originally Posted by Patt@firstime
rather footballer than chav
Indeed!
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Originally Posted by Pants On Fire
Try http://www.bm3w.com in the trader forum.
The everyday 19's are a pain in the a##e, only really add bling and not as good a ride as the standard 18's, part polished part painted and only about 3 places in the south of England to get dinks repaired as I found to my cost when my wife kerbed both nearside 19's on my Cab.

Be wary of buying repaired OEM 19's!

The repair process involves milling the rim back to remove the damage. Do that more than once and you start to get flat spots on the rim plus the OEM wheel has a small plastic M insert, this limits how many times you can mill the rim. Once the M badge is proud, that's it, no more repairs.
Yup - same thing happened to my GT3RS - right royal pain in the ***.
£1000 replacement


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