Bubba po

It's only £80, Pete.

You're right, though. You would notice trouble with running if it was grumbling. Change it at the first signs. Mine was on its way out at 70k.

pslewis

Yes, lean is weak, surely that would be noticeable BEFORE the engine destroys itself??

Anyway, these MAF failures are closely accompanied by some Induction Kit or some such Mod.

There are 1,000's of standard cars running around with no trouble whatsoever with their MAFs ................... 48,000 members on here, about 40,000 have modified cars? 20 or 30 had MAF failures?

I'm not saying I shouldn't change it should I notice some idle problems ..... but, forgive me if I don't throw £70 chasing a scare story

Cheers all the same - I might be here in a weeks time saying my MAF went BANG and within 50 yards and 3 seconds my engine was destroyed

Either way, the £1233 for 1 years warranty would seem to be an unwise investment?

Pete

dpb

ffs .............80..notes for some piece omind......<shakes head>...oh well.

Subaru4u (len).........serviced /ex the exhaust etc on my sti..... last spring ....and was workin from home in Thatcham.....

richie rich

now next to newbury football club

dpb

fare 'nuff......

pslewis

Maybe I should change my battery, only £80 .... peace o mind??

The Alternator maybe? only £190 .... peace o mind??

Head Gasket? That can cause a warped head Change it for peace o mind??

I don't throw £80 away easily ....... it needs to be working for me

Maybe the £1233 for 1 years peace o mind??

Pete

dpb

yes but, as far as i understand it, its only the maf failure that can cause catastrophic damage and as said it can be impossible to spot its going wrong.........although 98 cars are the worst i believe. All assuming the car has all the right fluids/levels and the cambelt changed......

pslewis

Cambelt changed last year, all fluids and spark plugs changed twice since new 5 years ago, serviced every 6 months ................... runs like a dream

At 57,500miles she is smoother and more powerful than ever, the mpg is now around 28-32mpg, it just seems to get better and better - I've owned it since new and the careful treatment its had is paying BIG dividends!

Pete

dpb

28mpg......?..............have you detuned it

pslewis

I got 320 miles out of a tank last week ... a run to Porlock at about 80mph on M4 and M5 ... about 30/40/50/60mph the rest of the way. That was about 160 miles - then spent another 160miles driving around - 1 tankful, 45 Litres, roughly 10 Gallons.

Then I had to put Tesco NUL in and it HATED it but thats all I could find!! That only lasted about 250miles - 25mpg.

Now got Optimax in and expect it to be up to 28mpg again!

Pete

DaveD

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£1500 to keep your Subaru stamp for another year?!

Glad I've serviced my MY93 WRX (with gold wheels) myself since importing it ......doubt I've spent much more than £2000 on servicing in 5 years (oil, brakes, wear & tear etc). Only needed to take it to the dealer for cam belt change.

140,000 miles and still going strong!

pslewis

Thats what it adds up to ..... ridiculous in the extreme in my opinion.

Anyway, I service my other cars - have access to a 4 post lift and garage facilities - I have an engineering mind ........ my mind is up to it, but my body isn't!! But the savings may just pay for a private hernia operation!!??

A Subaru isn't much more complicated than other cars, indeed, its heavily engineered to last (the farmers wouldn't use them if they weren't built like tractors)

140,000 miles, WOW!! Still on its original MAF Sensor??

Pete

GREEN SCOOBY

Pete! I really dont believe you have a scooby, you are just on here to give us a bit of entertainment and a good laugh and you do give me a laugh, a good one at that! are you sure your not Peter Kaye or Ricky Gervais in a moded 800cc, gold wheeled MGB type thing?????? keep up the good work you old fart. How old are you infact?


P.s. dont you think your engine sounded different the last time you started it up? that will be the big ends gone down to your maf

DaveD

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Well, I've never changed it, or the clutch for that matter.

However brake pads and Optimax are consumed at a fair rate

pslewis

EVERYONE knows that I am 76, nearly 77 (in June!!)

Pete

GREEN SCOOBY

Still on the original clutch as far as i know as well but only 63k done and quite a few 1/4 mile starts, so not bad at all.

Pete! has your car really done 57500 miles for a 99/2000 my? thats quite high mileage is'nt it? if I were you i would take out the warranty!

pslewis

Excellent news!!!

My pads have lasted nearly 58,000 miles!! I'm not sure they are working?? The discs are rusty??

Pete

pslewis

Its a MY00 (the best one ever!)

57,500 aint bad, about average I would say?

The warranty might be worth the £1233 for the year? Do you think mine is on its last legs???

Pete

GREEN SCOOBY

76 years old! i bet your the talk of the home with a battery operated subaru toy talking about warrantys and big end bearings trying to impress the other old folk

johnfelstead

the early WRX has a very strong MAF, the MY99/00 has a very fragile MAF.

28MPG, nice and lean there.

The best way to tell if the MAF is dying is to do an ECU reset, if it then idles roughly the MAF is definately dead, at which point you need to drive it off boost untill the new MAF is installed.

I am not saying your MAF is dead Pete, i am saying on the MY99/00 it's a sensible precaution to swap them out at 50K miles because they do deteriorate, even with the stock panel filter, it's a well known problem. Ask the EcuTek remapers how many new MAF's they swap out at the start of the mapping process due to low performing sensor outputs and you will be amazed at the reply.

It's the same issue other cars have with these early hot film sensors, VW have issues too but the diference there is they are not turbo engines so the damage is far less likely to occur, they just run less eficiently.

Anyway, i am sounding like a broken record, stick with the old MAF if you like, i am just trying to save you a few grand when your waranty lapses.

GREEN SCOOBY

I agree john. Its not as if he has not got the money! and replacing the maf on a remote controlled magazine car costs next to nothing!

johnfelstead

hoskib

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told ya pete, KA-BOOM

Iwan

When I had my (standard) UK MY99 the MAF failed at 39,000 miles, fortunately not doing any damage though it was under warranty anyway.

When I bought my MY99 Type R I changed the MAF as a precaution, it had done 41,000 miles and was on the original MAF so IMO it wasn't worth the risk (no warranty). They only cost £78 to relace and it's easy to change, well worth it for peace of mind - after all it's cheaper than an oil change at main dealer prices.

ScoobyDoo555

Pete - mine's an MY99.

Since the purchaset, it went through 3 MAFs. On the 99/00 they are the achillies (sp?) heal of the car. I don't have an induction kit.

In fact the 1st MAF was dying - it gave BLISTERING performance whilst on my test drive. The (official) Subaru dealer commented on how quick it was.
Just as I was about to pick the car up, the piston let go. New engine thankyou Subaru

They changed the MAF, then I noticed about 2 weeks later that the idle was rubbish - it would stall at junctions etc. New MAF, everything sorted.

My last MAF went, when at service, they changed the air filter (standard Subaru panel filter) and damaged the MAF with some cr@p from the dirty filter!!!! I only noticed when the performance did the opposite to before, also, NO stalling. This time the car would judder over 3000 revs!!!

New MAF

So what I'm getting at is that the MAF failure/failing scenario lends itself to a wide range of symptoms. But 9/10 times, MY99/00 problems are MAFs. For the sake of £78, it is piece of mind, especially when you bear in mind the potential consequences!!!

My MAF will now be changed at every service - the money I save on 3rd party servicing, I can afford to treat my Scoob to a few parts that wouldn't be changed so often

Hope this helps

Dan

speedking

Do you have fully comp. insurance? Just wondering.

Like you would !!

Graz

Of course you know the correct procedure for an oil change on an Impreza don't you? It's not as straightforward as you may think and if done incorrectly can lead to a big end failure.

Anyway at the ripe old age of 76 don't you think you're a bit old to be scrabbling around with a set of spanners underneath an Impreza. FFS you continuously remind us all how much money you have yet you seem so afraid to spend a bit of it. You can't take it to the grave you know and it's only a matter of time I'm sure your siblings (do you have any?) will thank you for it, after they have paid out a huge lump of inheritance tax to NL

£75 for peace of mind is a small price to pay if you ask me. I won't be renewing the warranty on mine, another MY00 approaching 60k miles. I have fitted a new MAF though, felt an immediate difference so the old one was obviously dying. And no induction kit / oiled filter etc. before you ask, standard airbox and dealer fitted panel filter.

APIDavid

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Not so! The short motor is; block, crank, rods and pistons, with rings and crank bearings of course. No oil pump, no crank seals, nothing but the above.

David APi Engines / APi Impreza
www.apiengines.com

dpb

........Im sure pete will be in to see you in the near future sir.......
....thats if he ever had one to start with.....

STi wanna Subaru

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Funny guy!