andy99turbo

Police pursuit vehicles tweaked to over 300bhp ?

How come, surely that just puts extra wear and tear on the vehicle, meaning its off the road more being serviced/repaired

Also, dont police vehicles carry a great bootful of stuff too, which surely must have an impact on performance due to the excess weight.

The Autocar road test I read on the S60R wasnt too great (performance wise, that is), I think mainly down to the fact that Volvo initially pitched it as an M3/S4 alternative and on the road test it failed to get anywhere near the performance of an M3, nearer to a 330i in fact

Andy M3

I don't believe that police Volvo's are performance tweaked. Uprated suspension and brakes at the most really. As for the S60R it still does decent times 0-100, 0-140 etc. But it's the 295 lbft across a wide band from 1950 to 5250rpm that is the key, less so the 300hp at 5500rpm.

I am not convinced a 330i BMW would be able to stick to a briskly driven S60R though ?

andy99turbo

Certainly from the autocar figures of both cars :-

S60R 0-60 6.3 0-100 15.9 30-70 6.0

330i 0-60 6.7 0-100 16.5 30-70 5.8 (4dr 231bhp model)

In my book that makes them pretty even, especially given the bmw is slightly quicker 30-70mph, the BMW is also a useful 140kg lighter.

The figures of the S60R came out hardly any quicker than the T5 version

The 330i's are pretty rapid motors, I usually had to work my previous 300bhp Saab 9000 pretty hard to see one off.

Andy M3

Ok - i can see the figures seem close, but when i had my 300 hp T5 [unproven], i didn't have to work hard to see a 330i off.

I still stand by my comments, that a S60R would make a better high speed car than an Evo.

SPEN555

I remember being a Croft a few years back and a guy had a T5 estate on track. That did shift! I really struggled in my scoob (MY00 full decat, induction and PPP) to firstly catch him and then reel him in close enough to get past on the straights.

I was impressed with it's turn of speed for such a standard looking car.

I have to agree with above that the volvo estates make superb traffic cop cars. You ain't shaking one of those on a motorway that's for sure.

Andy M3

Interesting you should say that, as Volvo's really aren't very good in the bends, esspecially around a fairly complex circuit like croft - but i don't suppose the scobby is the best track day car, but i would have thought better than the Volvo.

davecweed

there is other car mags that have got better times, that match volvo's claims

"car & driver"
ACCELERATION (Seconds)

Zero to 30 mph: 1.9

40 mph: 2.8

50 mph: 4.3

60 mph: 5.5

70 mph: 7.4

80 mph: 9.0

90 mph: 11.0

100 mph: 13.9

110 mph: 16.7

120 mph: 20.2

130 mph: 25.6

140 mph: 31.4

Street start, 5-60 mph: 6.5

Top-gear acceleration, 30-50 mph: 13.2

50-70 mph: 8.7

Standing 1/4-mile: 14.0 sec @ 101 mph


another mag managed a 0-100 in 13.4secs

dave

davecweed

the s60r has the new 4c chassis thing, which isnt perfect, but it is a vast improvement on the older volvo shock, etc setups

dave

SPEN555

Yes, it was interesting seeing the thing go through the bends (i.e. back end twitching) The only overtaking points are on the straights and once it was on their it would shift. So not so easy to get past.

st3ph3n

You want a fast police car? Check this thing out then, the Narco Camaro - http://gmhightechperformance.com/fea...7htp_narcotic/

Nitrous and a shotgun sir? Yes please.

Sideways, the way forward

What the ****!! as if the police have any fq400's nevermind half!!! biggest waste of money!!! if my taxes are going towards dounut munchers driving fq400's then i am leaving the country! they cost nrly 50K... THATS LOADS OF MONEY! Are they gonna give a **** about the car ...er... NO!. Only selected people with understanding and respect for performance jap motors should be allowed to own one.

matchmaker

My vRS Octy was mapped at Star Performance recently. On the rollers 188 bhp before (180 bhp factory figure), 216 bhp after. Fast on motorways - slippery shape (cd is only 0.28) - so top whack is 146 as standard. And excellent brakes.

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Yes quite a few of the police persuit cars are tweaked, they dont look anything but average, but the likes of the 850R with 250bhp standard was more like 330bhp in these cars, and considering what they need to catch these days, its a cheap way of doing so, warranties aint a problem for some of these forces, a new engine every 60k is pretty cheap considering.

Tony

Andy M3

You can't really pass 300 hp on the 15g mitsubishi turbo found on the 850's or the 16t on the 70 series. And T5's can do more than 60k at over 300 hp on a engine. More like 200k + @ 300+hp

Jonesy1981

The Police volvo estates may be tweaked and fast but its disadvantage when its a firearms car is that they can transport prisoners. The weight of all their equipment is just within the cars maximum weight, therefore if they ever nick you, be in for a wait while someone else comes along to bring you into custody.

Jap2Scrap

I reckon if an Armed Response Vehicle nicked me the last thing I'd be worried about was how long I'd have to wait for a ride to the station

cce

a car like this would only ever be driven by the top advanced drivers, who're probably better than you.

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

It was an example, these cars are tuned, you should go and buy one and give it a try, my mate did, very quick, considerably quicker than standard spec, definately over 300bhp, and yes the engines can last 200+k, but you will get the odd one thats had a replacement before that (my mates one before he sold it, had a new engine at 60k, car had 100+k on the clock), ex traffic car.

Tony

Andy M3

yes i have had a Volvo - have been in the T5 club, and no lots of ex police car owners and POLICE. And none of them have performance tweaks. However each area sorts themselves out, there is no set rule. If it was over 300 hp then someone has remapped it. You cannot achieve 300hp through a 'tune' and the chances of the police having a car remapped are slim as there is no official maps or software that Volvo recomend.

STI Craig

why do people always assume that a police driver is always better than the person getting chased.

as the police are not allowed to take silly risks and police man has nothing to loose apart from his pride
wer as the otherdriver knows he will be behind bars soon so they are more likely going to take bigger risks.

and as for the police helicopter ..... your having a laugh ....... it takes them ages to get that to u by that time youve lost them.

and realy wen u think about it how do u catch the realy big gangsters who import £millions of drugs

in a 240bhp t5 lol







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P.S leWiS

LOL. @ PLASTIC GANGSTA!

STI Craig

kiss my *** geek
i dont think im a gangsta at all im a 21 year old uni student who dont think much of the police at all.
and all that crap u get fed on tv is just bull

STI Craig

also you wouldnt dare say that to my face your just shuch a hard boy sat behind your computer aint ya

Andy M3

Sideways, the way forward

Yeah even the police astras come with a 3 & 1/2 litre twin turbo charged conversion... all through the front wheels as well. Can't be having it looking any different so they leave the brakes and suspesion the same and just hope that the chassis and dynamics of the thorough-bred astra copes.

ERRRR..i don't think so.

I was stopped a little while ago by a T5 and being a half decent copper i decided to fire the question 'are any of these volvos tweaked?' to which he replied no. He could of been lying but why would he lie?? he'd sooner rather **** me up and tell me that they had 400 brake! He went on to explain that there are a unmarked new age impreza wrx's that are used in the man met police and that all the volvos are factory spec.

Sideways, the way forward

Er...i expect that this car is so accomplished that to drive it fast would be easier than sleeping! After all with it having super extra active AYC and 4 wheel drive means that you'll be able to do anything to it... more forgiving than your wife when she found out u were gay!!!

By that do u mean that the police are the best drivers???...i don't think so!

My point was that if the cops have an fq400.... If it is sat in the police car park haven't not been driven all day, to suddenly be thrashed from cold to get to a so called emergency is not fair on that very limited car. It requires lots of TLC!

cce

police advanced are probably the fastest and safest ROAD drivers around. they are trained to travel as quickly as conditions permit when the situation requires it.


i've passengered one in a private car. faster than i ever thought possible.

Andy M3

EVO: http://www.sussex.police.uk/features..._went_away.asp

EVO: http://www.sussex.police.uk/features..._you_drive.asp

Think it is a 260 - but much for the police !

trigbert

Totally agree.

Was fortunate enough to go on a ride along with by brother one evening. Blimey these boys can handle those Volvos. I couldnt stop smiling, it was part fun and part a nervous smile. He was able to take roundabouts and corners at unbelievable speed, far faster than me in the Scoob, and as for braking it was like brake now, no now, please brake, thanks....

Nothing major happened but managed a response to the other side of Nottingham, now that was fun.

He told me a few forces are being offered these Evo's, they have been trying to persuade their inspector to take some on trial, but he wont. So probably safe in Notts for a while....

And the Volvos are bog standard, the drivers are just quite good. Mind given the mileage and driving they do, they can go through tyres, brakes and clutches at a rate apparently.