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Old 27 April 2005, 01:44 PM
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See my post further down, it must have been one of those but totally unlivieried for some reason.

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Thank you, I will treasure it always!
Old 27 April 2005, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave T-S
It can't be. It has to fit the maximum "box" dimensions (length/wingspan/height) to be able to be handled by airports - stand spacing, taxiways etc, and the wingspan at 262 ft is just inside this by about 18". The outer pair of engines are just wider than 150' runway width which will require upgrade at some airports.
Your talking about the 80m box. Yes, it fits in that, but only just. What has caused us problem tho is its turning circle, several taxi-way turnings have had to be widened to accomodate it. Also because its a double decker all the way down its lenght, we've had to build new piers to allow boarding on both decks. And a new catering vehicle has had to be designed from scratch to get the food and drink up that high.

Still cant wait to see it!
Old 27 April 2005, 01:48 PM
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The official designation of the Beluga is an A300-600ST, and as per the clue is a derivative of the A300 airliner. ATI, a subsidiary of AI, operates five Belugas commercially - they not only carry A320/A340 wingsets/fuselages from AI plants in Europe, but offer oversize load services to third parties.

At present, A380 parts are NOT carried by the Belugas - the wings come in by sea/road.

There is a further derivative of the Beluga in planning based on the 4 engined A340 - that will dwarf the -600ST!
Old 27 April 2005, 02:13 PM
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Yep, and can't wait for the first time someone runs off the edge of a taxiway and bogs one down!
Old 27 April 2005, 02:20 PM
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Landed again safe and sound!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4488361.stm
Old 27 April 2005, 02:26 PM
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Yep, and can't wait for the first time someone runs off the edge of a taxiway and bogs one down!
Can't remember the exact distance but at least 30 metres either side of the runway has to be capable of supporting an aircraft. Past that tho, it could be fun!
Old 27 April 2005, 04:00 PM
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I think that is just a standard 747 though and not the 747-400.
Old 27 April 2005, 05:11 PM
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Could the mystery plane be an Antonov?

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/801656/M/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/768367/M/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/664474/M/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/177719/M/
Old 27 April 2005, 07:35 PM
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I think that is just a standard 747 though and not the 747-400.

Same thing. Pretty much the only differnce between the orginal 747, now known as "the classic" and the 744 is that the latter has a stretched upper deck and wingtips. The sizes are very similar, if not identical. Bu$$er, Im gonna have to look it up now!

Yep, above is correct.

Anyone know why Airforce One is an old 747-200, not the latter 747-400?

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Old 27 April 2005, 08:17 PM
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its the lotus carlton of the jumbo jet world, you need sum hairy chested men complete with gold medalions to hand the thing, you just KNOW that bloke on the news had a chest wig in effect

looked impressive on the news, i did not think it looked "normal" in the air for sum reason
Old 27 April 2005, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
i did not think it looked "normal" in the air for sum reason
It looks normal compared to the Beluga coming into land at Hawarden, that thing looks like it's going to drop out of the sky at any moment!
Old 27 April 2005, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
Could the mystery plane be an Antonov?
Isn't the Antonov 225 still bigger than the Airbus anyway.

Those pics you posted don't do it justice, try this one:

Old 28 April 2005, 12:12 AM
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Weirdest plane I think I ever saw was the Boeing Model 377 "Super Guppy", got to look at one parked up at the Pima Air Museum in Tucson. Now that would certainly freak me out if it flew past my office window
Old 28 April 2005, 12:39 AM
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The 225 certainly is huge. Seen it (there is only one) out in Iraq a few times.....think we could've taxied our aircraft through it.....

Old 28 April 2005, 01:44 AM
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This is an interesting story (some pics) of a 747 being landed at a small airfield in Africa - plane was being decommissioned and heading for a museum nearby so it has no need to take off again.

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...nd+airport+747
Old 28 April 2005, 10:32 AM
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I think (but will stand corrected if I am wrong) that that pic is of an AN222, not 225. There used to be one regularly flew over my house operating out of Stansted.

Re large aircraft looking ungainly, depending on the a/c, they nearly have to be flown with a different attitude to smaller a/c. FedEx operate MD11 freighters out of Stansted and they have a HORRIBLE attitude in flight - nose high and very slow.

Re the SAA 742 landing, that was very impressive!

I saw the Vulcan bomber flown into Duxford on its last flight many years ago, and shortly afterwards they extended the M11 and chopped the end of the runway off so even if it was airworthy would never get out again!

If we are getting all nostalgic, my favourite plane of all time is probably the English Electric Lightning interceptor from the 60's - I saw one doing a demo at the Mildenhall (IIRC) Air Show back in the late 60's, and the pilot took off, engaged reheat, stood it on its tail and it just climbed vertically. Rather impressive.....

Mind you, I saw a crew do the same with a Vulcan, and it blew the whole runway up behind it - sheets of tarmac flying into the air for hundreds of yards.....oops, and the end of ops for the day!
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Originally Posted by Kevin Groat
This is an interesting story (some pics) of a 747 being landed at a small airfield in Africa - plane was being decommissioned and heading for a museum nearby so it has no need to take off again.

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...nd+airport+747

Nice bit of flying! The runway is sooo narrow!



pic courtesy of www.saamuseum.co.za

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Old 28 April 2005, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by SirFozzalot
Nice bit of flying! The runway is sooo narrow!



pic courtesy of www.saamuseum.co.za
Very impressive. Pilot has "minerals"!
Old 28 April 2005, 12:53 PM
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Good to see it had a successful maiden flight.

A good many years ago when I was doing a display at an airfield in Omaha they had a flypast by the prototype 747. No one had seen anything that size before and there was just total amazement as it flew past.

The bigger an aircraft, the slower it appears to be flying and this one looked as though it was going too slowly to stay in the air.

I see the new Airbus is just about double the overall size of the Vulcan Bet they won't be doing wingovers in that one though.

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Old 28 April 2005, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Groat
This is an interesting story (some pics) of a 747 being landed at a small airfield in Africa - plane was being decommissioned and heading for a museum nearby so it has no need to take off again.
As a non-pilot, landing on the narrow runway looks vaguely impressive. Until you read the details: runway width 15m, normal runway width 60m - and the fact that the engines overhanging the grass means you're not allowed to use reverse thrust to slow down in case of matter ingestion!
Old 28 April 2005, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
The bigger an aircraft, the slower it appears to be flying and this one looked as though it was going too slowly to stay in the air.
thats what it was, it looked like it was going to slow to fly!!

i was thinking it was coming down to crash lol
Old 28 April 2005, 01:05 PM
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I hope that cameraman had a very big zoom lense, or could run very fast

Seriously impressive bit of flying though....
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...brings a whole new meaning to Sat-Nav!
Old 29 April 2005, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBigMan


Wanna see video!!
Fill ya boots BigMan, vids and photos here

http://www.airbus.com/A380/Seeing/indexminisite.aspx

Very impressive
Old 29 April 2005, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii
Fill ya boots BigMan, vids and photos here

http://www.airbus.com/A380/Seeing/indexminisite.aspx

Very impressive
Brilliant!! Thank you for posting that.
Old 29 April 2005, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sprint Chief
Weirdest plane I think I ever saw was the Boeing Model 377 "Super Guppy", got to look at one parked up at the Pima Air Museum in Tucson. Now that would certainly freak me out if it flew past my office window
I was going to mention the 'Guppy'......... I saw a fully liveried one fly out of Manchester in the very early eighties and I fell off my bike!



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This is the one; the looks like it was carrying airbus parts too. Id spent the last twenty years thinking it had Space Shuttle sections in...





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