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Old 05 May 2005, 12:15 AM
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Well, shortly after that event I was tailgated on the A50 by a copper in an unmarked R reg Chavalier, yes I know I shouldn't have sped up but I was inexperienced at the time and could not find a way into the inside lane to let the ******* past. One speeding ticket right at the start of a weekend away, lovely.

I now work for a company that acts as a supplier to certain police departments at various police forces (I will say no more than that as I may lose my anonymity) and what I have witnessed has just caused my respect to plummet even further, to the point that I am considering quitting my job as I do not want to be associated with it or the force any more.

I've thankfully not had to deal with the NHS much, and my one recent experience has been farely positive (I do have a major issue with my GP refusing to make appointments for the next day, which means when the lines open at 8:30, you have about 15 minutes to attempt to get through before they are fully booked and you are told to try again tomorrow) and if the bins dont get emptied it's just a slight inconvinience, you pile up the big bags next to the wheelie bin, then the rats, dogs and chavs get in and the council have to send a street sweeper down, serves them right.

With the police this isn't the case, when they fail to catch crimilals, people can lose expensive items, someone else could get killed or beaten up or mugged. If the fire brigade only had one engine and 3 firemen and were constantly working a backlog which results in them only arriving at fires 4 hours after they are started then there would be a public outcry. ISTR the London Ambulance service receives a lot of flak for similar reasons too (this is probably caused by artificially created Kengestion and by the drivers having to fill in Section 172 forms). Comparing this job to that of a binman is missing the point somewhat.
Old 05 May 2005, 12:40 AM
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Comparing this job to that of a binman is missing the point somewhat.
That`s not quite what I was doing mate, and if you read my post again, you`ll see.

What I was getting at is the fact that the Police get slated more than anyone else, in any other job, be it public sector, private industry, or otherwise.

It always seems that there is someone out there who feels they can do the job better..........but unless you`re in the force, you`re just not qualified to judge, as you`re not faced with the same problems in your job. (This is not meant to sound patronising BTW, but it`s just my opinion, and I accept that you`re fully entitled to yours, same as me )
Old 05 May 2005, 01:04 AM
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Again, most people who moan about the police are moaning about the system, or they are victims of the camera brigade as this is the only front line police service they see regularly.

Despite being the victim of one or two bad apples within the police force from time to time. I have no complaint with front line beat officers, however those bad apples and the failings of the system leave me finding it pointless to deal with the police force unless I have to (ie. need a crime ref to make an insurance claim)

Another example, in November I was rear ended at 50 mph on a motorway roundabout down south, after about half an hour of us trying to alert traffic about the stranded vehicle, the police turn up (ok so they're overworked and short staffed, no biggie) clear up the roundabout, take statements and give us both producers. I explain to the officer that my driving licence and other documents are in Liverpool, about 3 hours north and that I will be in no fit state to drive that far for quite a while. He responds by asking me which station in liverpool I'll be handing the documents into then, and reminds me that by failing to do so within 7 days is an offence. I know that officers can grant extensions up to 28 days as my dad managed to get it done (after he was given a producer because a truck reversed into his company van at 5:30PM on christmas eve, he spent most of the holiday period trying to chase the officer to extend it) but he just couldn't be arsed. I had to make the trip, it took me 8 hours there and back with regular stops because of the pain all because of one bloody jobsworth copper.

A few months later I get a form letter saying that no action will be taken, well there's a suprise eh? no-one wanted any action taken.
Old 05 May 2005, 01:26 AM
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At the end of the day, stick to the laws of the land, drive responsibly, don't speed, don't act like an ar$e, ensure you car is roadworthy, insured etc, and the police won't be interested in you.......

Quite simple really. The less unlawful activity there is on the roads, the more resource freed up to deal with "real crime" as you all put it.

The above applies whatever the wrongs & "moral" rights of speeding. You are all intelligent enough to KNOW the penalty risks of speeding, and the fact that there ARE enforcement techniques in use. Engage the brain chaps
Old 05 May 2005, 09:05 AM
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Here what your saying Big Man, But going back to the original post. She was within the law, She was doing nothing wrong. She reported a crime and expected it would be delt with, she was then thretened and racial abuse was given.

Lone female, no back up and police didnt attend. Like ive said before even the RAC and AA give priority to lone females.
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Originally Posted by davegtt
you should have said yeah the car is still about but its OK, you shot the driver half hour ago and youve not heard any noise since. see how quick they turn up then
Old 05 May 2005, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBigMan!!
At the end of the day, stick to the laws of the land, drive responsibly, don't speed, don't act like an ar$e, ensure you car is roadworthy, insured etc, and the police won't be interested in you.......
Disagree. The police are always going to be interested in us as they have recently discovered what a great source of revenue we are. Whatever happens to road death figures etc, the force or 'farce' rather, now depends on this revenue stream and will keep lowering the tolerances (as they are already doing) to keep the money rolling in. Its costs them 10's of thousands to put up just one camera. Imagine the real police work that could have been done instead. They want a good return on their investment.
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