Chip

As is typical of New Labour your trying to bull**** yourself out of a corner. It's a legal requirment in the UK to issue a payslip or statement of earnings.

Chip

Chip

Pole dancer???


Chip

harvey

iTrader: (48)

IF an HGV deliberately holds you up for mile upon mile and takes pleasure out of it, take the reg. no., log the time, and get the company details off the side. Tesco and a phone number or whatever.
If it is worth complaining about, be sensible, phone the company and ask to speak to the transport manager. Explain what has happened. Give him two options, either he deals with the problem and comes back to you when he has sorted it or you will report the matter to the local Ministry of Transport licensing department.
HGVs are so tightly regulated in terms of operators licencing and HGV driver licencing that any reputable operator will immediately want it sorted.
Deliberately impeding the way of an HGV is very unwise, so if it genuinely warrants action do the sensible thing. If it does not, get on with your journey and realise that it is legislation that limits all HGVs to 56mph and one vehicle will be faster on the level but not on an incline etc etc hence when an overtaking manouver starts with the best will in the world, you can sometimes find yourself in lane 2 with no progress and nowhere to go.
No sensible HGV drivers will condone holding up cars deliberately and all HGV drivers are car drivers. There are good and bad drivers whether it be car HGV or bike. Live and let live unless it is very serious.
In 30 years plus of driving I have only once come across a situation where I was deliberately held back by two wagons for mile upon mile with the response above. They were not interested in my car particularly, more that neither would yeild to the other. I am confident that the drivers concerned, both from the same firm, have not indulged in such inconsiderate behaviour since.

Luminous, I see you are one of these guys that likes to race your Scoob on public roads.

pnbond007

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How many of us have dived in front of an arctic to the slow lane to make the next junction, I have done it, pretty silly really stealing the guy's braking distance is asking for trouble.

HGV's however should be made stick to the slow lane, there would be very few hold-ups then. Everytime you head towards an incline your left with the fast lane only, cause yorky bloke is trying to pass something faster then himself.

dpb

Id have to say i cannot remember ever taking 'revenge' on another road user.......if someone is actually mucking about or unskillful or just plain slow I JUST IGNORE THEM and smirk/pity them under my breath.

kbsub

Restricting HGVs to the slow lane wouldnt work , what about when 3 or 4 cars want to be off at the next junction and find a long queue of HGVs in the slow lane

Anyway the moral of the thread is we should be all more patience and tolerant to over road users whatever they are driving and stop this ******* tit for tat behaviour

Luminous

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I like that idea, think I will try that next time (if there should be another next time).

Not going to comment on that. Not sure where you get that idea from, but commeting would be off topic, and no doubt fruitless

Luminous

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Could be an idea to restric HGVs from overtaking on hills. Have a sign at the bottom of the hill where it is prohibited.

But then again, the cowboys that I was having an issue with will no doubt ignore that too.

kbsub

Dont they have that in France ??

harvey

iTrader: (48)

In Germany for instance there are prohibitions on trucks in lane 2 on hills.(plus crawler lanes)
Wagons are the lifeblood of the UK transport system. Slow down road transport and add cost and time to deliveries. It makes a lot of sense. Next time you order a tuning bit to come overnight it might take two days.
Why not get recruit people with redflags to run in front of trucks. That's progress for you.
Luminous. What about a Lotus you were racing. It's not off topic. It shows that some car drivers are on the road for fun. Truck drivers are not there for fun.

Luminous

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The German system sounds the best. German road rules seem to be the best overall, be great if they were imported to our roads.

I don't think no overtaking for trucks up hills will cause them to take one extra day to get where they are going. In fact, it would probably cost them at most 1 minute per 100 miles, if that.

kbsub

Remember September 2000 ? fuel strike ... that showed how much this country relies on trucks and the road transport system , We have a job to do let us get on with it

StickyMicky

i dont get a payslip either??

Chip

Because your self employed. But youll still know at each year end how much you have earned.

Chip

Luminous

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Of course we rely on the road transport system. The sooner the average person realises that the more likely we are to have some reasonable policies.

The German system is better, so lets use it. We don't have to put up with it.

BTW I supported the fuel strike, and lets not forget that a lot of car drivers helped you out. Lots of support, plus "panic buying". There was no panic on my part, or anyone else in our office. We went out and filled up every car we possibly could get our hands on, the maximise the effect you had

StickyMicky

that is my point

BEW

Chip,is New Labour not from another country though!

Really can't believe some folk are so far up their own **** to deliberately slow down a truck,when they pull in go merrily on your way,does a couple of minutes *really* make that much of a difference to your journey?

StickyMicky

Luminous

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Love the comment, I see you no longer think that trucks should overtake at all. I mean, its only a few minutes isn't it......

You have to see the picture from both sides of the fence. Nobody has total right over the road. I cannot see why people cannot grasp the concept that it is totally wrong to deliberately hold someone up, regardless of what you are driving. With just a little more co-operation it would be so easy for everyone just to get on their way, but people are just not like that.

They are quite happy to start to overtake when they have a tiny tiny speed advantage. The chap being overtaken is quite happy to sit there for 5-10 minutes without just easing off a little so that they can complete the overtake.

Why should people be happy just to sit behind an endless queue of traffic when there does not have to be one?

Imagine a motorway full of old people, all doing 20 mph, each trying to overtake one another. How would you truckies feel then? Crawling along just waiting for one of them to finally finish their manoeuvre and move over.

Maybe I just expect too much. Perhaps I should just become a lane hogger, and not care about anyone else. Maybe I should never flash a truck out of an awkward junction. If people thought about the others that are around them, life would be a lot easier.

C. Jay. k.

matchmaker...." Tesco artics! On the A9 between Perth and Inverness they stick rigidly to 40 mph on the single carriageway sections. OK, it may be the limit, but every other wagon on the road is keeping up a sensible speed.

The queues - and suicidal overtaking manoevres - have to be seen to be believed."

I am a Tesco driver that is regularly on the A9 ......and generally sit at the legal limit for my Vehicle on a single carraigeway. Think you'll find matey that the reason tail backs occur so often is 99% of the other road users can't/wont overtake, all it takes is for the couple of cars directly behind not to overtake and the whole lot of you are shafted. If you are a regular user of this road Matchmaker you will know that there are plenty of opportunities to pass(not just the dual cairrageway sections).
As for your comment on other Artics driving on the limiter 55/56mph on single lanes ,well, lets hope its not you or your Family that gets tangled up with one, bearing in mind some of these Cowboys are running at 44 tonnes(44 tonnes minimum for the real cowboys) you do the sums for stopping distances etc.
Think your Beef should be with authorities, the A9 is the only Trunk road to the central Highlands and should have been made all dual carr. a decade ago .
Our Transport office get regular 'complaints' about Tesco Drivers going too slow, but you would be amazed at the amount of people who dont know the speed limits for LGV's and go off the phone a bit peeved and embarrased.

Some right Dicks on this Thread by the way,thank f*ck I dont own an Impreza any more.

BEW

think you misjudged me! I only see it from a car drivers view and honestly have never felt the need in near 14 years of driving to act a t1t infront of a lorry and yes I've been held up briefly by them overtaking!

Maybe I'm not just as easily wound up on the roads as some!

kbsub

Ditto

Luminous

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I think most of us have a lot of "beef" with the authorities. Sooo many roads need to be expanded, but under NL transport policy it just won't happen. They've been promising that the A1 was going to be 3 lanes over 20 years ago, still not happened

ThrustSSC

Ah, but Si, how could I resist such an opportunity? Looks like I'm a bit late on getting to this thread, though

You do back off 5mph when being overtaken, don't you? Please put your hand on your heart and tell me you do!

NewLabour

Some people make me laugh, I don't work in the UK and what I earn and where I work is my own business. What I will tell you is that £14 ph wouldn't keep me in Champagne for a week.

Chip

Yeah right.

Luminous

iTrader: (3)

When did this all become about money. I don't honestly care how much you all earn. The ones that are well off, well done to you. You either did something right, or somebody in your family did.

NewLabour

I think it started when some minimum wagers got upset that £14 per hour is chickenfeed.

Luminous

iTrader: (3)

Oh Must have missed that bit *shrug*

scooby-si

pmsl hiding the screen from her so that chip doesnt get a black eye off her