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Old 21 May 2006 | 12:35 AM
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Whatever is said .... the UK car rules in the UK .... the rest are just sad, cheap, tacky imitations.

It's how it's always been .....

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Old 21 May 2006 | 12:48 AM
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I thought long and hard about how to respond to that Pete.......

In the end I figured there was no need. Everyone will read it and make their own mind up, but I will bet no one will agree with you.
Old 21 May 2006 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I want one built for the UK market .... NOT one built for the JBM!!!!

There are 2 production lines you know?

One line is for JDM where cars don't have top last much beyond 3 years due to the costs in Japan of keeping a car beyond that age.

And the other is the Export Line where the cars need to last 10 years.

I know which one will have all the quality parts fitted!! And thats the one I want, thanks all the same!!!

You dimwits out there who buy JDM's carry on ..... it's a free world - but, isn't it odd how JDM's go pop and break all the time????

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yep ,those Japanese no nothing about business.They will spend millions building another production line just to save a few yen on each car...
Old 21 May 2006 | 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by BedHog
I thought long and hard about how to respond to that Pete.......

In the end I figured there was no need. Everyone will read it and make their own mind up, but I will bet no one will agree with you.
I am used to being the only one who talks sense on here ........

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Old 21 May 2006 | 12:54 AM
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Of course pslewis is right.

The Japanese specially select the best cars from the production line and send them to the UK dealers because they like our country so much. As these cars are so much better than the subarus sold anywhere else in the world the UK Subaru dealer charges up to £6K more for them which is obviously a bargain. The cars sold in every other country are simply not the same quality. I've heard all sorts of rumours regarding the cars they send to Cyprus, plastic brake discs, chocolate gearboxes, I even heard rumours that the Japanese assembly workers pee in the engines of the cars destined for Cyprus instead of filling them with oil.
Old 21 May 2006 | 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by legb4rsk
yep ,those Japanese no nothing about business.They will spend millions building another production line just to save a few yen on each car...
Maybe they just have one? And the night shift (the tired night shift does the JDMs using the second rated parts bin?)

Why put the best parts on JDM when they won't need them?

Why else would the UK cars last so much longer????

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Old 21 May 2006 | 01:01 AM
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Pete, you are a wind up aficianado!

This web site must provide you with hours of amusement.
Old 21 May 2006 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Maybe they just have one? And the night shift (the tired night shift does the JDMs using the second rated parts bin?)

Why put the best parts on JDM when they won't need them?

Why else would the UK cars last so much longer????

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Shouldn't your posts have a warning at the beginning?
Something like 'Beware,you are now entering a fact-free zone'
Old 21 May 2006 | 01:37 AM
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WOW!

You guys really know how to make choosing a car easy!
Old 21 May 2006 | 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by philrsi
WOW!

You guys really know how to make choosing a car easy!
to be honest mate it up to you what impreza you buy uk spec or jap spec but if you want a impreza get a jap spec one not a uk because the jap import will be faster and better spec.i've had my uk turbo 3 years now and i should have bought a jap import.

believe it or not sometimes pete does talk sense but on this thread he's on a wind up.
Old 21 May 2006 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
WHERE ARE UK SUBARUS MADE?

Well said Bubba,both from the same production line.

FFS some feejits dont understand that subaru dont have a factory in the uk for uk models
Old 21 May 2006 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by badgersport
The cars sold in every other country are simply not the same quality. I've heard all sorts of rumours regarding the cars they send to Cyprus, plastic brake discs, chocolate gearboxes, I even heard rumours that the Japanese assembly workers pee in the engines of the cars destined for Cyprus instead of filling them with oil.
I was actually going to buy an import before I read this!


Old 21 May 2006 | 09:52 AM
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I quite agre with your comments, i also have an import and have no problems with servicing etc. My car is registered with IM so any warranty work that needs to be done will be done. It stands to reason what idiot would spend 5k more for a UK spec when you can buy a new import which is basically the same. Subaru are having a hard time selling their latest model hence some dealers offering freebies i.e PPP or free insurance etc, etc .


Originally Posted by jasonius
I agree this dealer was out of order to cover this fact up, however the rest of the stuff about EU UK spec cars is complete bollocks..!

Insurance isn't a problem, see Norwich Union web page, the seats are FAR superiour to the uk seats and as for servicing/warranty work, LOL, dealers are falling over themselves to service and work on my import. If not then go to a dealer that will. My car is fully reg. with IM for cross border warranty work to be carried out here in this country..! To boot I've also got a 5 year full transmission warranty...!!!!

As for the trade in value, do you really think the uk cars hold their money these days..! Yes an import 3+ years down the line 'may' be worth less than a similar UK car, but not by much, if any..!

Why else do you think IM are offering free PPP these days..? It's to try and even up the short comings of buying a UK car..!

Lewis how much do you think your 'proper' uk car is worth now...?
Old 21 May 2006 | 12:52 PM
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An EU car isnt an 'import' in the accepted sense; look at the V5... There are no issues with warranties or insurance.
Old 21 May 2006 | 05:54 PM
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i used to have a Euro MY02 WRX, traded it in and now have a JDM 350Z, Never lost that much money on the wrx(6k in 3 and a half years), no probs whatsoever with servicing both at main dealers, i will be getting a STi next year after a small trip to the Basra sniper dodging academy, it wont bother me if it is a Import or a JDM, as long as the price is right.

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Old 21 May 2006 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by scott.w
what so bad about an import
If it's a European import - nothing, it's the same car. Just that the price should be less than a UK car as it cost less when new in the first place. And the dealer should say it was and not sidestep teh truth. Matters over insurance and dealer servincing is bullcrap. The only issue is some cars didn't have the pan european warrantee sorted properly when they were new - which was the retailer's fault as they did not follow the correct procedure when registering and selling the car. Current euro imports have no such issue if the correct process is followed.

Jap import - they can be more tricky, dealers "can" play up. Insurance can be different as they are different specs and need type approvals, different fuel, and conversion from kph to mph etc etc. So that is different story as Euro imports need no such thing.

People really need to be VERY CAREFUL on what they mean when they say the word "import". As the situation between jap and euro imports is very very different indeed. And people through their own ill-advised ignorance making wide brushed comment, as seen in this thread and many others just dilutes the truth of the whole matter.

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Old 21 May 2006 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Imports = BAD news ............ try selling one!! well for decent money I mean!

The proper UK car is the way to go, wise move!

Pete
I'll 3rd that,never an import again
Old 21 May 2006 | 08:04 PM
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I still can't believe that there is such a debate about buying an EU car.Forget all the crap about there not the same and they are inferior its clearly not an issue for those who have gone the EU route, bought some locking wheel nuts a tracker etc and still been quids in.

The p/x situation is changing by the month and the days are gone when you lost loads of money when changing. It's the same car for god sake and anyone daft enough to pay U.K prices has my sympathy.

JDM for me next time.
Old 21 May 2006 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AVI-8
Pete, you are a wind up aficianado!

This web site must provide you with hours of amusement.
Just look at the number of posts he has made in 6 years


Thats one every 30 minutes

He must be King on here
Old 22 May 2006 | 12:21 AM
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mods,please lock this thread because it's been done to death with the same old ****e being peddled from misinformed idiots who can't be arsed searching/listening to previous advice!!!!!!
Old 22 May 2006 | 12:36 AM
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Anthony, I have a sneaking suspicion that you are pete in disguise ?????
Old 22 May 2006 | 09:29 AM
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I really dont understand this whole "Import = Bad" crap?

1) They are faster.
2) They are cheaper.
3) Who gives a flying **** if subaru wont service them they pull down your pants anyway!
4) Alarm.. I'm sure you'ed be fitting a decent CAT1 anyway?
5) Side airbags, extra pointless weight!
6) Anti corrosion treatment - Not worth the tin it comes in.
Old 22 May 2006 | 02:34 PM
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Default JDM vs UK

JDM cars have more bang per buck but do have draw backs but anyone buying any Subaru should have researched this.

JDM cars are easily recognisable, most have a rear wash wipe as standard, UK cars dont even give this as an option.
JDM cars (STi) have stronger cranks than the UK equivalent
JDM Cars generally have a better stereo than UK Cars (Mine came with a minidisc, although no good to me as I dont have any minidiscs!)
JDM STi has slightly bigger TMIC than UK and USA (15% I was informed by US tuning Co)
A lot of JDM cars come with Privacy glass as std (not everyones taste I know)

UK Cars are slightly cheaper to insure (15-30%)
UK cars have softer more forgiving suspension
UK Cars are easily serviced by franchised dealers (however once modified at all (apart from back box or ppp) you might as well forget warranty and go with a better aftermarket tuner such as Power Station or Power Engineering)
UK cars have taller gearing (JDM close ratios)

I understand the arguements both sides as I have a JDM STi and my wife has a UK300.
Both Reliable, Both Cool and so are everyone elses scoobies if they haven't over indulged on body dress up.

Have a nice day all!
Old 22 May 2006 | 06:00 PM
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Quick question from a stupid newbee

If imports are cheaper, then why can't I find a MY99/00 import cheaper than uk car.
Old 22 May 2006 | 06:54 PM
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mines a pararell import needed cat 1 (s 30) £235 and locking wheel nuts thats all as side air bags no subaru badge on back and no head lamp control (for if carrying extra wieght) but do es have rust proofing all for £16495 brilliant !!
Old 22 May 2006 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AVI-8
Anthony, I have a sneaking suspicion that you are pete in disguise ?????
I have a sneaking suspicion that you are of bog Irish decendent, Am I right?

Now don't try and generalise and keep on topic!!!
Old 22 May 2006 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by lightning101
Most Subaru UK dealers won't service them, therefore de-valuing car even quicker than usual.

Dearer to insure.

Harder to sell on due to the above.


Some imports don't have full UK spec either, e.g. Cat 1 alarm, trackers, body underseal etc etc.

makes me laugh as they all come out of the same factory!!!! just another excuse to screw you for cash

Mart
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Originally Posted by Anthony Crichton-Wheeler
I have a sneaking suspicion that you are of bog Irish decendent, Am I right?

Now don't try and generalise and keep on topic!!!

No your wrong

Scottish born and bred
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