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Old 21 May 2005, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
on the earlier cars the maf's are a lot stronger ,and are not affected as much by induction kits.
Wires could have been moved, connectors could have been upset ...

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Old 21 May 2005, 08:17 PM
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I really can't believe that I am about to say this, but Pete has a good point. If AlanPPP had come on and said that he had done an ECU re-set and now the car idles badly and hesitates, then the first thing that I would suggest is that the MAF is dying but not dead yet and so not throwing a CEL, but on it's way out, and the ECU had learned to cope so it seemed to be running fine. But since it had been re-set, the ECU was having to re-learn around the dying MAF, so it was running badly. My money is on the MAF being on it's way out causing the engine probs - do a search on MAF and idling problems, it's well recognised that if re-setting the ECU mucks up the idle then it's a good sign that the MAF is on it's way out.

As for the gearbox, I have no idea whats up.

Edit - just noticed you have changed the air filter - are you 100% that the lid of the air-box is back on properly, it's quite hard to see the wee hooks at the bottom end. Did you loosen or remove anything else to lift the lid of the air box, it could be you have an air leak.

(2nd edit for spelling and punctuation!!)

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Old 21 May 2005, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
Don't fall for it hoskib, thats what he wants!
nah, not biting mate, just amusing myself for a while and maybe keeping this thread near the top will help alan sort his problem

nearly forgot. pete, you wouldn't have a hope in hell of giving me a slapping
Old 21 May 2005, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Wires could have been moved, connectors could have been upset ...

Pete
good point but it takes a bit more than that to **** the earlier maf's up
Old 21 May 2005, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
good point but it takes a bit more than that to **** the earlier maf's up
Moving wires and connectors can loosen the contacts and all kinds of issues can be thrown up.

Cheaper to check these than a new MAF Sensor - especially as its expensive on this MY!

hoskib, I can assure you one thing - you would be popped well and truly on your bum!! Take my word for it!!

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Old 21 May 2005, 08:26 PM
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now now children!
Old 21 May 2005, 08:27 PM
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Pete, I have to say, I totally agree with you on this one. Can't believe I said that. I thought the Labour thing was a one and only!
Old 21 May 2005, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis

hoskib, I can assure you one thing - you would be popped well and truly on your bum!!

Pete
by a **** like you? dream on ******
Old 21 May 2005, 08:28 PM
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About the technical issue, not putting hoskib on his bottom!
Old 21 May 2005, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
About the technical issue, not putting hoskib on his bottom!
Old 21 May 2005, 08:30 PM
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Woah Woah Woah!

Who said anything about my car hesitsating??? And my idle is only dodgey when i first start it up after it's been standing for a while.Any other time it sits at a perfect 900 revs.

I will take a better look at the airbox and MAF etc and check all levels and connections again.Is there any other things i could do/clean out that could help? Boost solenoid maybe?
Old 21 May 2005, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hoskib
by a **** like you? dream on ******
I might be a ***, I might be a ******, you might not like me ...... but you would get a right old slapping!! Carry on being a keyboard warrior, its MUCH safer

Back to the thread ..... check the induction side very carefully

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Old 21 May 2005, 08:35 PM
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If the wire check doesn't fix things, clean the boost solenoid. Do a serch in technical for instructions.
Old 21 May 2005, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I might be a ***, I might be a ******, you might not like me ...... but you would get a right old slapping!! Carry on being a keyboard warrior, its MUCH safer
that's the worrying thing, i quite like you you're a bit of a ****, but fairly funny.

you REALLY wouldn't have a hope of putting me down, and as for the keyboard warrior thing, there's nothing i wouldn't say to anybodys face that i write on here.

we're all ******* if you look at it literally

i don't suppose this is helping you, is it alan
Old 21 May 2005, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AlanPPP
Woah Woah Woah!

Who said anything about my car hesitsating??? And my idle is only dodgey when i first start it up after it's been standing for a while.Any other time it sits at a perfect 900 revs.

I will take a better look at the airbox and MAF etc and check all levels and connections again.Is there any other things i could do/clean out that could help? Boost solenoid maybe?

Hmm, imagined the bit about hesitating. I really don't think it's oil related though, the 10w40 oil should be fine if it decent quality, my '97 scoob seems to like 10w40 Motul 300V better than it likes the 15w50 stuff, seems quieter in the mornings.

You are on the right lines to check for loose connections, clean out the boost solenoid etc, possibly also the Idle control valve, which could obviously effect the idle !!!

I'd still read up on MAF problems since it seems to have popped up since the ECU reset. If it is O.K once the car is warm it sounds like it is only happening while the car is running open loop before the lambda warms up, although it'd take me a few minutes to think through the full implications of what that might suggest is up.
Old 21 May 2005, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hoskib
we're all ******* if you look at it literally
Indeed we are ... we shall have to share a pint one day We'll agree to differ?

Its strange who the idle is only uneven at start-up .... points to a temp. sensor maybe??

Pete

ps. thats NOT share a pint .... its have one each - you to buy, of course!!

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Old 21 May 2005, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Indeed we are ... we shall have to share a pint one day We'll agree to differ?
blimey, is that a truce?

just read your edit, i'll be more than happy to buy you a beer. i'll have to take pics to proove you exist though

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Old 21 May 2005, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Its strange who the idle is only uneven at start-up .... points to a temp. sensor maybe?

Fair point, failed temp sensor making the car use the warm running maps even when the engine is cold maybe ?
Old 21 May 2005, 08:55 PM
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Well just been out and had a real good look around..All connections are ok...airbox is on tight.

The boost solenoid was clicking away with no accelerator pedal used when i first started the car up right..Then i disconected the MAF sensor plug and the car struggled away but never died so i reconected it and it went back to normal BUT the solenoid now only clicks when i tweak the throttle?! Is this right??

I will clean out the Solenoid and maybe do another ECU reset to see if it picks anything else up?
Old 21 May 2005, 08:57 PM
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Disconnecting the MAF should result in an engine stalling - I think???

Saying it struggled on tells me that the ECU is using a substituted value and maybe has been earlier too??

Pete
Old 21 May 2005, 08:58 PM
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correct pete, if you disconnect the plug from the maf the engine will stall. you have a faulty maf alan
Old 21 May 2005, 09:06 PM
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Ooooooooo right Sounds like that's the culprit then!

FFS these are a small fortune on pre 97 motors too How much? £200?
Old 21 May 2005, 09:07 PM
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Banny will it stall instantly mate? I never took the plug out for long before i put it back in again! Should i take it off and leave it off and see if it stalls??
Old 21 May 2005, 09:08 PM
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it should stall after a couple of seconds alan.
Old 21 May 2005, 09:08 PM
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i hate to say it, but i think ppl have jumped down pete's neck rather too quickly on this occasion!

owbow (can't believe i just said that..... NURSE!)

Old 21 May 2005, 09:10 PM
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I suggested the MAF at post #4 ......

Mind you, I have a reputation ... people DO jump to conclusions when I post, its part of the fun. They can't see when I am actually helping

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Old 21 May 2005, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by owbow
i hate to say it, but i think ppl have jumped down pete's neck rather too quickly on this occasion!
yup, and i take it all back

i'd still knock you sparko though pete (only if you didn't buy a 2nd round)
Old 21 May 2005, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by hoskib
yup, and i take it all back

i'd still knock you sparko though pete (only if you didn't buy a 2nd round)
Thats very noble Sir!

I would certainly buy the 2nd round .... you would be drinking it through a straw though!!

Pete
Old 21 May 2005, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Thats very noble Sir!

I would certainly buy the 2nd round .... you would be drinking it through a straw though!!

Pete
that's as soon as i've wheeled you out of hospital
Old 21 May 2005, 09:20 PM
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Well Pete maybe if you answered in a different way instead of being sarcastic then maybe you would get a lot more respect as you seem to have a fair bit of knowledge.

Thanks everyone for the help


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