Hole on Beach too deep
23 May 2005, 09:29 PM
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I'm going to write the council and find out what the score is. Expect a reply in a couple of weeks.
Took me a while to work out who to write to, but I think I've found a good starting point on the website.
Took me a while to work out who to write to, but I think I've found a good starting point on the website.
23 May 2005, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by David_Wallis
We did that with a towel on the beach in malia - greece...
Was funny as **** when one of the lads came back from the sea, sat back on it, fell **** first into the hole and got stuck and couldnt get out!
David
Was funny as **** when one of the lads came back from the sea, sat back on it, fell **** first into the hole and got stuck and couldnt get out!
David
done that one too
funny as **** watching someone try and get out of the hole.(disclaimer: no one was hurt in the process of getting flods *** stuck in a great big hole, on the other hand it fkin hurt my back trying to get the lardy out of the hole afterwords)
23 May 2005, 10:24 PM
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RR2,s post highlights the more serious side of what potentially could have happened...
but what do you expect with todays pc nanny state..
more gaurdianistas, doing there NL best to check up on us..
hellooo.. people, what do you expect from socialists,, you cannot have freedom its banned by the state... free thought... banned.. enjoyment ...banned
cars.... banned... speed.... heretic. burn them.. holes.. not funny....
just more sensability from billy no mates at number ten..
I see in the paper you cant call them yobs... it may upset them....
bet they have a coordinator to check they are being yobbed correctly..
holes in the sand is the start.......
1984 has nothing on this gov......
M
but what do you expect with todays pc nanny state..
more gaurdianistas, doing there NL best to check up on us..
hellooo.. people, what do you expect from socialists,, you cannot have freedom its banned by the state... free thought... banned.. enjoyment ...banned
cars.... banned... speed.... heretic. burn them.. holes.. not funny....
just more sensability from billy no mates at number ten..
I see in the paper you cant call them yobs... it may upset them....
bet they have a coordinator to check they are being yobbed correctly..
holes in the sand is the start.......
1984 has nothing on this gov......
M
23 May 2005, 10:45 PM
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LoL We went to the beach last year at chapel six marshes,not too many people there and we were the last to leave,Well i took my grave diggers,round mouth shovel and started digging near the top end of the beach,an hour later and i was stood at the bottom of the hole with water around my feet,i am about 5'7 and the shovel at full stretch was just poking out the top when the wife made me stop and my mate pulled me out with shovel,kids thought it was great,it was a laugh at the time and still makes me grin.As we were the last to leave and it was getting dark we left it for the rising water table to flood it cos there was a couple of tons to put back in the hole and i did'nt fancy that.Next time we went you could still see the bloody great heap of sand where the hole had been. I'll make sure we get a piccy this year and hope the guy from the council as'nt around!!
they do sweet fa
24 May 2005, 07:24 AM
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I would have thought that sand callapse might be more of a problem than falling into it. 4 feet deep is quite an achievement......
But its only courtesy to fill it in when you finish I suppose ............ but whatever next.
Hole cameras on the beach......? Nanny state .......
But its only courtesy to fill it in when you finish I suppose ............ but whatever next.
Hole cameras on the beach......? Nanny state .......
24 May 2005, 07:43 AM
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4Ft is **** all, I used to dig em deeper than me and had do do a couple of steps tpo get out the bastid.. no one ever complained, in fact I was kida "da man" as we all used to jump into it once the tide started to come back in. No one ever injured themselves, no one ever drowned and no one ever complained.
P.s at 31 myself now and I still free wheel the shopping trolley down Safeways Isles.
The rubbing strips on the bottom of the shelves makes sure you dont wipe out too badly.
Andy
P.s at 31 myself now and I still free wheel the shopping trolley down Safeways Isles.
The rubbing strips on the bottom of the shelves makes sure you dont wipe out too badly.
Andy
24 May 2005, 07:57 AM
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He will have been fulfilling some NL target for beach inspection and sand castle regulation I imagine.
I suppose it won't be long before they fence off the sea completely since it will not be considered safe to allow the general public anywhere near it!
Les
I suppose it won't be long before they fence off the sea completely since it will not be considered safe to allow the general public anywhere near it!
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15 August 2005, 06:59 PM
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I heard this on the news and remembered this thread. Terribly sad but letting a 3-year old into a 5 ft deep sand hole? Like an adult jumping into an 8 ft deep hole. Sad.
15 August 2005, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ^Qwerty^
Me and the Mrs took our son (6 years) to the coast yesterday. After the usual visit to the arcades and having something to eat, we spent most of the afternoon on the beach.
Earlier in the morning I'd jokingly said to James, "if you dig down far enough, you'll reach Oz".
Anyway, we got to beach and we proceeded to do what most people do on the beach with young kids - dig holes and make sand castles.
So we dig and dig and dig and dig, until we have to make a secondary hole so that James could step down into the first one. When we'd finished, the hole was about 4ft deep.
Quick game of footy and making some sand castles and stuff, and a bloke from the Council comes up and says, "can I have a word". He basically said that our hole on the beach was a Health and Safety issue and asked that we fill it in.
He said, "a young child could fall in the whole and hurt themselves". I laughed, as I thought he was taking the pi55.
All credit to the gentleman from the council, he was always polite, but said that if I refused to fill in the hole, he would call the police
Anyway, the Mrs told me to fill the hole in to avoid any further aggravation, so that's what I did.
Has anyone else ever come across this, as I find it ridiculous that something that people have done for years and years, has suddenly become a h+s issue.
I'm tempted to go back in a few weeks time and dig an even bigger hole and then refuse to fill it in. It would be interesting to know what the police could do about it.
Earlier in the morning I'd jokingly said to James, "if you dig down far enough, you'll reach Oz".
Anyway, we got to beach and we proceeded to do what most people do on the beach with young kids - dig holes and make sand castles.
So we dig and dig and dig and dig, until we have to make a secondary hole so that James could step down into the first one. When we'd finished, the hole was about 4ft deep.
Quick game of footy and making some sand castles and stuff, and a bloke from the Council comes up and says, "can I have a word". He basically said that our hole on the beach was a Health and Safety issue and asked that we fill it in.
He said, "a young child could fall in the whole and hurt themselves". I laughed, as I thought he was taking the pi55.
All credit to the gentleman from the council, he was always polite, but said that if I refused to fill in the hole, he would call the police
Anyway, the Mrs told me to fill the hole in to avoid any further aggravation, so that's what I did.
Has anyone else ever come across this, as I find it ridiculous that something that people have done for years and years, has suddenly become a h+s issue.
I'm tempted to go back in a few weeks time and dig an even bigger hole and then refuse to fill it in. It would be interesting to know what the police could do about it.
have you seen the news, a kiddy died on a beach today something to do with a hole
ive just recently been on holiday and my daughter fell into a hole that had been dug by someone else.it is very hard to see things like that on the beach
but it doesnt mean you are irresponsible if this happens.
it takes a few seconds for an accident to happen and unless you have your eyes fixed on your child every second of the day there will be more accidents.
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15 August 2005, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Sorry but where was its parent?....
the parent could have been right next to her, she would have died silently
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15 August 2005, 07:19 PM
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Sorry but is doesn't take a second to dig a 5 ft hole......
I can remember taking our youngsters to the beach at that age. A nightmare watching them almost literally every second when they insisted on "paddling" and started to stray out a bit.......
I can remember taking our youngsters to the beach at that age. A nightmare watching them almost literally every second when they insisted on "paddling" and started to stray out a bit.......
15 August 2005, 07:24 PM
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tell me about it, its a nightmare, especially if the beach is crowded. ive let my daughter play with other kids a few feet from me, i wouldnt have known if there was a bigger hole than a 'safe' one.
most parent havnt got a clue, they treat the beach as a soft playground
5ft is a big hole though, but it could happen with a much smaller one
most parent havnt got a clue, they treat the beach as a soft playground
5ft is a big hole though, but it could happen with a much smaller one
15 August 2005, 08:44 PM
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My point was not that the 3 yr old was in the hole, and you can certainly say why were they. But it was to highlight the selfishness of the first post, that when someone asked them to fill in what they'd done, they objected. With things like this happening, go ahead, dig the hole, I don't demand NL H&S checks that you all ridicule - but please don't then leave it for other people to sort themselves out.
15 August 2005, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
My point was not that the 3 yr old was in the hole, and you can certainly say why were they. But it was to highlight the selfishness of the first post, that when someone asked them to fill in what they'd done, they objected. With things like this happening, go ahead, dig the hole, I don't demand NL H&S checks that you all ridicule - but please don't then leave it for other people to sort themselves out.
After digging holes on the beach, we have always filled them in before leaving, as I didn't want people falling in them. What I objected to (or questioned/laughed at) was having to fill in a hole while I was sat next to it, or in the immediate area around it (playing football for example). That is hardly selfish is it? Anyway, as I'd forgotton about this post, I did get a reply from the council saying that as a guide, and to avoid having to carry a tape measure on the beach, their general rule would be that any holes dug should approx. be as wide as they are deep
15 August 2005, 11:23 PM
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Apparently the father was stood right by the hole and saw it collapse in.
It appears that as fast as he cleared the sand it kept caving in again.
The little girl was reported to have been calling out for her mum
Horrendous, nightmare situation when you think about it.
It appears that as fast as he cleared the sand it kept caving in again.
The little girl was reported to have been calling out for her mum
Horrendous, nightmare situation when you think about it.
16 August 2005, 09:23 AM
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At the end of the day 100s of millions of kids inc myself have dug deep holes on beaches all over the world. It's just a freak but very sad accident and should be taken as that.
I have no doubt though that some idiot somewhere will be looking into how to make beaches safer.
Hell ,why not go the whole hog and put safety barriers around all the cliffs, harbours etc that surround the UK as well.
Chip
I have no doubt though that some idiot somewhere will be looking into how to make beaches safer.
Hell ,why not go the whole hog and put safety barriers around all the cliffs, harbours etc that surround the UK as well.
Chip
16 August 2005, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
you should no more be allowed to dig a 5ft hole on a public beach than you would be allowed to dig one in a public park.
16 August 2005, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
you should no more be allowed to dig a 5ft hole on a public beach than you would be allowed to dig one in a public park.
Chip
Damn you AJM, beat me to it