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Old 04 June 2005, 03:12 PM
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i love classic Scoobys, but i think this is the best front end of the subsequent breeds - although i do agree the grille will definitely need to be treated to some aftermarket treatment (and should look better for it). as far as non-classic cars go, i think its that bit more 'ok' than the others!
Old 04 June 2005, 03:16 PM
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in the words of Britney Spears..... oops, they did it again.

Old 04 June 2005, 08:44 PM
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Question Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Lets hope it looks better in the flesh.Or shall we pm Peter Stevens and save the 18mths.
Old 04 June 2005, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by johnfelstead
in the words of Britney Spears..... oops, they did it again.
LOL

Looks like you'll have to wait for the 2006/7 New 2 door model

Apparently going to be called either

1) TOKEN or TOKKAN (sp)
2) ELECTRA
3) TAMA

Tony

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Old 04 June 2005, 08:58 PM
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What an improvment.

Now that really does look mean !!!
Old 04 June 2005, 10:41 PM
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Who came up with the bright idea that a Subaru all of a sudden has to look like an Alfa/Seat?

Take the Alfa/Seat design off the grille and it will look good. Oh and ditch the roof spoiler, it makes no sense.
Old 05 June 2005, 12:25 AM
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Whats the obsession with the classic?

It was of its time, now it looks dated and going back would be a massive mistake.

The bugeye was a huge mistake, with the current car looking much better.

The MY06 gives the Impreza it's meanness back, something the current car sadly lacks besides the EVO 8.

As for the grille looking like an Alfa, have you seen Alfa's?

If anything it looks like Subaru are taking styling cues from BMW.


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Old 05 June 2005, 12:55 AM
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Judging by the other pics I have seen of the new M5, BMW are taking design ideas from Subaru - looks a lot ruder/more boy racer than other BMW's with it's fair share of grilles, spoilers, lexus lights and exhausts stuck on
Old 05 June 2005, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JAG1977
Whats the obsession with the classic?

It was of its time, now it looks dated and going back would be a massive mistake.

The bugeye was a huge mistake, with the current car looking much better.

The MY06 gives the Impreza it's meanness back, something the current car sadly lacks besides the EVO 8.

As for the grille looking like an Alfa, have you seen Alfa's?

If anything it looks like Subaru are taking styling cues from BMW.

exactly what i was thinking. m5 lights
Old 05 June 2005, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmy wrx
2.5 turbo = down the local dealer for ANOTHER new scoob
Old 05 June 2005, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by wwp8
Originally Posted by highlander68k
I've heard it should be the most powerful out-of-the-box Impreza STi we've seen yet (in Japan anyway).
more powerful than wr1? spec c?

somehow i doubt it
I was referring to the standard Impreza STi model only. The bhp figure seems to have been 'doctored' down to keep Japanese officials happy, but torque is definitely up on last years model.

The Spec C model has its extras and will no doubt be the ultimate JDM version to buy.
Old 05 June 2005, 11:57 AM
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not impressed...danger of scoob falling into the same pitfalls as mitsu. yearly updates, consumers get hacked off, then go buy something else as they can't keep up with things.

personally, not convinced by this. as someone else said, it's jsut a new front and back end. dynamically it'll not be much farther on than where it is right now, looks are certainly no huge step forward...**** end the same...what;s the point? seriously, mitsu and subaru have got into this thing too close to each other, and risk alienating consumers

dont' think i'll be buying one, too samey to the last one, dones;t move the game forward, nor do anything new in this sector.

for something new, exciting, moving the game on, check out the new Clio RS on the Renaultsport website. that IS moving on...can't see me buying another scoob for several years until they sort their game out...
Old 05 June 2005, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Comedy Si
not impressed...danger of scoob falling into the same pitfalls as mitsu. yearly updates, consumers get hacked off, then go buy something else as they can't keep up with things.

personally, not convinced by this. as someone else said, it's jsut a new front and back end. dynamically it'll not be much farther on than where it is right now, looks are certainly no huge step forward...**** end the same...what;s the point? seriously, mitsu and subaru have got into this thing too close to each other, and risk alienating consumers

dont' think i'll be buying one, too samey to the last one, dones;t move the game forward, nor do anything new in this sector.

for something new, exciting, moving the game on, check out the new Clio RS on the Renaultsport website. that IS moving on...can't see me buying another scoob for several years until they sort their game out...
Yearly updates? Minor upates, or improvements, maybe. The facelifts are on par with virtually every other vehicle on the road. This is only the third major styling change that the Impreza will have taken. The current, and new, Legacy are superb cars and would be difficult to improve without developing a completely different car. The Forester is what it is and those that buy them, love them - they are one of the highest forecourt sellers for many Subaru dealers. And the Outback.....ermmmmm...the Outback...never mind.

There is a lot more to this new model than meets the eye. It's hard to move the game forward when the technology works so well in the first place. There are some really great alternatives out there, including the Clio RS, VWs and Skodas. It's each to their own (as usual). Personally though, I think this is the best looking Impreza they've made yet. I can't wait to drive one.
Old 05 June 2005, 12:21 PM
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Agreed...i'm jsut not convineced this is anything new. i do agree the impreza does a huge amount right, but i for one i'm not convinced this is now 'of the time'. i jsut get the impression mitsu and subaru are still living in the 90s...maybe it's jsut the styling i have a problem with. it's very 'of the moment' - and lets be honest, that new scoob is defo a step backwardscome to think of it, i think it is the design...they stylists that subaru emply are damn awful. why ARE they so bad? is it so difficult to find some good people? i don;t think so...even with these new pedestrian rules, there must be certain wasy to still develop a good looking car...or is this jsut wishful thinking ofn my part?
Old 05 June 2005, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Comedy Si
.they stylists that subaru emply are damn awful. why ARE they so bad? is it so difficult to find some good people? i don;t think so...even with these new pedestrian rules, there must be certain wasy to still develop a good looking car...or is this jsut wishful thinking ofn my part?
I belive designers for everyday cars are getting worse too. Look at the Fiat Multipla, Hyundai ATOZ, the new Fiesta even.
Old 05 June 2005, 12:43 PM
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Just going back to my comment about power and torque. I had another look and don't think I've never seen anything quite like it. The torque peaks quite early and drops down quicker than Rivaldo.
Old 05 June 2005, 01:37 PM
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If the EVO and Scoob go smaller for 2007, we may well be all left looking elsewhere for a motor that can take the family and all. Maybe we should buy them while we can?
Cant really justify an M5 at the mo.
Old 05 June 2005, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Beastie
If the EVO and Scoob go smaller for 2007, we may well be all left looking elsewhere for a motor that can take the family and all. Maybe we should buy them while we can?
Cant really justify an M5 at the mo.
The Impreza will not go smaller. Subaru are looking at launching another completely independent model of vehicle into the range. The Impreza should be here for a few years to come, so get those M5 thoughts out of your head right now!
Old 05 June 2005, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by highlander68k
Just going back to my comment about power and torque. I had another look and don't think I've never seen anything quite like it. The torque peaks quite early and drops down quicker than Rivaldo.
Oh crap it's a turbo diesel
Old 05 June 2005, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Trashman
Oh crap it's a turbo diesel
LMAO

The same torque at 2100rpm as it has at 7000 rpm.

Mystery solved They've copied the dyno printout from Dazza01 while his exhaust was blowing badly!
Old 05 June 2005, 05:42 PM
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Torque, Power, engine capacity and turbo design (twin scroll...) are what matters to me.

The rest is just different make up on the same old girl.
Old 05 June 2005, 06:13 PM
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I bought a Impreza because it has 4 doors loads of space and 4-wheel drive and just enough power to beat most cars on the road in reason, So if the new scooby has all of the above then I might consider it even if it is ugly. And to be honest most brand new cars are ugly not just Subaru's every car manufacturer seems to make there cars look more and more uglier now days.
Old 05 June 2005, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MurrayZA
Torque, Power, engine capacity and turbo design (twin scroll...) are what matters to me.

The rest is just different make up on the same old girl.
You'll be happy then
Old 05 June 2005, 11:16 PM
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It looks spot on if you ask me, very nice
Old 06 June 2005, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by highlander68k
You'll be happy then
These babies were never designed to be pretty... Carl Lewis wasnt the prettiest face in athletics - but the world loved him cos he was FAST.

Form follows function - so generally they cant **** it up too much... I hope?
Old 06 June 2005, 06:12 AM
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okay so there i am i look t the link hen see that hideous car that ali-b has put up and i think what the hell is that. that can't be a scooby, no way. who in his right mind would buy that car. plus its a suzuki if i'm correct all was good when i clicked the first link ....... phew....

front end mmm nor too sure ... fog light guards need ditching ... bonnet scoop needs to be another what 25mm deeper and the lights you just know there off a 5 series beemer..... overall i kind of like it. front end needs more agression.... i like cars that make you think "oh ****" when there behind you on roads.
Old 06 June 2005, 02:24 PM
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What's going on with the little 'Ears' above the rear screen (Pic 2 from link)?
Old 06 June 2005, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Vonzack
What's going on with the little 'Ears' above the rear screen (Pic 2 from link)?
its a spoiler. it has 2. 1 large sti and one small hot hatch style diffuser
Old 06 June 2005, 04:35 PM
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The look is actually trying to be retro-Subaru. Early Subarus had an inverted trianglular bit on the grill. The first Subaru was even called the P-1.
http://www.subaru-global.com/about/h.../1954-001.html

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Old 06 June 2005, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by turbo wrx
Plus what the hell is that piece of plastic stuck near the top end of the rear windscreen, it looks so out of place.
Bluetooth ariel/transmitter like newer BMWs have on the roof??

But why it is there FFS god only knows


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