2006 Impreza update - Threads merged
#211
Sorry, thats what I meant the 2.5 litre STI version thats sold in Japan and Oz at the moment.
Originally Posted by compshack
And a SHED load of torque!!!
Mike I think what Moray is trying to say is, is the 2.5L STi engine going to be in the MY06 Sti Type UK? Or ANY STi for that matter?
Mike I think what Moray is trying to say is, is the 2.5L STi engine going to be in the MY06 Sti Type UK? Or ANY STi for that matter?
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#212
Originally Posted by compshack
And a SHED load of torque!!!
Mike I think what Moray is trying to say is, is the 2.5L STi engine going to be in the MY06 Sti Type UK? Or ANY STi for that matter?
Mike I think what Moray is trying to say is, is the 2.5L STi engine going to be in the MY06 Sti Type UK? Or ANY STi for that matter?
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....and gone will be that lovely flat four burble i presume with equal length headers on the new 2.5 ltr STI?
Pictures look ok of the new model in Auto express yesterday. Not as ugly i i thought it might look...quite agressive looking.
Pictures look ok of the new model in Auto express yesterday. Not as ugly i i thought it might look...quite agressive looking.
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I far as i am aware Japanese Regs prohibit the release of cars with more than 276bhp in Japan which is why all the these rally hybrids, skylines, 350z and NSX etc only have that figure or there abouts quoted for engine outputs.
I will stand to be corrected but that is what I have always been led to believe.
If they were to bring out the 2.5l STI engine then it would just me more Torquey and less revvy to stay under the regulation limits.
I will stand to be corrected but that is what I have always been led to believe.
If they were to bring out the 2.5l STI engine then it would just me more Torquey and less revvy to stay under the regulation limits.
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Originally Posted by aaronhowe
I far as i am aware Japanese Regs prohibit the release of cars with more than 276bhp in Japan which is why all the these rally hybrids, skylines, 350z and NSX etc only have that figure or there abouts quoted for engine outputs.
I will stand to be corrected but that is what I have always been led to believe.
If they were to bring out the 2.5l STI engine then it would just me more Torquey and less revvy to stay under the regulation limits.
I will stand to be corrected but that is what I have always been led to believe.
If they were to bring out the 2.5l STI engine then it would just me more Torquey and less revvy to stay under the regulation limits.
The gentlemans agreement has lapsed and consequently we are most likely going to get higher powered variants before too long
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Quoted here from some litriture
"The 22B, a WRC Impreza look-alike, contains some very elaborate parts in both its suspension, transmission and engine internals (a one piece steel crankshaft for instance). The car's output is only limited by Japanese regulations which set the maximum engine output of any Japanese car to 280 Bhp"
"The 22B, a WRC Impreza look-alike, contains some very elaborate parts in both its suspension, transmission and engine internals (a one piece steel crankshaft for instance). The car's output is only limited by Japanese regulations which set the maximum engine output of any Japanese car to 280 Bhp"
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Oh ok well good stuff then Roll on the 2.5s
Not that I could afford one anyway as I just bought an MY03STI and I don't think changing anytime soon is realistic
Not that I could afford one anyway as I just bought an MY03STI and I don't think changing anytime soon is realistic
#220
There is no regulation. It's an agreement, as far as horse power goes. However, with bigger horse power, on higher octain petrol, generally means bigger emission level, and there is a regulation on that.
So, technically, if they can get a cleaner engine, with higher output, they could... they just haven't done so. I guess with the increasingly popular tuning companies in Japan, manufactuers can leave the making of higher power monsters to the tuners. Everyone knows what a RB26DETT is capable of producing, and how limited it is made
So, technically, if they can get a cleaner engine, with higher output, they could... they just haven't done so. I guess with the increasingly popular tuning companies in Japan, manufactuers can leave the making of higher power monsters to the tuners. Everyone knows what a RB26DETT is capable of producing, and how limited it is made
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Originally Posted by GRIFF007
please stand and be corrected!
The gentlemans agreement has lapsed and consequently we are most likely going to get higher powered variants before too long
The gentlemans agreement has lapsed and consequently we are most likely going to get higher powered variants before too long
Read this in EVO magazine a while back. The Japanese Manufacturers are no longer having to say "Yes sir, the power output is 276BHP WINK WINK"
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Originally Posted by aaronhowe
I far as i am aware Japanese Regs prohibit the release of cars with more than 276bhp in Japan which is why all the these rally hybrids, skylines, 350z and NSX etc only have that figure or there abouts quoted for engine outputs.
I will stand to be corrected but that is what I have always been led to believe.
If they were to bring out the 2.5l STI engine then it would just me more Torquey and less revvy to stay under the regulation limits.
I will stand to be corrected but that is what I have always been led to believe.
If they were to bring out the 2.5l STI engine then it would just me more Torquey and less revvy to stay under the regulation limits.
how did the lan evo get past that btw??
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Originally Posted by EddScott
Read this in EVO magazine a while back. The Japanese Manufacturers are no longer having to say "Yes sir, the power output is 276BHP WINK WINK"
That agreement lapsed since last June. In fact, the car that has the highest rated power in Japan is the Honda Legend (300ps).
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Originally Posted by MurrayZA
2.5 JDM... hmmm - there is no respect for insurance premiums....
Now, I wonder if the 2.5 will be a twin scroll unit... ooo
Now, I wonder if the 2.5 will be a twin scroll unit... ooo
But then problems with changing engine number/spec and Insurance etc etc Which made me think
Better to by the 2.5Ltr version replace heads n Cams for a 2.0ltr ones sports Cat, Remap and Bobs your Uncle. a very nice Car with loads of Torque
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Originally Posted by pslewis
The FREE PPP Offer runs out at the end of July ...... hopefully we'll get a look before then - it will help decide whether its a winner or not and if the last of the Blob-Eyes will be 'the one to have' ... just like the last of the Classics, the MY00.
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Originally Posted by ChriSTi
are you telling me I should keep hold of my V6 WRX STI oct 99 on a v plate ??? (see piccy on profile), just when i've spent the last week on here asking peoples advice on a newer uk type sti ????
And yes, the MY99 is a better car than the MY00 - who gives a **** about having map-lights?
The ECU was better on the MY99. Fact.
I would also asy (as I've said before) - this new Subaru is as butt-ugly as the older "facelifts".
The more Subaru mess with a poor styling design (IMHO), the less rate my Classic depreciates!!!
Still it will be interesting to see what any new models look like
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#229
I have been on a different planet for the last 3 months (no Scoobynet, Autoexpress, nothing). And what do I see when I get back? – well, I am going back there! I mean, what is it that Subaru are trying to do to the Impreza?! Kill it? Sure the headlights are better, but that Nissan X-Trail nose-job on the grill!! Or is it a ploy to help sell the current version, and then bring the '07 version later. Remember their cynical statement on the old Bug-Eye? " We made lights so, that no one would steal car!" Yeh right, and no one buy either. If Hari Kari is still practiced in Japan, the chief stylist should show honour.
Great shame what they are doing to this beautiful Machine.
Great shame what they are doing to this beautiful Machine.
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They never actually confirmed its going to have a 2.5ltr engine, they speculated from their souce that it "may" have a 2.5ltr engine and the wrx "may" also have a power increase, though the 2ltr twin scroll will be a better option over the 2.5
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From the Litchfield site......
"Subaru’s ubiquitous 2.5lite (EJ257) block first appeared in the 300bhp US STI then later in the Forester XT/STI and soon in new 226/276bhp European models. The EJ257 has been a necessary development for Subaru as they expand in world markets and have to tackle increasingly tough emission levels such as the enforced EuroIV emission standards in January’06. This 2.5 engine has allowed Subaru to meet these requirements whilst maintaining their high performance philosophy."
So i would guess that the WRX has the 226hp version and the STi the 276hp version of the EJ257
"Subaru’s ubiquitous 2.5lite (EJ257) block first appeared in the 300bhp US STI then later in the Forester XT/STI and soon in new 226/276bhp European models. The EJ257 has been a necessary development for Subaru as they expand in world markets and have to tackle increasingly tough emission levels such as the enforced EuroIV emission standards in January’06. This 2.5 engine has allowed Subaru to meet these requirements whilst maintaining their high performance philosophy."
So i would guess that the WRX has the 226hp version and the STi the 276hp version of the EJ257
#233
Originally Posted by AndyC_772
So... the WRX gets an extra 4 bhp, and the STI gets 15. Impressive stuff from an extra 25% displacement
Get that free PPP while you still can
Get that free PPP while you still can
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Originally Posted by Harry_Boy
In Autocar....??
Seriously though, most 'scoops' seemed to have been featured in Auto Express. Generally with limited credibility....
Seriously though, most 'scoops' seemed to have been featured in Auto Express. Generally with limited credibility....
#235
2006 Scooby STi - Autocar - Pig Ugly?
Here is link
http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk/new...p?na_id=215506
dont know how to copy picture - not sure that I would want to.... - hold onto your Blobbys!
http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk/new...p?na_id=215506
dont know how to copy picture - not sure that I would want to.... - hold onto your Blobbys!
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#236
Originally Posted by DarkStar66
The Autocar pictures look the same as Auto Express so it's reasonable to say that it's the real thing.
#237
Originally Posted by GRIFF007
Here is link
http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk/new...p?na_id=215506
dont know how to copy picture - not sure that I would want to.... - hold onto your Blobbys!
http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk/new...p?na_id=215506
dont know how to copy picture - not sure that I would want to.... - hold onto your Blobbys!
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I must admit, I don't mind the front [flame suit on] in a Seat kind of way (or even Suzuki Baleno ), but those chavy rear lights would have to go. They look like a direct replacement for the 03-05 units so easy to swap. I think the word Grif's looking for is Zapitina'd