Evo vs impreza; pros and cons?
#61
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Originally Posted by C
The Evo to me is everything the Subaru wasn't.
Its horses for courses and the Evo suits me fine. The previous owner (who has posted in this thread , Hi Greg ) preferred what the Subaru had/has to offer and you cant knock anyone for preferring one car to another. Both have good and bad points but as far as running costs go I'm not sure there is an awful lot in it unless you do more than 10k miles a year
p.s lol @ the irony that the evo owner gets the corner
#62
Originally Posted by crush her
If you really want a car where 8 to 13 year old kids come up and ask you about it and want a ride..........no need for "want to see my puppies or have some of my sweets" with these cars
Of all the replys on here, your train of thought takes you to a reply like that.
If this is the way you think there must be something wrong, I am certainly not going to just sit here and ignore a comment like that
#63
As I see it, and from reading many road tests, the STi has more understeer. The Evo has more Oversteer. Went up against a Evo 6 last year on a back road when I had my Focus RS. I'm not lying, I was right up with him. His car was oversteering round most corners. I could see him applying opposite lock. For me, it seams like too much hard work. I personaly prefer a car to understeer more than oversteer, hence why I went for an STi. Lets not forget though that the MY05 STi has the `Spec C` suspension settings, which improves handling, cornering, etc over the MY04 STi.
Also the other issues which made me buy a STi instead of a Evo were the service intervals. Having to have the damn thing serviced every 4500 miles would get on my nerves. I also prefered the looks of the STi, both externally and internally.
So, which ever one you prefer the look of, get that one, cos in the real world with both cars driven by Joe Public, there's nothing in them. A STi PPP would stay whith a FQ340. Only on track, or if you stick a couple Ralley drivers in them would you se the difference. In my humble opinion.
STilover
Also the other issues which made me buy a STi instead of a Evo were the service intervals. Having to have the damn thing serviced every 4500 miles would get on my nerves. I also prefered the looks of the STi, both externally and internally.
So, which ever one you prefer the look of, get that one, cos in the real world with both cars driven by Joe Public, there's nothing in them. A STi PPP would stay whith a FQ340. Only on track, or if you stick a couple Ralley drivers in them would you se the difference. In my humble opinion.
STilover
#65
Originally Posted by stilover
His car was oversteering round most corners. I could see him applying opposite lock.
If an EVO 6 could not out run a focus RS then I would humbly suggest either a faulty AYC (hence the oversteer) or a poor driver. Also, its much easier to follow than to lead.
One thing I found about driving an EVO is not to 'pre-correct', it often feels as if the back is going to step out as the yaw rates increase and its easy to start to apply some corrective steering rather than leave it to the AYC. Once you know what it can do, you can cover ground at an amazing rate.
#66
I was at WRC tech this sunday lunchtime and I made more PAW than an MR340.
pointless, but I felt a little chuffed and with the suspension mods and lower power to weight I realised that scoobs can be coaxed into being a much better prospect than they are ever given credit for.
pointless, but I felt a little chuffed and with the suspension mods and lower power to weight I realised that scoobs can be coaxed into being a much better prospect than they are ever given credit for.
#67
Originally Posted by wanted
WTF!
Of all the replys on here, your train of thought takes you to a reply like that.
If this is the way you think there must be something wrong, I am certainly not going to just sit here and ignore a comment like that
Of all the replys on here, your train of thought takes you to a reply like that.
If this is the way you think there must be something wrong, I am certainly not going to just sit here and ignore a comment like that
actually that is quite true
in 2001, when i got my car i was parked up on sneinton (nott'm) [don't ask]
when a couple of kids was across the road staring at me (maybe 5-6 in early teens)
i thought to myself "what are they doing"
after a few minutes they wasn't there, instead they was behind my car,
one of them tapped my window, offered ME £5 to give them a ride up the road. i said NO, (then was about 5 minutes of conversation of why not) then they said can i rev the car for them to listen (std zorst at that time)
, i then made an excuse to leave, and they said can i run up the road quickly , i said i can't they maybe police around,
then he walked up the road and said it's ok theres none around
so...... just to satisfy them ...................
#68
Originally Posted by Peanuts
I was at WRC tech this sunday lunchtime and I made more PAW than an MR340.
pointless, but I felt a little chuffed and with the suspension mods and lower power to weight I realised that scoobs can be coaxed into being a much better prospect than they are ever given credit for.
pointless, but I felt a little chuffed and with the suspension mods and lower power to weight I realised that scoobs can be coaxed into being a much better prospect than they are ever given credit for.
Whats your car ?
Has it any mods ?
Did you know the MR 340 runs more than 340 infact nearer 350 STANDARD
And tell me what standard impreza runs more than 340 standard anyway
No- one said the impreza is a bad car its a great car.
#69
How come everyone seems to compare the MR FQ340 to the STi, I would have thought a Spec C and a FQ340 would be a more or a close call between evo and scooby as they seem to be the same price and performance etc. I would like to see how evo and scooby would compare from the list below.
FQ400 V Type 25
FQ340 V Spec C
FQ320 V WR1
FQ300 V WRX STi
VIII 260 V WRX
FQ400 V Type 25
FQ340 V Spec C
FQ320 V WR1
FQ300 V WRX STi
VIII 260 V WRX
#70
Originally Posted by scoobyboy1
How come everyone seems to compare the MR FQ340 to the STi, I would have thought a Spec C and a FQ340 would be a more or a close call between evo and scooby as they seem to be the same price and performance etc. I would like to see how evo and scooby would compare from the list below.
FQ400 V Type 25
FQ340 V Spec C
FQ320 V WR1
FQ300 V WRX STi
VIII 260 V WRX
FQ400 V Type 25
FQ340 V Spec C
FQ320 V WR1
FQ300 V WRX STi
VIII 260 V WRX
i disagree the fq400 has 405 bhp compared to the t25 at 350
and t25 isn't an official car from subaru
maybe like this
FQ340 V WR1
FQ320 V Spec C
FQ300 V WRX STi ppp
VIII 260 V WRX STi
Last edited by wwp8; 06 June 2005 at 10:43 PM.
#71
The thing that's putting me off buying the Evo is not so much the cost of the servicing, but the inconvenience of having to trail to the dealers every 4,500 miles just to have the fluids changed in the part of the car that prevents me from killing myself. Do other Evo owners admit this sours ownership ?
#72
i disagree the fq400 has 405 bhp compared to the t25 at 350
and t25 isn't an official car from subaru
and t25 isn't an official car from subaru
#73
Originally Posted by scoobyboy1
I didnt think the FQ400 was a official Mitsubishi car either, I might be wrong but im sure it was like the T25 and was built from a specialist company.
really? never knew that BUT t25 are only available at litchfields
whilst 400 are available at mits
#74
Originally Posted by scoobyboy1
I didnt think the FQ400 was a official Mitsubishi car either, I might be wrong but im sure it was like the T25 and was built from a specialist company.
#75
Every one seems to be moaning about the service intervals on an Evo being to often at 4500k...In my personal opinion, I dont see this as being to bad for a car that (for instance an Evo 6) is pushing 280-300 Bhp out of the factory!?
If so many people are moaning about the servicing, it leads me to my next question, how often do you service your scooby!? Cause for a high performance car like a scooby, that in most peoples case's on here are already modified from factory spec, 4500k service for your oils is realy what you should be doing anyway
And then people wonder why so many scoobys need re-building due to cranks going...
And wtf is with that "crush her" who made that sick twisted comment!?
I'd like to see what he drives?
Shimy.
If so many people are moaning about the servicing, it leads me to my next question, how often do you service your scooby!? Cause for a high performance car like a scooby, that in most peoples case's on here are already modified from factory spec, 4500k service for your oils is realy what you should be doing anyway
And then people wonder why so many scoobys need re-building due to cranks going...
And wtf is with that "crush her" who made that sick twisted comment!?
I'd like to see what he drives?
Shimy.
#78
Remember the WR1 has 5000 mile service intervals as well.
IMO, and from experience(Positives only):
Evo:
Quicker, more focused, better interior especially the seats in Leather , less common, more discreet.
Impreza:
Cheaper to run (mpg, insurance, servicing, consumables all totalled).
Sold the Evo to buy something more economical for a new job, maybe wouldn't have sold the Impreza if I had still owned it.
IMO, and from experience(Positives only):
Evo:
Quicker, more focused, better interior especially the seats in Leather , less common, more discreet.
Impreza:
Cheaper to run (mpg, insurance, servicing, consumables all totalled).
Sold the Evo to buy something more economical for a new job, maybe wouldn't have sold the Impreza if I had still owned it.
#79
2 p1s, 1 sti, 2 evos
Evo to go for if you can afford it. 18000 mile service plus new alloys and tyres, £2300. Totally and utterly rewarding though.
Both are fantastic cars, but i could use my Subarus every day for 3 years without a problem. The Evo is very expensive, so I use a Citreon diesel for work duties, which defeats the point of having a car like these.
Both have been 100% reliable though, although the 4500 mile service interval is staggering on the Evos
But the Evo really does the business for me - just! (apart from the sound which really is poor compared the Scoobies
Evo to go for if you can afford it. 18000 mile service plus new alloys and tyres, £2300. Totally and utterly rewarding though.
Both are fantastic cars, but i could use my Subarus every day for 3 years without a problem. The Evo is very expensive, so I use a Citreon diesel for work duties, which defeats the point of having a car like these.
Both have been 100% reliable though, although the 4500 mile service interval is staggering on the Evos
But the Evo really does the business for me - just! (apart from the sound which really is poor compared the Scoobies
#80
Do Evo's need octane booster as well as SU?
Originally Posted by phelpsa
If you can afford to buy and then run an evo then go for it. Alot of people on here would go for an Evo if it hadn't been for the extremely high running costs (more servicing, less economical etc.). Also, there is alot more to go wrong in an Evo.
Adam
Adam
#81
Evo's the uk ones are mapped to 97 RON uk fuel. So no they don't need Octaine booster. I think if you where going to track the car it would be beneficial for the car to use it though.
When I test drove a Evo recently the dealer was running a MR 340 on 95 RON.
It ran OK but all the power was missing it really does make a bit differance.
WR1's have a 5000 mile service point similar to the Evo, but the MY05 Sti which also has a adjustable centre diff has 10000 mile service points?
I would say mpg wise they are similar, but you don't buy either car for that.
When I test drove a Evo recently the dealer was running a MR 340 on 95 RON.
It ran OK but all the power was missing it really does make a bit differance.
WR1's have a 5000 mile service point similar to the Evo, but the MY05 Sti which also has a adjustable centre diff has 10000 mile service points?
I would say mpg wise they are similar, but you don't buy either car for that.
#83
Originally Posted by crush her
My advice would be to stay away from both unless you want to look like a paedophile.
#85
Fairly recently went from this...
to this
The best way I can think of to describe the difference in driving the two, is to say that the STi was just a little more padded out in every way. All the controls were just a little bit more spongey than on the Evo... which was great when I wanted to do runs down the motorway, but I've sinced moved to an every day car, plus the Evo for weekends. The thing I really miss is the character that the exhaust note brings to the STi (PPP with Afterburner back-box)... it's the one thing the Evo lacks for me.
Couldn't tell you for certain which one I prefer on looks though!
to this
The best way I can think of to describe the difference in driving the two, is to say that the STi was just a little more padded out in every way. All the controls were just a little bit more spongey than on the Evo... which was great when I wanted to do runs down the motorway, but I've sinced moved to an every day car, plus the Evo for weekends. The thing I really miss is the character that the exhaust note brings to the STi (PPP with Afterburner back-box)... it's the one thing the Evo lacks for me.
Couldn't tell you for certain which one I prefer on looks though!
#86
Originally Posted by scoobyboy1
How come everyone seems to compare the MR FQ340 to the STi, I would have thought a Spec C and a FQ340 would be a more or a close call between evo and scooby as they seem to be the same price and performance etc. I would like to see how evo and scooby would compare from the list below.
FQ400 V Type 25
FQ340 V Spec C
FQ320 V WR1
FQ300 V WRX STi
VIII 260 V WRX
FQ400 V Type 25
FQ340 V Spec C
FQ320 V WR1
FQ300 V WRX STi
VIII 260 V WRX
Regards,
Shaun.
#88
Big question for sure, two insanely capable cars that cost relatively little money (that’s relative to exotica). My first Scooby was a WRX PPP 04, simply loved it but wanted more of the same so the choice really was between 05 STi PPP or Evo FQ320. I thought long and hard about it and decided, rightly or wrongly, that the Evo was almost without character while the STi had real character, something that is missing in a lot of Japanese cars. Having bought a new 05 STi I have absolutely no regrets what so ever, I simply love the car
Originally Posted by tyron.c
Ive been browsing scoobynet for quite a while now as im looking to purchase a new car (not brand new!) in little over a months time.
I will be buying either an impreza or an evo, and to be honest i think at this point in time im gonna go for an evo.
Ive been reading tonight a thread with the pros and cons of both cars on an evo forum, obviously the views are biased by evo owners (lot of them x-subaru owners it seems!).
I thought it would be nice to hear things from a subaru point of view from you guys. Do you think the subaru is a better car? or would you all trade in for an evo?
Thanks guys.......
I will be buying either an impreza or an evo, and to be honest i think at this point in time im gonna go for an evo.
Ive been reading tonight a thread with the pros and cons of both cars on an evo forum, obviously the views are biased by evo owners (lot of them x-subaru owners it seems!).
I thought it would be nice to hear things from a subaru point of view from you guys. Do you think the subaru is a better car? or would you all trade in for an evo?
Thanks guys.......
#89
Originally Posted by tyron.c
Ive been browsing scoobynet for quite a while now as im looking to purchase a new car (not brand new!) in little over a months time.
I will be buying either an impreza or an evo, and to be honest i think at this point in time im gonna go for an evo.
Ive been reading tonight a thread with the pros and cons of both cars on an evo forum, obviously the views are biased by evo owners (lot of them x-subaru owners it seems!).
I thought it would be nice to hear things from a subaru point of view from you guys. Do you think the subaru is a better car? or would you all trade in for an evo?
Thanks guys.......
I will be buying either an impreza or an evo, and to be honest i think at this point in time im gonna go for an evo.
Ive been reading tonight a thread with the pros and cons of both cars on an evo forum, obviously the views are biased by evo owners (lot of them x-subaru owners it seems!).
I thought it would be nice to hear things from a subaru point of view from you guys. Do you think the subaru is a better car? or would you all trade in for an evo?
Thanks guys.......
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Originally Posted by Ex_Pug
Fairly recently went from this...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...rscenic_05.jpg
to this
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...wlights004.jpg
The best way I can think of to describe the difference in driving the two, is to say that the STi was just a little more padded out in every way. All the controls were just a little bit more spongey than on the Evo... which was great when I wanted to do runs down the motorway, but I've sinced moved to an every day car, plus the Evo for weekends. The thing I really miss is the character that the exhaust note brings to the STi (PPP with Afterburner back-box)... it's the one thing the Evo lacks for me.
Couldn't tell you for certain which one I prefer on looks though!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...rscenic_05.jpg
to this
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...wlights004.jpg
The best way I can think of to describe the difference in driving the two, is to say that the STi was just a little more padded out in every way. All the controls were just a little bit more spongey than on the Evo... which was great when I wanted to do runs down the motorway, but I've sinced moved to an every day car, plus the Evo for weekends. The thing I really miss is the character that the exhaust note brings to the STi (PPP with Afterburner back-box)... it's the one thing the Evo lacks for me.
Couldn't tell you for certain which one I prefer on looks though!
Lucky man!
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