Leslie

Yes RB5, thats probably the only way to get a reaction from the tall hatted gentlemen.

Les

Diablo

Nice to see the usual arsehole replies on scoobynet.

First off, what is hapening here is completely unnacceptable.

What you need to figure out is why are the dogs attacking your pup?

You haven't mentioned what breed the other dogs are which may, or may not be telling here.

The attacks are strange. It is very, very unusual for an adult dog of either sex to attack a pup.

Its also unusual for the dogs to believe that your property is their territory.

What is quite obvious, is that if your pup had been the subject of a serious attack, there would have been a great deal more damage than you have described. Thankfully here thats not been the case.

As for avoidance measures, there's a few things you can do.

Assuming there is no point in relying on your neighbour to guarantee no future attacks, you need to biold a safe enclosure for your own dogs.

If the other dogs encroach on your property, blast them with a water jet from a hosepipe. Its effective and as importantly its not cruel.

How would you feel if your collie when its grown up has a nip or a go at someone elses dog (as they are inclined to do) and that someone decides to kill your pet with a gravy soaked sponge????

Anyway, good luck with the owners and try and figure out why the dogs are attacking.

jasey

That's only if you don't kick it hard enough.

Dog's learn who's the leader - giving it a little toe poke wont teach it anything - you need to go for the Johny Wilko Conversion from 50 yards style kick for it to be effective (Oh and don't miss cos the dog will eat you).

The last line of defence should be violence against the dog - but it is the last line of defence. If the owner does nothing to control the dog you might have to (and you may not have time to get your hose pipe out).

OllyK

But they will soon be back to see if they are now stronger than you - leader of the pack and all that dominance isn't a one time hit, it needs to be reinforced regularly - no I'm not advocating using the dog as a football every weekend either

Crapaud62

Just to clarify a few points.

My dogs are border collies "sheepdogs". The dangerous dogs next door are labrador mised with collie. They are both brothers from the same litter. Apparently, it is not a good idea to have two male dogs who are brothers as they will always be fighting to establish dominance?

The attack was serious and it was only because my friend intervened so quickly that our dog was not more severely injured. As it was he sustained a bleeding paw and may loose a nail, he has other puncture wounds and internal bruising so it is certainly more than just "a nip".

I believe that these dogs are simply dangerous but of course I do not advocate cruelty towards them. I have never agreed with the comment about a gravy soaked sponge. My initial comment was said to the neighbour because I was extremely wound up by her attitude and because I wanted to shock her into taking the matter seriously. However, my ultimate concern remains for my dogs and if the dangerous dogs do come on to my property again and attack either my dogs or my kids then I would take whatever action was necessary to act in self defence.

As to why they attack either of my dogs, I wish I knew. As someone above has stated, some dogs are simply dangerous and not safe around other dogs and/or kids.

I suppose I have little to loose by giving them the vets bill as it may focus their attention.

OllyK

Labs tend to be pretty placid as a breed, collies can be a bit nippy and are prone to a genetic disorder than can make them nasty. It sounds to me like the dogs in question have not been socialised very well, with other dogs or humans, and have probably been left to get away with far too much when they should have been corrected.

If you are letting a dog out off a lead (you or you neighbour) then it really should be in an environment that ensure it cannot escape. For adult dogs this usually means 6 foot fences, unless it is a small sized dog. At the end of the day, as dog owners we are responsible for our pets, and that's a double edged sword, not only do we have to make sure they do not cause a problem for others, we also have to protect our dogs from others. Your dog sees you as its pack leader and expects you to protect it (not withstanding that it would no doubt come to your aid if needs be as well).

I think you need to continue to atempt a dialog with the neighbour and encourage them to make better efforts to secure their dogs while you do the same.

HTH - and good luck