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07 June 2005, 10:00 PM
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are you a pike fisherman then BP?
catching them on home made surface poppers is where its at skillwise
catching them on goldfish from the petshop is where its at funwise
18lb personal best for me
catching them on home made surface poppers is where its at skillwise
catching them on goldfish from the petshop is where its at funwise
18lb personal best for me
07 June 2005, 10:04 PM
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No, I'm just a plain coarse fisherman. I like tench and carp, but prefer traditional baits and methods because they're better for the ecosystem of the pond and they often w**k better as well.
All the gear = Carp is not an equation I believe in.
All the gear = Carp is not an equation I believe in.
07 June 2005, 10:23 PM
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Of course you're coarse, yer from yakshire
I know EXACTLY what you are saying, nothing better than going fishing and avoiding the tackle shop altogether. What could be better for the ecosystem of a small natural farm pond full of carp and tench, than 3 tins of luncheon meat,a couple of K's of hempseed, with a side order of green giant ?
I know EXACTLY what you are saying, nothing better than going fishing and avoiding the tackle shop altogether. What could be better for the ecosystem of a small natural farm pond full of carp and tench, than 3 tins of luncheon meat,a couple of K's of hempseed, with a side order of green giant ?
07 June 2005, 10:30 PM
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I caught my biggest ever common to a lobworm dangled in the margins. The bloke next door with his NASA fishing tackle ( 3 rods/optonics/boilies over chickpeas ) was as sick as a parrot. Laugh, I nearly got the beer in
07 June 2005, 10:34 PM
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this thread sucks!!!! i'm a very keen carp angler and very good at it!!!! i couldn't care less what anyone else thinks........how many 20s and 30s have you super duper coarse anglers had?????
07 June 2005, 10:54 PM
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as per the original post, sitting in a tent for 3 days waiting for a bite is not fishing IMO. Its all relative, a 2lb crucian on a light whip in a pond full of snags and lillies will present much more of a challenge that a 20'lb lumb hauled in from a resevoir with your 3lb test curve boat rods 
Apart from all that there is the cruelty aspect.....all fish, wether they weighh 2 or 20lbs hace mouths made of the same stuff yes?
hauling 2 lbs of that mouth out of the water is far less cruel that hauling 20lbs out, and big game fishing, I think its foul.
Apart from all that there is the cruelty aspect.....all fish, wether they weighh 2 or 20lbs hace mouths made of the same stuff yes?
hauling 2 lbs of that mouth out of the water is far less cruel that hauling 20lbs out, and big game fishing, I think its foul.
07 June 2005, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip Sengravy
as per the original post, sitting in a tent for 3 days waiting for a bite is not fishing IMO. Its all relative, a 2lb crucian on a light whip in a pond full of snags and lillies will present much more of a challenge that a 20'lb lumb hauled in from a resevoir with your 3lb test curve boat rods
Apart from all that there is the cruelty aspect.....all fish, wether they weighh 2 or 20lbs hace mouths made of the same stuff yes?
hauling 2 lbs of that mouth out of the water is far less cruel that hauling 20lbs out, and big game fishing, I think its foul.
Apart from all that there is the cruelty aspect.....all fish, wether they weighh 2 or 20lbs hace mouths made of the same stuff yes?
hauling 2 lbs of that mouth out of the water is far less cruel that hauling 20lbs out, and big game fishing, I think its foul.
07 June 2005, 11:01 PM
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The thing with having alarms and rod pods means you can sit about having a laugh with your mates though instead of having to stand/sit there concentrating 100% on watching a float in case it moves a mm up or down in the water or waiting for the rod tip to bend if ledgering. Done the coarse fishing thing and left it for carping, much more enjoyment imho. Can sit there and banter all day long and relax, plus can sleep on the lovely huge bed chair I have if I had a heavy night the night before and if a fish bites the alarm lets me know
07 June 2005, 11:14 PM
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I don't deny there is skill in carp fishing, but its all too scientific isn't it? Of course you have to get the fish over your bait, and presention is everthing, as is position. But that is where the skill ends, the rest is just beer, patience and calour gas.
bolt rigs......
bolt rigs......
07 June 2005, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip Sengravy
I don't deny there is skill in carp fishing, but its all too scientific isn't it? Of course you have to get the fish over your bait, and presention is everthing, as is position. But that is where the skill ends, the rest is just beer, patience and calour gas.
bolt rigs......
bolt rigs......
07 June 2005, 11:21 PM
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You can't hit far out features coarse fishing. The 21lb carp my mate had at the weekend was from hitting the end of an island about 75-100yds out (yes using very big ledgers to cast that far) He was fishing to the features and it paid off. The end he was hitting had the water/wind direction coming towards it and he was getting loads of runs from that spot. I was fishing further along the island and not so close to it and was getting nothing all day. He also had a 2nd rod in the margins and again had not one run from that. Islands produce good fish and they are not normally accessable with light tackle. Hearing those bite alarms go off and seeing the reel scream round is a real adrenaline hit, thats what keeps me going back for more 
07 June 2005, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by richiewong
Hope you meant semi fixed bolt rigs
....spods
....spods
but why would we care about such gorgous creatures.......
07 June 2005, 11:28 PM
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same difference, semi or not
It's like the method, the timing and skill has been removed from the fishing, the job is half done by the tackle. Maybe that's a cynical view, but the fish are already beaten, that for me takes the "sport" out of the sport.
It's like the method, the timing and skill has been removed from the fishing, the job is half done by the tackle. Maybe that's a cynical view, but the fish are already beaten, that for me takes the "sport" out of the sport.
07 June 2005, 11:32 PM
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Don't agree with you in the slightest there, how is using a semi bolt rig any different to swing tipping ledgering some sweetcorn or a feeder full of maggots? In fact I would say the coarse ledgering is worse as quite often the line is held under the water with fixed weights. If the line breaks those weights arn't coming off, just the same as weights suspended below a float.
07 June 2005, 11:36 PM
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B2Z..enlighten me to the merits/design of a semi fixed bolt rig then.
My point is, is that of the most carp fishing techniques (sp
) are designed to "self hook" the fish, timing and skill
My point is, is that of the most carp fishing techniques (sp
) are designed to "self hook" the fish, timing and skill
07 June 2005, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
Don't agree with you in the slightest there, how is using a semi bolt rig any different to swing tipping ledgering some sweetcorn or a feeder full of maggots? In fact I would say the coarse ledgering is worse as quite often the line is held under the water with fixed weights. If the line breaks those weights arn't coming off, just the same as weights suspended below a float.
Have to admit caught a few large crap with small hooks still in their mouths
Still goes to show they are capable of feeding well, also carried good old karp klinic with me
07 June 2005, 11:40 PM
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well ive only started back fishing again this year, and ive never really carp fished until now. so far ive landed about 15 carp in 3 outings all caught from the top on match gear, biggest about 9lb. ive enjoyed it cus its exciting and on light tackle they take a bit of getting out. good fun imo.
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The merit of a semi fixed bolt rig is that if the line snaps the weight will come free from the rig preventing the fish from having to drag around a heavy weight suspended from its mouth. A fixed rig doesn't do this and will result in the death of the fish.
I think you will find floating a piece of bread in mid summer using the same rod and line but a float ball instead of a ledger does take a lot of skill in catching the carp. This method though is only really for perfectly still days and fairly small waters. Big carp waters on wet/windy days require ledgering and at a distance to get to the deep water.
I think you will find floating a piece of bread in mid summer using the same rod and line but a float ball instead of a ledger does take a lot of skill in catching the carp. This method though is only really for perfectly still days and fairly small waters. Big carp waters on wet/windy days require ledgering and at a distance to get to the deep water.
08 June 2005, 02:22 AM
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I'm no expert but carp are greedy beggars and will eat almost anything. Depends on how heavily fished the water is. A pva bag almost always works IMHO or so i'm led to believe. Ask Pauleds2, he's the expert HTH
08 June 2005, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by steffiraf
I'm no expert but carp are greedy beggars and will eat almost anything. Depends on how heavily fished the water is. A pva bag almost always works IMHO or so i'm led to believe. Ask Pauleds2, he's the expert HTH
08 June 2005, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I certainly agree that a big fat lobworm is as good a bait as any for so many types of fish.
Les
Les
I'm liking this thread.
Especially the bit where peachy said "this thread sucks".
