jon77

LOL I knew those mind reading lessons would come in handy one day!

dpb

if you mapped the fabia did the brakes and suspension ....youd be pretty close to the ibiza price.......no.?.........plus arguably v.slightly better looking

jon77

Yes but a remapped vRS will still be 10-20bhp down on a remapped Cupra plus there is the small matter of the Cupra's FMIC. As everyone knows there a a lot of pitfalls to modding a car to that extent ie warrenty, insurance etc. At least with a simple remap you you stand more chance of getting away with it.
Looks are a personal thing, I think the Cupra is more aggressive looking and looks more like a hot hatch compared to the vRS but each to their own.
I do actually really like the Fabia and for the price you really cant go wrong, I have sat in one and it does feel like you are sitting in a top quality VAG car wich is something you dont experience as much in the Ibiza.

dpb

thanks jon ... FMIC eh ...didnt realise
I thought the ibiza was vag
-take on board all your other points...

ah well maybe ill pex the xsara one of these days.
before i get another scooby in a couple of years....

jon77

Yeah I meant the Ibiza feels less like a VAG quality car compared to the Fabia, in the Fabia you feel like you are sitting in a VW or Audi. The Ibiza on the other hand does not feel as solid and the interior plastics are more cheap looking compared to the Fabia and the rest of the VAG range but it is still well enough bolted together and its in a different league to the likes of the Clio for build quality.

logiclee

My local Skoda dealer has a friendly partnership with a local well know tuner. The main dealer even offers remaps.

Recently they had a Fabia vRS demonstrator with 230bhp 350lbft (Revo remap and NOS), full exhaust system, PD160 intake, FMIC, coilover suspension, 17" Alloys and Octavia vRS brakes. A very interesting drive.

As regards warranty I suppose it's how honest the dealer is with Skoda UK.

Cheers
Lee

Andy M3

Not wanting to mislead people - i assume your power quotes are including nos, as a Fabia will not reach that power on an exhaust and remap alone.

I know one company that has 215hp and 320-330 lb/ft - but that has had a different turbo / intercooler and exhaust as well as a custom map.

With different maps available - on a standard turbo intercooler set up you are looking between 170-185 hp and 295-330 lb/ft. Remember these figures are at on point only - but a look at the '2.0 audi repamp thread' will demonstrate the way 2 maps can work with power and torque delivery.......

logiclee

Yes Andy.

180bhp Remap and 50bhp NOS.

Suspect the remap power would actually be a little higher as 180bhp is obtainable without the exhaust and induction mods.

Will have a look at the other thread.

Cheers
Lee

Andy M3

HERE IS MY POST:

This is typical graph of a REVO or Jabba sport



This is custom code:



These cars are the older 1.9 PD stuff, but the principle is the same.

http://www.custom-code.co.uk/

Andy

The_Titanium_Knob_Man

I've run some real driving tests and no way near is this car 0 - 100 in 30 secs.......in standard form its more like 23 seconds and I def got under 9 seconds to 60 and that was with a sympathetic launch. The official figures are way off!!

I know 23 secs to 100 isnt fast but bearing in mind thats in standard form and then you chip it.........

Also the 6th gear acceleration is way above some performance hatches....if you dont believe me, put your hot hatch in top gear and gvie me the number of seconds it took to go from 70 - 100 mph .

yes, yes I hear you cry, but I would change down.......yeah well while your changin.....I'm acceleratin.........

kbsub

Just been down to local Skoda dealers to see what all the fuss about , and I really liked it , much better in the flesh than in the pics he gave me a copy of Autocars long term test


" The Fabia brings Golf class standards of interior trim to the super mini class , its as grown up a little car as money can buy and in vRS form its got adults only performance too , for the money , nothing can match its pace frugality and practicality . as a ownership proposition its pretty bullet proof "


I have been thinking about another performance car since getting rid of the STI PPP but the cost of ownership just put me of , just want something fun to drive without the looks of a full on rally rep and without the expense

Think Skoda might have another sale coming there way

bluto22b

Are you a pleb?

mattvortex

no, i just like to make good progress-are you a sandle-wearing sunday driver?

bluto22b

Yes I have a pair in oak brown actually and I do do drive on Sundays usually in my classic Austin Maxi 1750HL in russet brown. The rest of the week I have a spirited drive down the A11 in my MY02 WRX wagon. One thing I do not do is go over 80 mph There IS a speed limit in the UK you know.

Blutes

Fabioso

Yawn.....if he wants to break the speed limit its his licence.............

The amount of people I see in the 3rd lane of the motorway doing 90+

I would say the majority of people break 80.......well apart from the sandal lovin brigade and the fookin down right dangerous ***** doing 45 mph with that vacant look of 'idiot' written all over their faces.

mattvortex

well said that man!

Soulgirl

lol - that made my Sunday

Christ

I dont either, not until the snow clears anyway...

You surely cant be serious??

misty

He's havin' a laugh!!! Even the guy in gutter cleaner goes 85 on a stretch of the M6 near me
dave

Jamesemt

Never go over 75 down the motorway - you are a sitting target.

Back roads are a bit different, though

missyc

Doesn't have the cornering capabilities/confidence of the scoob, but when the roads open up, it certainly makes up for it

PS that 2nd smooth graph looks fairly similar to mine

TaviaRS

Misty,

Diesels are slow. They would be no match for you mighty CTR; on the road, "in the real world" or round a track.

I am so convinced that you and I are both right that I'd be happy for you to show me just how much quicker round a track your CTR would be than my humble (and inordinately slow) diesel is. Then there'd be no more arguements, eh?

HTH

streetbeats

the original quote said 0-120 for a-road overtaking.

120 is twice the speed limit on a roads, and theres not that many streteches of uncongested a-road where that sort of speed is safe, especially not for an overtaking manouvre..

streetbeats

gauntlet laid...

dtriggs

I have now had a REVO remap on my vRS and it most definitely is a performance car now. The car pulls all the way where previously it had nothing left at the top end. On the motorway it is fantastic too as there is so much torque to call on at any time.

They claim 180 bhp and about 290-300 ibft torque.

logiclee

Misty,

Please please take up the challenge and go head to head with Jons Octavia "SDi".
It would be most amusing to watch.

Would you fare better than a scoob?

Lap1


Lap2


Cheers
Lee

matchmaker

It looks as if Jon has scared Misty off - he's sold the CTR and bought a Beemer

misty

Would have loved to obliged mate Thing is I don't have the CTR anymore!!! If you come on here regularly you know how often I change my cars!!CTR's.............Load of crap mate
dave

misty

Jon
I did have a test in the seat ibiza 160!!!!!!!!! Well impressed. Not to sure about the Vrs though looked and felt a little cheap in the seating department.
dave