FFS - Here we go AGAIN!!!!!!!!
07 June 2005, 01:15 PM
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Every time the car corners it feels as if the rear end wants to come around, I know you say this is part the the "passive" rear sterring - but it just feels plain odd, and dangerous.
I would like to drive another GTi 6 to see how if feels along side yours.
I would like to drive another GTi 6 to see how if feels along side yours.
07 June 2005, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
Every time the car corners it feels as if the rear end wants to come around, I know you say this is part the the "passive" rear sterring - but it just feels plain odd, and dangerous.
I would like to drive another GTi 6 to see how if feels along side yours.
I would like to drive another GTi 6 to see how if feels along side yours.
First question I asked on GTi-6 forum as it did feel weird.
That thing can fly round corners, handling is spot on, if a little different to conventional (weel, no passive rear steered cars). Feels like it's coming out - it's not, its the passive rear steer pivoting, rear wheels turn in a little too thus giving the weird feeling.
Keep it planted, it's all good.
07 June 2005, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
....don't keep it planted because you come around a corner to find a crashed car or a yellow flag....hello armco.
07 June 2005, 01:27 PM
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...I think the problems are connected.
When you brake hard the rear goes light and moves around, just as it does when you are cornering withough any power.
When you brake hard the rear goes light and moves around, just as it does when you are cornering withough any power.
07 June 2005, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
...I think the problems are connected.
When you brake hard the rear goes light and moves around, just as it does when you are cornering withough any power.
When you brake hard the rear goes light and moves around, just as it does when you are cornering withough any power.
The braking problem feels to me as though it's pulling from the front rather than pushing from the rear though.
Perhaps there are 2 concurrent problems combining to make 1 big ****??
07 June 2005, 01:57 PM
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You said you had the tracking done? Just that? As thats only the toe in, or did you have a full laser alignment of camber, caster etc done as well. You might find your camber is well fooked, that would defo cause it to pull under braking............
07 June 2005, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyJawa
You said you had the tracking done? Just that? As thats only the toe in, or did you have a full laser alignment of camber, caster etc done as well. You might find your camber is well fooked, that would defo cause it to pull under braking............
But wouldn't it pull to one side, everytime??
when I say pull I mean PULL as though something is ripping the car offline.
07 June 2005, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
What are your dealer doing about it right now? Or have they just said they cant find the problem?
07 June 2005, 02:32 PM
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What has been said on 306GTi forum about it?
I would be steering towards a brake piston not performing or something like that? get them wheels off and have as look at the pads. I know you said they have been checked but I never believe it till i see it myself. A knackered piston will show its as one pad will be wearing and the other not.
If not that then while the car is jacked up lets have a look at all the componants in that area ARB, drive shaft, wishbones, check that all the bolts are done up and nothing looks a miss. Do it both sides.
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I would be steering towards a brake piston not performing or something like that? get them wheels off and have as look at the pads. I know you said they have been checked but I never believe it till i see it myself. A knackered piston will show its as one pad will be wearing and the other not.
If not that then while the car is jacked up lets have a look at all the componants in that area ARB, drive shaft, wishbones, check that all the bolts are done up and nothing looks a miss. Do it both sides.
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07 June 2005, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
Did Gutmann's wife drive it for a bit? 
07 June 2005, 03:13 PM
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I can sympathise. Booked mine in yesterday to have the front and rear pads changed. Drove it out at 6pm (all gone home), touch the brakes, noise from rear audible at low speeds. I'm sure the brakes aren't as good as they were. Told wife. This morning she texts me "the car makes a noise like when you are cutting metal with your angle grinder" 
Now just texted me "Something fell off, so I picked it up. Noise has stopped now." I phoned her, she described it, sounds like a brakepad shim 
And that's a routine service on a 2-yr-old car.
Now just texted me "Something fell off, so I picked it up. Noise has stopped now." I phoned her, she described it, sounds like a brakepad shim And that's a routine service on a 2-yr-old car.
07 June 2005, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
But wouldn't it pull to one side, everytime??
when I say pull I mean PULL as though something is ripping the car offline.
when I say pull I mean PULL as though something is ripping the car offline.
07 June 2005, 03:30 PM
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I would be bloody pissed off if the dealer, the people that are supposed to be the experts, cant find the problem that is quite obviously there and then they tried to charge me for it. I would tell them to stick there money once i had obviously just nipped out to my car to fetch my cheque book. 
07 June 2005, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
I can sympathise. Booked mine in yesterday to have the front and rear pads changed. Drove it out at 6pm (all gone home), touch the brakes, noise from rear audible at low speeds. I'm sure the brakes aren't as good as they were. Told wife. This morning she texts me "the car makes a noise like when you are cutting metal with your angle grinder" Now just texted me "Something fell off, so I picked it up. Noise has stopped now." I phoned her, she described it, sounds like a brakepad shim And that's a routine service on a 2-yr-old car.
Now just texted me "Something fell off, so I picked it up. Noise has stopped now." I phoned her, she described it, sounds like a brakepad shim And that's a routine service on a 2-yr-old car.Jonts.
a Rav4 diesel.
07 June 2005, 06:27 PM
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Asumming it does this on a normal, flat road surface, rather than the worn out cr*p we normally get to drive on.
Does it have non-standard alloys with different offset?
Have the lower suspension bushes and mountings been checked out?
It's interesting (from a distant 3rd party POV) to read that it happens in either direction.
Does the car have ABS? Could that be playing up?
I second the nomination above: Take one of the senior techs out in the car on a deserted car park or similar and show them what happens.
J.
Does it have non-standard alloys with different offset?
Have the lower suspension bushes and mountings been checked out?
It's interesting (from a distant 3rd party POV) to read that it happens in either direction.
Does the car have ABS? Could that be playing up?
I second the nomination above: Take one of the senior techs out in the car on a deserted car park or similar and show them what happens.
J.
Last edited by vindaloo; 08 June 2005 at 12:42 AM. Reason: Less specific and less stoopid ABS question... :)
07 June 2005, 07:06 PM
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personally I'd reckon it was related to the rear suspension.
Forget taking it to any of the main dealers to get it fixed, if it was me I'd count myself lucky for only being charged £108...
If it's not in their workshop manual or fault tree chart- forget it.
Forget taking it to any of the main dealers to get it fixed, if it was me I'd count myself lucky for only being charged £108...
If it's not in their workshop manual or fault tree chart- forget it.
07 June 2005, 09:32 PM
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Pad material problem?? More a stab in the dark, but maybe they're behaving differently on different sides when they heat up???
Flexi hoses expanding (assuming they haven't been replaced with braided items)
Flexi hoses expanding (assuming they haven't been replaced with braided items)
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