flat4_ire

this site would put anyone off buying a scooby! i live in southern ireland, and 95ron is the best u can get!! i know 4 or 5 import scoobs including 22b that use 95 and OB and they havent had even half of the problems u lot go on about from fuel etc etc!! my friend has a 95 wrx run on 95 and no OB and it has 191,000klms on it,runnin fine! something weird there lads

pslewis

Thank you, what I don't like is the way myths and scare stories abound around this site ..... those that don't know would never buy a Subaru (after all it about as reliable as a TVR on a very bad day!!) ........ if all was true!

The fact remains:- If you mess about with these cars and expect it to deliver 400BHP without complaint, then you are about to blow you engine!!

Pete

P.S leWiS

This man is correct,

dij

Ok so the oil change procedure isnt required,a new maf isnt required,and the engines dont blow up or melt down right?

So why have subaru retarded the map on the later models ie decreased the power output?
Why is the my99 maf sensor replacement different from the original?
Why is there still people with blown engines under 50k miles with fsh and unmodified?
Why have the newage models got updated lambdas,mafs etc and still not pushing out more power than the classics?

There is a reason why people are constantly debating these **** procedures,the engines do let go,and as much as all would like to disbeleive it,subaru have have cocked up somewhere (IMO) and then tried to sort out the problem with revised maps,updated mafs etc.

Mr lewis,you are very entertaining and add flavour to otherwise boring threads.but your engine will probably last longer than most others just because you drive carefully (im assuming from your mpg,brake life,other comments) and dont take your impreza above 4k revs.

I take it yo havent had any engine failures in your scoobyhthen?
If you did and had to fork out the money for a replacement/rebuild then im sure you would be filling your oil filters and storing them in a vacum container a month before also and disconnecting spark plugs crank and all other sensors too.

Unfortunately,most others do push their scoobies,and drive them like most would assume they are capable of being driven,thats when traffic/disco lights,**** sucker links etc become important because these engines 'will' pop.

Back on topic
weather you beleive it or not,the MAF sensors are crap on the my99-00 and should be treated as a service item.....for the sake of £77 its not worth risking £3000 engine costs just coz ps lewis's engine is still ok.

flat4_ire

ok **** this, i gonna go on my own again, i tink most of u guys who blow engines etc are just actin the ****!! as i said, several of my friends have inport imprezas,run on 95 ron and no probs!
!i dunno what u fookin do to ur scoobs but u obvuiously feel the need for knocklinks and all this **** to freak u out! its kinda startin to **** me off now guys..rite here i go..i have a 98 V4 STi Type R imported fresh last week, runnin it on 95 and cvl turbo millersl its flying! serviced and mechanic says one of cleaneset he has seen, runnin on 95 fine,, u all say here "oh my god,hope u have deep pockets runnin it on 95", can u english people not drive your scoobies properly or what the ****!!???

pslewis

Have they now? Where did you get that info from? and it could be for a million reasons, like emmissions/fuel consumption/etc. Evidence that Subaru have retarded due to the MAF Myth! Otherwise its JUST your opinion (valid, but open to huge debate)


Is it? and how is it? The green dot? ...... OK, its got a green dot - please supply the modification data on a new MAF versus an old MAF. Or, again, its just your opinion.


What % is this? How many have been 100% the fault of the MAF? again please supply evidence and not simply 'what the geeks said down the meet'


Subaru will develop and design new parts with new function on a new car - please supply evidence that Subaru have changed as a direct result of massive engine failures due to the MAF.


Sorry, your arguement falls down completely as its based on heresay and a 'feeling' and not fact.

I can state one FACT:- If the Impreza Engine had a massive fault like some are claiming , then Top Gear, 5th Gear, Magazines, etc. etc. would have blown the whistle LONG ago ............ they haven't!!

What they DO say is, "These cars are as reliable as anything on offer - if they go wrong then they go wrong because some monkey has messed about with it"!!!!

Pete

16vmarc

Isnt Pete great!!!!!!!!

Delboy2

When reputable engine builders/tuners suggest that - (A Reply by APIDAVID's in another thread who has built in excess of 650 subaru engines) It wouldn't be something that could be easily ignored or overlooked - If a small majority like pslewis decide otherwise then so be it - let them learn the hard way

dij

So top gear and fifth gear would know all about this sort of thing ?

I watch it sometimes and do recall Jeremy clarkson quoting something about subarus being the most unreliable car of the year,this was taken from an AA poll or something,but JC didnt beleive it replying with "a subaru isnt unreliable".


Anyway,if you dont beleive that engines go bang and you want evidence etc then thats your problem,you own a scooby,I dont anymore.
I wont buy another one untill I stop hearing about premature engine failures,and constant repetative debates with top engine builders/mappers etc,regarding det,meltdown,KL's,lambda links,lean running,oil esthers,**** procedures,MAF sensors,remapping etc.

All the so called crap that is circulating on this forum is from hundreds of scooby owners/tuners/mappers/rebuilders that are trying to combat a problem that these cars have...ie the engine problem
No one has said that all problems are MAF related but its relatively inexpensive to replace and IMO (and most others opinions) will make a posotive difference.

Everyone has different experiences with their scooby and just because your car has never blown an engine,it dosent mean that it wont,no matter how carefull/**** you are(not wishing it upon anyone).Ofcourse if you drive it like a pensioner then it will outlive your grandchildren,but drive it to the red line (the factory set limiter)and over 110 mph (even though the gearing on most scoobs is set to do 145+)without any aftermarket safety measures and youre in dangerous territory.

Back on topic
A KL (or **** link) is usefull (even if you think it looks crap as I do)as you dont know if youre getting det and waiting for something to go wrong before doing something about is not wise.

PSLEWIS,perhaps you could ask a subaru dealer if they sell many MAF sensors and if they have ever come across premature engine failures,the chances are the answer will be no,but watch their noses carefully as they will probably grow......

pslewis

Top Gear and 5th Gear and AutoCar and all the rest would VERY soon get to hear about Subaru Engines blowing up regular!!

To think otherwise is stupidity

Pete

Can you find some buying advice that states the Subaru Engines are weak??

Alberick

Do I get a price for the "most viewed thead this year within a month"??
Guys, stop it, it's starts to become ridiculous, I never did the **** oil change procedure either, and I just changed my MAF on recommendation of a renowned ECUTEK tuner, whatever if is a serious issue or just to make some money, I don't care.....

Ramon

dij

OK,I cant find anything to sugest that subaru engines are weak (havent looked TBH),so I suppose the logical thing would be to assume that there isnt a problem with subaru's engine or management,and all advice other than from main agents,top gear etc should be ignored and treated as **** crap.

How silly we all are to put ourselves through so much unneccessary crap,
wasting time on long winded oil change procedures,money on silly gizmos with flickering lights,stressing on what petrol station to fill up from etc,why not just follow the user manual like you would with any other car?
Its always worked for me with any other car ive ever owned or known (except for the RX7),and then the scoob has had very good ratings with the JD power survey too,so anyone worrying about their scooby is just paranoid.......right?

Yet here we are talking about this subject again (**** knows how many times its been discussed already on SN)

what would sn be without all this? and what would you do or think if you had an extremely 'rare' case of premature engine failure?

dij

well done

case closed

pslewis

OK, case closed ............ most realise its mainly bollox

BUT

If it makes you feel better ........... do it

Pete