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Old 15 June 2005, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by darts_aint_sport
What about the thousands of people who ACTUALLY wanted to go to the concert, only to be drowned out by all those who just wanted to make a quick few quid.
So what? They contributed to the charity, so they have done their bit. If we are all as charity minded as you, we would have texted but not cared that we didn't get tickets, satisifed with doing our bit by texting for £1.50.

No one has done anything wrong here. The charity has not lost any money, in fact, it has gained because alot of people (myself included) would not have bothered texting except for the possibilty of selling the tickets on. I have no interest in going to that gig, so my greed has actually increased the money that Geldof raises.

It's a sick old world eh?

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Old 15 June 2005, 02:54 PM
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i would go to the concert... but i'd be well bored.. so i'd rather not
Old 15 June 2005, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by eClaire
Still equally immoral.
How can selling something you legally own be imoral?
Old 15 June 2005, 02:58 PM
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well im trying to make my own (blair induced) poverty history......by selling something i legally own.
geldof can suck my ****
Old 15 June 2005, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by darts_aint_sport
It's a free concert devoted to raising awareness of the plight of people in the third world and their debt. It is sad to think that so many people here think it's okay to rip people off. I'm with you eClaire.
Pardon my ignorance but if the tickets for this gig are free exactly how are they proposing to raise any money to give to the dictators and corrupt government of these African countries, which didn't make a bean of difference 20 years ago either??????????

are they planning on selling Coka Cola and popcorn at exhaubitant prices or summat???

Sorry but Sideshow bob gets my support aswell!!!! nothing will change from this gig.
Old 15 June 2005, 03:43 PM
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I am overcome with apathy and indifference by Bob's message. If you want to donate to Live 8 then donate but judging on past history it will sadly have little to no impact. I've chosen to raise and donate money for other causes including the RNIB, the NSPCC and Guide Dogs for the Blind - are these any less deserving causes as Bob would have me believe?
Old 15 June 2005, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
Pardon my ignorance but if the tickets for this gig are free exactly how are they proposing to raise any money to give to the dictators and corrupt government of these African countries
It's about raising awareness and putting pressure on the G8 to cancel the debt, not directly raise money from the concerts.
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Originally Posted by darts_aint_sport
It's about raising awareness and putting pressure on the G8 to cancel the debt, not directly raise money from the concerts.
A ha I C !
Old 15 June 2005, 03:55 PM
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Do you honestly believe that if the debt is cancelled the corrupt governments in the worst affected countries will spend it on food and shelter and infrastucture for their impoverished populations? Get real! They will use the extra money to line their own pockets, buy weapons and palaces and hammer the poor buggers Geldof is puportedly helping even more.

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Old 15 June 2005, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
How can selling something you legally own be imoral?
Boning your cousin is legal. Do you think that is right?

Pmsl @ Freak 'suck my ****'
Old 15 June 2005, 04:02 PM
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Boning your cousin is legal. Do you think that is right?
It depends if you are from Suffolk or not
Old 15 June 2005, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Geezer
Do you honestly believe that if the debt is cancelled the corrupt governments in the worst affected countries will spend it on food and shelter and infrastucture for their impoverished populations? Get real! They will use the extra money to line their own pockets, buy weapons and palaces and hammer the poor buggers Geldof is puportedly helping even more.

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And we'll end up paying for all this cancelled debt through increased taxes anyway.
Old 15 June 2005, 04:04 PM
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Apparently Ayrshire is bad for it too
Old 15 June 2005, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by eClaire
Boning your cousin is legal. Do you think that is right?

Pmsl @ Freak 'suck my ****'
You obviously haven't seen my cousin, I would
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You don't count, you're from Derbyshire
Old 15 June 2005, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by eClaire
You don't count, you're from Derbyshire
Actually I'm not, I just happen to live there are the moment
Old 15 June 2005, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Actually I'm not, I just happen to live there are the moment
Well you still count cos you chose to live there
Old 15 June 2005, 06:02 PM
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If Geldork really wanted to do something that would wipe out world (not just Africa's) debt (rather than shameless self promotion and ego massaging), he would start hassling the top 10 world's richest men. These few people, without seriously impacting their wealth, could wipe out the debt.

Removing poverty from Africa needs a bit more than just wiping out the debt. The whole infrastructure and culture needs to change. As soon as these poor African countries start benefiting from aid, the people will start having loads more (than they did before) kids, which then brings on a new round of poverty for that country. It's a vicious circle that needs to be broken. Throwing money (or removing debt) is not the answer, and Geldrone knows it. He just loves the sound of his own publicity.

Lastly, I might consider donating cash to haircut 8. Raising money to get the scruffy twanny a fecking haircut (and some shampoo & soap, maybe even a few Bic razors, if there's enough dosh raised).
Old 15 June 2005, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerome
As soon as these poor African countries start benefiting from aid, the people will start having loads more (than they did before) kids, which then brings on a new round of poverty for that country. It's a vicious circle that needs to be broken.
I don't agree, Jerome. The poorest people normally have more kids because of high mortality rates and they don't have the state to rely on to look after them. The wealthier people get the less children they tend to have.
Old 15 June 2005, 08:38 PM
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So, eclaire have you judged me yet?

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Old 15 June 2005, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by gsm1
I don't agree, Jerome. The poorest people normally have more kids because of high mortality rates and they don't have the state to rely on to look after them. The wealthier people get the less children they tend to have.
Maybe the poor don't have more kids, just more survive. The fact remains they do not modify their breeding practices once they are no longer poor and consequently the population cannot be sustained by it's own available resources (or those the leaders make available).
Old 15 June 2005, 09:02 PM
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After all is said and done there's one thing you've all overlooked




Pink Floyd are getting back together for the event

Who'd have thought
Old 15 June 2005, 10:51 PM
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Hell yeah! Right on.

May just go and watch it.

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Old 15 June 2005, 11:21 PM
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Do you want to buy some tickets?
Hehehehehe

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Old 16 June 2005, 07:51 AM
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No ****!

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Old 17 June 2005, 11:01 AM
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anyone know yet what the projected times are , ie gates open at x,
music starts at y, expected to be complete at z (and manages to leave the park at z+3 hours!!)
Old 17 June 2005, 11:52 AM
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Got my text today, been on the other phone for a while as I forgot I'd used it.

Now it's dilema time........ TO SELL for huge profit or to go......... hmmmmmm

This is made so much more difficult now I know Pink Floyd are doing there bit !!!!

I fear I may have to go against all my gut reactions and plans and actually attend !!!
Old 17 June 2005, 02:53 PM
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I WANT TICKETS!

One soul for sale if any tickets are up for grabs!
Old 17 June 2005, 10:30 PM
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My PM box is waiting...

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Old 17 June 2005, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Floyd
If you got the text message and now have tickets on the way but couldn't go now, what would you do?

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sell them and put the money to a charity in this country


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