Soulgirl

I was approached by two subaru enthusiasts in an Asda carpark a few days ago. They were aged around 10. They proceeded to tell me that everyone was saying that my subaru is a fake because I keep buying different parts for it LOL.

Apparently, one of their Dad's looked under my car when it was parked at their school and pronounced that it was in fact a Ford

Soulgirl

I've got an expression .....



LOL

StickyMicky

one bloke told me he had 320bhp from his "beast"

and then told me it had a td04

another bloke, who came screaming onto the site, compleatly unaware of the fact that mine was just around the corner as you come towards the carwash entrance, stopped, jumped out, had a looksy at mine, got back in his, came around and started having a chat
to be honest i was fully expecting this baseball cap, clad, bloke to give me all the waffle, and it turned out he knew exactly what he was on about

told him the spec of mine, and told him i was not sure on the power and he made a decent guestimate, which was decent

his car was a dog tho

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Ah just the type of person Micky was talking about.
If you acutally think that a uk car will be blown away by an early wrx, id sit back and think again
Even the older 208bhp UK cars had more than 208bhp, on the other hand, the jap import 240ps (237bhp) cars ran that on 100 ron, and to find many people who run these on 100 ron..... well...... drop 10bhp straight away, if not more as they probably know it all and run them on 95 ron (the chavs that is )
Also, STi dont give out their project cars, they, like many others probably end up in the Subaru museum.

Tony

Bubba po

WRXtra power acts like this all the time! Mikey's car is FAR from standard UK, on top of which he can actually drive it. And the issue of the driver tear-arsing off and almost causing an accident just to nurse his injured pride was neatly side-stepped -which is a shame because it shows that he didn't have the maturity to own such a car, whatever its provenance.

WRXtra power

Firstly,

That doesn't even make sense, stats are there for a reason and actually an eary WRX classic can be upto 260ps (255bhp). Even if it was run on a lower ron and lost 10BHP it would still be higher (@ 255BHP) not to mention the fact that a Jap Import is lighter due to aluminium body parts and quicker 0-60 due to the close ratio G/Box.

Secondly,


I never agreed that he owned the actual so called project car. Your comment is pointless!

And Bubba, it brings a tear to my eye to know that I have made such an impression on you. May there be many more memorable threads where we can share our comments together .

On a serious point though Bubba, I don't know Mikey or his car and was only going by what he had written at the start of this thread (what are the Prodrive stickers about then?). I was going by standard V's standard. How do we know the WRX/STI (whatever the **** it is) is standard. It could also be far from standard.

Also I don't agree with his type of driving either but judging by the way Mikey wrote his opening thread I wouldn't be surprised if that was exaggerated as well.

DaveD

iTrader: (2)

Maybe he was blinded by Mikey's white wheels?

I'm sure my car is faster
MY93 WRX

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Shows how much you know......
Early wrx's were 240ps for the saloon and 220ps for the wagons, the first STi's were back in 94, this means that they fall in the above category, all i have stated makes sense, its just that you dont have a clue, along with your aluminium parts (STi's not wrx's) and the gearbox for the wrx's were no shorter than that of a uk car, if anything, most parts are transferable between the 2 (excluding type RA's).

Tony

DaveD

iTrader: (2)

Er, glass houses etc....

WRXs do have ally bonnet, front w/bones, and many (possibly not all) have shorter gearing, and a larger clutch to handle all that extra power

However, if both were de-cat'ed then I expect the WRX would probably still win in the twisties due to it's stiffer suspension set up

willfal

uk saloons and wrx imports are more or less the same, both td05 both same gearing. only the wagons had shorter gearing and the smaller td04.

Will

Bubba po

I think the twisties are operating on my ball-bag, cos my pods are aching fit to burst.

Talk about going off-topic. Anyone who tries to make a single, generalising statement about Subaru models is going to have it rammed up his **** by some know-it-all.

The bloke acted like a ***. let's not lose sight of that, eh?

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

As above except upto and including 1996, the UK wagon came with a TD05, which was interesting
Alloy parts are STi only.
Clutches are the same size as he uk cars, standard fit Subaru clutch.
WRX's didnt have ABS as standard where as uk cars did (upto around 95/96) but are higher specced than a uk car (no a/c on uk car etc)
208bhp was only because the UK car was mapped to run 95 ron fuel, run 95 in a wrx and it wont last long (put super in a uk car and you get better performance )

Tony

WRXtra power

You may have your big grin on but you are wrong. Early = Pre-facelift and pre-facelift imports range from 240ps to 260ps. When they had their facelift its was then pushed to 280ps.
The gearbox is a closer ratio as the Jap cars are restricted to 112MPH so to make use of the wasted power that was available Subaru Japan built them with close ratio box's giving them quicker 0-60 times. And yes they did have aluminium body parts (bonnet etc) I have one, so I know.
As for the stats, take a look below. Thats How Much I Know!!!!!

http://www.ravensblade-impreza.com/t...ls/models.html

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Wagons were 220ps up to 1997, 92-94 (early) the saloons were 240ps, 95 and 96 they went up to 260ps, 97 onwards they were 280ps, happy?
These are the correct facts

Tony

Bubba po

Stand back everyone... I'll handle this.

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

LOL!! limited to 112 because of short ratios? yeah right
You know nothing!!
112mph is 180kmh, and by law, all cars built for the japanese domestic market had to be restricted to this limit, so they were, the gearboxes had the same ratio's as a uk car, ie 0-60 would be exactly the same gear at the same speed before you needed to change, 2 gears.
Alloy parts were not standard on wrx's.
Only the type RA and Type R had short ratio gearboxes, mainly because the type RA is race altered and you needed the high accelleration for rallying, as doing more than 130mph through a forest is a bit silly.

Tony

willfal

last time i spoke to the guys at andy forrest performance it was them that gave me the info on the gearing/turbos - reason being i was looking at buying a VOS chip, i was told uk and wrx saloons all had same gearing - bar the RA which being rally altered (ra) had closer ratio box. the wagon was closer gearing also but not the same as the RA version.

Will

Bubba po

Not enough yawns, obviously.

willfal

tony burns - your faster at typing than me obviously

Will

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Yup trained touch typist

Tony

WRXtra power

No you Goon.... Read it again slowly. They used a close ratio gearbox because they wanted to make more use of the cars power as due to the Law they couldn't exploit its speed, only it's acceleration counted. Thus giving 0-60 times of 4.8s. Go do your homework.

willfal

wrxtra power - not having a go at you, but you know your car, i know mine and the other man knows his, andy forrest performance knows their customers cars and those can vary between wagon sti/wrx/uk or saloon sti/wrx/uk and thats the info i believe, they know their stuff.... go check it with them....

Will

NotoriousREV

Early WRX's are definately shorter geared than UK cars, 5th gear in my old MY93 WRX was ~20mph/1000rpm, UK cars are nearer 25mph/1000rpm

EDIT: I think the 'box ratios are the same WRX vs UK but the diffs are lower on the JDM's, they're certainly not "close ratio" like the Type RA boxes are.

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Done my homework, a uk car had a quoted time of 5.5, yet were capable of sub 5 in 208bhp form, ill let you work out if the wrx had a close ratio gearbox as it seems you dont quite understand what a close ratio gearbox is

Tony

WRXtra power

Ok Tony, was a late night for me last night.

Close ratio, Short ratio, Long ratio, High ratio, Low ratio..... I am confused as to what is what now. Ok you win there but here are the figures. They are different, so what is the correct terminology?

JDM
Gearing 1=3.166 2=1.882 3=1.296 4=0.972 5=0.738 Final Drive = 4.444.

UK Turbo2000

Gearing 1=3.454 2=1.947 3=1.366 4=0.972 5=0.738 Final Drive = 3.9

dj219957

My 2p:


Jap wrx November 1992-October 1994 240 ps = 237 bhp
October 1994 upto release of face lift 260 ps = 256 bhp
UK cars 1993 - 1996 211 ps = 208 bhp
Jap cars did have slightly different gear ratios and final drive
Some WRX cars did come with ally panals and wishbones.

Andy