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Old 13 July 2005, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by DrunkenPikie
You may regard my credibility as zero but what I'm saying obviously has some resonance with the people that run this board as the topic was deleted. Good riddance, what we need is a "I'm starting to think we should look how we can make muslims feel more a part of this society" topic.
Not some BS about how "I'm starting to dislike muslims".
I applaud the sentiment

It's a shame that the majority have absolutely no interest in integrating into our society.
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Originally Posted by DrunkenPikie
You may regard my credibility as zero but what I'm saying obviously has some resonance with the people that run this board as the topic was deleted. Good riddance, what we need is a "I'm starting to think we should look how we can make muslims feel more a part of this society" topic.
Not some BS about how "I'm starting to dislike muslims".
Ok start that thread but to find the answers you need to solve the problems raised by the other thread..... if you can't see that then the discussion is pointless.
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Old 13 July 2005, 10:42 AM
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I think this is getting slightly out of hand because it was only a user or two who were actually using the term hate

I don't agree with either side of the argument but as far as I can make out it's not a racist thing because anyone can be a Muslim, Hawk wasn't saying "I hate Asians" was he.

Let's please sit back and think about this and read the replies carefully before rushing to reply and have an argument. Any arguments on here no matter what the nature are and will be stopped.
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Old 13 July 2005, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DrunkenPikie
Not some BS about how "I'm starting to dislike muslims".
Its not BS though is it? its the genuine thoughts of someone else....

Im not agreeing with his thoughts, but Im disagreeing with the fact that he cant air them, and also the fact that we wasnt able to have the chance to change his view.
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Old 13 July 2005, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Angry
Fair cop, but how is starting to dislike all muslims based on the actions of 4 Islamist terrorists (not Islamic) any better?
yopu obviously totally missed the majority of my points even the wording in the title

there's no point me debating this further on this "heavily moderated board"

I have however had seeds planted "thanks dave and sti" and will pursue answers to my questions and concerns elsewhere


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Old 13 July 2005, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by moses
bull**** u wont


trust me, i said once that why r the majority of the paedophiles all white once, i said it only so the people will feel what it likes to tarnish a muslim or muslims as a terrorist, i didnt say it out of hatred or inciting just to show them how it feels like

and hell broke loose

so dont tell me u would laugh about it
In the predominantly white west then Paedophiles are predominantly white. What a f*cking retarded statement. In Africa it's common to find mothers aged 10. Is it not paedophilia just because it's in Africa?
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Originally Posted by moses
bull**** u wont


trust me, i said once that why r the majority of the paedophiles all white once, i said it only so the people will feel what it likes to tarnish a muslim or muslims as a terrorist, i didnt say it out of hatred or inciting just to show them how it feels like

and hell broke loose

so dont tell me u would laugh about it
The majority of paedophiles and murderers are white in this country, because their are far more white people than none white, simple as that.

Please feel free to call me a honky and tell me I smell of milk (*), it worries me not

* this is what my muslim mates at school called me, I returned the joke but it was all done in jest and we got on fine, shame the rest of the world cant do that.
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Originally Posted by davegtt
STI, wasting your time mate. he'll insult you, have his say then get the thread deleted.... The subject heading was very strong and IMO was wrong... but is there anything wrong with 90% of the replies who were helping him to see it from the otherside? and he has admittedly said he has broadend his views since the relatively short thread went on, now we might have been able to change his view completlely if the thread had been allowed to run its course....
I know. To change anything you need to be able to discuss it and put across the reason why people should change. If that doesn't happen then the change doesn't happen. In fact the views held by that person may become more extreme........ Oppps! look we have just got to the point where we are turning into the people who carried out these attacks!
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Anyway, it's not the words "dislike" or "hate" that are the problem, it's their application to an ethnic group rather than a particular individual. That's a dangerous and racist attitude to have.
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jeeez louise i've just realised compared to some on here I have "minor" problems


trust good old scoobynet, I come on here in a god damm (can i say that) awful mood and leave full of the joys of spring
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As Paul said though, he said Muslims not asains... Muslim is not a race, its a religion....

so he was being religionist then
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Originally Posted by DrunkenPikie
we should look how we can make muslims feel more a part of this society" topic.
We could always offer them a driving licence per person and not per family.

That's not helping is it?
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
Anyway, it's not the words "dislike" or "hate" that are the problem, it's their application to an ethnic group rather than a particular individual. That's a dangerous and racist attitude to have.
Of course it is. It is a fact though that up and down this country over the past week though that these views are starting to grow in the population. sad but true.
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Originally Posted by Spoon
We could always offer them a driving licence per person and not per family.

That's not helping is it?
"spits coffee on keyboard "

careful

and davegtt finally someone got the point of my post , whether it be right(ish) or wrong
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Old 13 July 2005, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
I applaud the sentiment

It's a shame that the majority have absolutely no interest in integrating into our society.

im a scot and this is my country

integrate to what, u think living out of marriage , cheating on your mate with his woman, drinking beer and ******** and sleeping around is a CULTURE, is that the only integration u guys have

eat , work **** and sleep and **** around like a rabid dog and with no meaning to life

i dont believe integration or my country scotland or uk stands for that, if u call it integration

do white chavs integrate to white society, being on the dole not working, having kids by different woman and getting others to pay for your lifestyle

is that the integration

u want us to integrate to that, any muslim that does that, deserves to be
put to death
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no worries, Im was not offended by you post as it wasnt aimed at me, I can see how it could have been seen as offensive though (quite easily actually) but I dont think it gets our community anywhere by saying lets delete it and forget about this guy, its better to talk about it and try and put it right
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Guys we don't object to reasoned discussion here, but we have more than a few muslim users which may get offended.

Feel free to carry on in another thread but lets not make thoe comments too close to the bone please
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Originally Posted by moses

u want us to integrate to that, any muslim that does that, deserves to be
put to death
as I said earlier I know realise I have relatively minor problems compared to some
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Originally Posted by moses
im a scot and this is my country

integrate to what, u think living out of marriage , cheating on your mate with his woman, drinking beer and ******** and sleeping around is a CULTURE, is that the only integration u guys have

eat , work **** and sleep and **** around like a rabid dog and with no meaning to life

i dont believe integration or my country scotland or uk stands for that, if u call it integration

do white chavs integrate to white society, being on the dole not working, having kids by different woman and getting others to pay for your lifestyle

is that the integration

u want us to integrate to that, any muslim that does that, deserves to be
put to death
F*ck off then.

Oops
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Originally Posted by hawkthescoobslayer
as I said earlier I know realise I have relatively minor problems compared to some


see u quote me out of context again u evildoer , u r a scumbag

for those who missed the full text

i quote


im a scot and this is my country

integrate to what, u think living out of marriage , cheating on your mate with his woman, drinking beer and ******** and sleeping around is a CULTURE, is that the only integration u guys have

eat , work **** and sleep and **** around like a rabid dog and with no meaning to life

i dont believe integration or my country scotland or uk stands for that, if u call it integration

do white chavs integrate to white society, being on the dole not working, having kids by different woman and getting others to pay for your lifestyle

is that the integration

u want us to integrate to that, any muslim that does that, deserves to be
put to death
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Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
F*ck off then.

u **** off not me, im integrated fully and this is my country
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I don't think people should be put to death for those things Moses
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"People were going to have a reasoned debate"

Erm...
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See, last few pages have been reasoned disscussion again, now we get one idiot posting abuse and the thread will get locked. Lets cut it out guys and try to keep it civilised...
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Originally Posted by moses
u want us to integrate to that, any muslim that does that, deserves to be
put to death

In a fookin nutshell for you, ladies and gentlemen. From the horse's mouth.

What hope is there when this is the attitude? You tell me.
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Originally Posted by moses
see u quote me out of context again u evildoer , u r a scumbag

for those who missed the full text

i quote


im a scot and this is my country

integrate to what, u think living out of marriage , cheating on your mate with his woman, drinking beer and ******** and sleeping around is a CULTURE, is that the only integration u guys have

eat , work **** and sleep and **** around like a rabid dog and with no meaning to life

i dont believe integration or my country scotland or uk stands for that, if u call it integration

do white chavs integrate to white society, being on the dole not working, having kids by different woman and getting others to pay for your lifestyle

is that the integration

u want us to integrate to that, any muslim that does that, deserves to be
put to death

You've just gone and done exactly what you had a go at hawk for doing.

Two wrongs.....

and thus proves why the worlds problems will never be solved.
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
In a fookin nutshell for you, ladies and gentlemen. From the horse's mouth.

What hope is there when this is the attitude? You tell me.
There is none. If a non-fanatical such as moses believes that then what hope for the rest?
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Originally Posted by lightning101
I don't think people should be put to death for those things Moses

a muslim should if he believes that is integration

commiting adultery, ******** woman, and leaving kids with woman and not supporting them and leaving us to do the work, eat, **** and sleep and , this aint a culture or integration, mate i dont believe u really think that too bud
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Maybe hawk started the thread off a bi strong with the title - be it through passion or stupidity - we don't know (not necessarily saying you are stupid, dear ), but in life you accept that these things are said/done and listen to and give a reasoned arguement, but by no means does it warrant anyone to call him names in a VERY abusive manner (may i ask you what age you are?) and then reporting his thread a 'bad thread' when it has only been yourself to make it bad.

The issues raised are pefectly valid and need to be addressed; I suspect he is not the only person to feel this way, however, I suspect I am not the only person who wants to read an arguement presented with maturity. Otherwise we will get nowhere.

And people wonder why it is so difficult for the world to live in peace!
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Originally Posted by moses
a muslim should if he believes that is integration

commiting adultery, ******** woman, and leaving kids with woman and not supporting them and leaving us to do the work, eat, **** and sleep and , this aint a culture or integration, mate i dont believe u really think that too bud
It's a fine line between thinking a moslem* should be put to death for acting like that and thinking ANYONE should be put to death for acting like that.

You scare me sometimes.


*Unless you're saying a moslem is better than anyone else of course.
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