matty01

US political intervention in the East is well documented and widley accepted.


Unfortunatly our access to top secret intelligence of what is/has really gone on in the world and the complex political undercurrents and hidden agendas and future intentions of world leaders/countries is so severely restricted that speculation in many areas of international politics(including deeper terrorist motivations) is nearly pointless

AsifScoob

You understand these things very well, wish others on SN would do likewise.

Asif

matty01

Nobody 'out of the loop' so to speak knows what is really going on or why ,in the 'bigger picture'. The best we can do is botch up a dodgy jigsaw puzzle and guess at what gaps there might be in our picture of secret world politics and undercurrents etc etc,

moses

im so sorry to hear that bros, makes me fecking sick, u mind after 9/11 a poor innocent sikh guy only coz he wore a turban and had a bear got killed , its not the fault of any coloured guy, the fecking *******s just need an excuse and these extremists gave it to them

i hope we give the bigots back what they do to us
so sorry to hear that bros

moses

good news i luv henry

Suresh

Read your own posts chap. Anyone says something you disagree with, you launch into a tirade. Try respecting the opinions of others. Some people get a buzz out of flaming, I guess.

You dismissed my points becuse you didn't like them not because they aren't true. Maybe you agreed with me about the reasons for anger, but neglected to comment. I acknowledge that the war in Iraq has increased the chances of a terrorist attack, but is not the underlying cause. What is the reason that British citizens of Pakistani descent launched an attack becuase of Iraq? FFS they are not Iraqis and propbably didn't give a flying **** about the poeple there when Saddam was in power. Keep dodging the issue if you like though.

Suresh

Leslie

Billy Boy should have used a much longer spoon in his dealings with Bush!

Can't help feeling confused and suspicious about the latest London attacks.

Les

KiwiGTI

Maybe it was Allah's will that these bombs didn't go off? After all terrorists praised him when the twin towers fell, surely it's the same when no lives are lost.

CoobyS

It IS the underlying cause, along with all the other invasions and double-standards show to non-muslim middle-east counterparts.

What on earth do you think is the underlying cause? Are you so bigoted and narrow-minded to blame everything on religion? Perhaps you ought to read this thread: http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=443416 and smell the coffee.

Suresh

CoobyS you really are an arrogant twit.
The thesis from your self-publicised link seems to be that if you occupy territory, you can expected that the occupied peoples will fight back. This is not rocket science, is it?.

It does not explain why British muslims see fit to attack their own countrymen. Why do they feel better connected to others of a different nationality several thousand kms away than to their hosts. Can you see the connection, Gump?

Have a nice day.

Suresh

STi wanna Subaru

iTrader: (1)

Got an e-mail from my mate in london this morning who's Asain. He said

"got bus to work this morning with my rucksack on my back...... first time ever I've not had a problem getting seat!!!"



the good ol British sense of humour!

jasey

Man Shot by Police at Stockwell Station after "Incident"

CoobyS

Thanks for the compliment

It's not nationality that is connecting them, it is religion. But the particular religion is arbitrary, it could be hinduism, sikhism, christianity or whatever because none of the religions condone killing.

Simply thinking that because you are a national of one country and that you will support that country is fallacious. Most of my British Indian friends who are as 'English' as me decided to support India in the cricket matches against England - why don't they feel connected? Who would you support, your names suggests you are of Indian origin?

Dream Weaver

Make your mind up

I agree with Suresh. Even if everything can be blamed on our invasion of Iraq, then you could argue that Iraq would be well within their rights to come and attack us, after all we went in there first but its not them doing the attacking.

We are being attacked by English born men who are no more or less of a Brit than I am, and thats the difference.

Dream Weaver

And....one of my best mates is Indian and we've been mates for 20 years now. He would categroically support England in football, cricket, war whatever, he doesnt speak Hindhu, and has no interest whatsoever in the Indian faith or culture he's a pure Englander, probably even more than me

Its just a shame the ******** BNP idiots cant see that when we go out

gsm1

Suresh, you simply don't like it when someone disagrees with you.

Check out the leaked British intelligence report which identifies the Iraq war as a key cause of young Britons turning to terrorism.

It's all very well sitting there shaking your head saying, "they're not even Iraqis" but it's not going to stop extremist groups recruiting and people being blown up.

Suresh

That's correct and I am not advocating head-wobbling as a solution. Where did you get that idea?

Endless tolerence ending in capitulation isn't an option either, by the way although you seem to be advocating it.

CoobyS

I'm saying religion is the arbitrary common denominator; not the intrinsic advocate of the act of a suicide bomb. If you can understand this then you can understand why the Iraqis do not have to come here in person and blow themselves up on the Picadilly line. Remember also, this is not localised to Iraq, but the Middle East.

You will realise your logic is incorrect when the penny drops re arbitrary common denominator which supercedes the fallacious assumption of "no more or less of a Brit than I am".

Taff107

I thought this tosser would turn up sometime........

Taff107

.....*****....