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Old 22 July 2005, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
If that's your definition of "Britishness" we really are in a poor state.

lol
Old 22 July 2005, 04:11 PM
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You still trying to convince people you're not racist, moses?


Has anyone bought it yet?
Old 22 July 2005, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHH

Man, I was with you for a few posts there too.

Do you realise how racist that statement is moses?

You might not mean it with any bad intent at all but a lot of us are white and aren't bigots nor racists. We don't need to be your friend to prove that we're good people!

i dont mean that, i also said the other good white people or any races

i dont see u as a colour or anyone

i only see the racist bigots and ****'s and narrow minded folk as white

i hope u understand where am getting at

believing in a race makes u feel more important than another race, i believe being a human is more important than a colour
Old 22 July 2005, 04:12 PM
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There'd be none of these peoblems, and we wouldn't even be discussing this if we weren't so lacklustre with immigration polices. Too many third world loonies coming over here pising off everyone else and resulting in a general plumit in standards.
Old 22 July 2005, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by moses
well im a muslim scotsman then a british pakistani
Must be hell for you, wanting to wear a skirt but knowing fully well it is haraam for a man
Old 22 July 2005, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by moses
i dont mean that, i also said the other good white people or any races

i dont see u as a colour or anyone

i only see the racist bigots and ****'s and narrow minded folk as white

i hope u understand where am getting at

believing in a race makes u feel more important than another race, i believe being a human is more important than a colour
A Muslim extremist is far from open minded - and they're hardly white are they.
It's people like you that do ethnic minorities no favours whatsoever, you're bollox fuels hatred from people. I exclude myself, and many others from that however for many, this does apply.
Old 22 July 2005, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
You still trying to convince people you're not racist, moses?


Has anyone bought it yet?
Well, I don't believe he's a racist but, there are some on here that are
Old 22 July 2005, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by moses
i dont mean that, i also said the other good white people or any races

i dont see u as a colour or anyone

i only see the racist bigots and ****'s and narrow minded folk as white

i hope u understand where am getting at

believing in a race makes u feel more important than another race, i believe being a human is more important than a colour
What about the non-white bigots and narrow minded folk? I know what you are trying to say bud, but you're tripping over yourself a bit. Just say you hate *****, bigots and racists in whatever flavour they come and leave it at that!
Old 22 July 2005, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
You still trying to convince people you're not racist, moses?


Has anyone bought it yet?

telboy u **** aff u r one of those coward baiters

i dont need to proove to anyone if im racist or not

after the accusations last week against me the evil

i hope u loose your senses

go and **** off and tell someone who cares, from all the people here, u are the lowest of all parasites

others i can live with, but u are a rat a spineless ********

telboy is one of those guys who said to be

i bet u were glowing moses when london got bombed, it hurt me so much, i was so angry, do u know i curse only the israeli soldiers and settlers and the usa neocons, bush and his cronies and army

i dont curse no one and last week telboy was one guy i really cursed i hoped he would suffer for saying that evil stuff to me , accusing me of glowing when the london bombs went aff

i said i wasnt even glowing when the poor spanish got blown, and u are fecking saying im glowing when my fellow brits got blown up

and telboy u know what he says the scumbag, he said go and tell that to your " brits in leeds" he meant the terrorists

u fecking son of a 1000 ******* men , i bet u dont know who your father is
Old 22 July 2005, 04:17 PM
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^^^ See what i mean? Human dross. Lovely.
Old 22 July 2005, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
Moses I think you are wrong there. Modern British culture for many is to be a chav, a lout, to binge drink, fight, ****, take drugs etc, but to say the British have no culture is clearly wrong. Consider the following:

English is the world's language
Football and Rugby
Best TV in the world
Cricket
Ramblers
British seaside resorts
Best theatres and theatrical production.
The best music in the world
Birdspotters, trainspotters and hobbyists in general (Including this site)
The British legal system (what most modern fair legal systems are based on)
The Royals, Lords etc
Proud military history and tradition
Educational institutions
British comedy
Carboot sales and farmers markets
Freedom of expression
Village Fetes
5000+ years of civilisation combining pagans, Celts, Romans, Vikings, Normans, Jews, Muslims etc
etc etc

Just because we don't have loud, colourful religious festivals or rituals or that you aren't interested in the above doesn't mean there is no culture.

Politics

Well Cromwell can certainly stake a claim to having helped develope Democracy in the modern world (not what have now in the West, but actual Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives)

Industry

Pioneers of the industiral revolution

Art

Francis Bacon
JWW Turner
etc. etc.

Literature


Shakespeare
Dickens
etc. etc.

Music

Elger
Benjamin Britten
The Beatles
The Wurzels

Science

Newton
Darwin
Etc.

My country is ace. Absolutely love it. But......


we will never, ever learn, that when you invade somebody's country, stifle their culture, nick their oil, provide them with weapons one minute and bomb them the next, then provide their opponents with the same weapons and stand back counting the cash watching the mayhem unfold, when you do this we will, without fail, for the rest of time, have somebody wanting to hurt us.

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Old 22 July 2005, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by moses
i only see the racist bigots and ****'s and narrow minded folk as white
But there it is again!

I'm white moses. I'm really, really white. I'm not a ****, a racist or a bigot but I'm very white. I'm not narrow minded but I AM WHITE. I don't mind you seeing me as white. To me, being white isn't bad. You say "Oh, I'm not calling you white." as if being white is bad. It's not. It's not the same as a huge chunk of the world but it's no better and it's no worse. It's just different. It's about time we all got along despite our differences instead of trying to pretend that there aren't any.
Old 22 July 2005, 04:18 PM
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This thread is fast becoming pure comedy.
Old 22 July 2005, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
^^^ See what i mean? Human dross. Lovely.
Why ? For telling you he doesn't like you ?
Old 22 July 2005, 04:19 PM
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Expose moses for what he really is and he only knows one reaction - a stream of insults.

Anyone still giving his opinions credence?
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Did you really say you thought he would be glowing ?
Old 22 July 2005, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
What about the non-white bigots and narrow minded folk? I know what you are trying to say bud, but you're tripping over yourself a bit. Just say you hate *****, bigots and racists in whatever flavour they come and leave it at that!

bros bros the non white bigots i see them as pigs


i swear olly, me being a muslim i luv all colours of race my own brothers r white muslim and non muslim , u know my mate dougster the old mod here, u know he is a lover of national front and white supremacy, im so fecking tolerant to him, and we phone each other if our teams win or loose he is a rangers man and im a celtic man

coz i know he is not a real racist someone who thinks he is but he aint ****


otherwise he wont be my friend my problem is only with racists and i only used the word whitey against the people who bait muslims and call them terrorists or extremists as a whole

my attack is not against the good pale ******* just those narrow minded c;unts

unclebuck he says so many bad things sometimes about us, but deep inside ask any muslim here, they dont hate him, coz they know he can be a good guy at times

its only scumbags i hate like telboy and a few others

leslie a guy i adore and my hero here, i dont see him as white i see him as a brother, ted maul my bros is a jew, i dont see him as a jew i see him as a brother

and yourself ollyk i dont consider u white but a brother and a friend and we havent even met

and i luv bravo2zero even if we argue at times, i dont see him as white either but a friend
Old 22 July 2005, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBigMan
There'd be none of these peoblems, and we wouldn't even be discussing this if we weren't so lacklustre with immigration polices. Too many third world loonies coming over here pising off everyone else and resulting in a general plumit in standards.
We invaded Ireland once. Got bombed to smithereens by the offspring of those we pissed off for years after. Nothing to do with immigration old chap.
Old 22 July 2005, 04:22 PM
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Let's be clear. The only people who thought the bombings were a good thing for Western society were NOT the four suicide terrorists blown up...
Old 22 July 2005, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by wez_sti
Cant believe some people almost seem to be excusing these actions. we havent invaded Iraq with the intention of taking it over and making it part of the commonwealth, we went in to remove a dictator that was killing his own people in their thousands. if we'd of killed him and just left them to it there would be anarchy, much worse than there is now.
The utter head-in-the-sand naivety of people on this BBS never ceases to amaze me ; I would imagine that people who knew how to use a computer would perhaps know better than to swallow everything that George W Bush jizzes down their throats. The invasion of Iraq was not a benevolent mission to bring freedom to the Iraqi people ; the US and UK governments could not give two sh*ts if everyone in Iraq was murdered in one fell swoop. A fact demonstrated by their complete lack of animosity toward the Iraq administration until the first Gulf War. The only reason that Iraq has had its government replaced by one chosen by the US is so that the country's natural resources can be exploited without hindrance.

Originally Posted by wez_sti
Do you also think Mugabie (sp) should just be left to it?? personally i'd like the f*cker executed. but again we'd need a military presence there for a while after to try and restore order.
Mugabie is being left to it ! But his country has nothing worth plundering so it is not economically viable to send troops there !
Old 22 July 2005, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RedFive
Did you really say you thought he would be glowing ?

red he accused me of that and also said go and tell it to your brits in leeds

it hurt so much, u fecking ******* telboy, im a patriot of my country scotland still uphold the uk in my heart even if i dont like the union jack coz of rangers football club

and when i hear **** like above, i wonder no wonder, some muslims dont feel english and r ready to kill their fellow brits in this country

when u get told your a foreigner all the time and u got nothing to do with this country, u grow up with so much hatred u wanna punish the people its a pity its the innocents who suffer

its sad red, when i get told to go back to my country, wtf my country is scotland only coz i stand up for what i believe in and justice

then is the time i know how other muslim children who gone to the extreme feel, their is no sense of belonging and only brothers they get r the extremists who brainwash them and give them a sense of family and belonging to someone coz their own countrymen kept on reminding them , their lil pakis and muslim terrorists etc
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Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
But there it is again!

I'm white moses. I'm really, really white. I'm not a ****, a racist or a bigot but I'm very white. I'm not narrow minded but I AM WHITE. I don't mind you seeing me as white. To me, being white isn't bad. You say "Oh, I'm not calling you white." as if being white is bad. It's not. It's not the same as a huge chunk of the world but it's no better and it's no worse. It's just different. It's about time we all got along despite our differences instead of trying to pretend that there aren't any.

mate if someone saw me as brown or bronze i would be angry, i want someon to see my as a human not a race
Old 22 July 2005, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RedFive
Must be hell for you, wanting to wear a skirt but knowing fully well it is haraam for a man
lol i dont wear a skirt mate haha not allowed
Old 22 July 2005, 04:28 PM
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Moses. YOU'RE the one who said Muslims should be put to death before integrating into a Western culture. Get fookin real will you??
Old 22 July 2005, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
You still trying to convince people you're not racist, moses?


Has anyone bought it yet?
Tel,

In all honesty, if we look deeply enough inside ourselves, 99% of us exhibit some form of racist tendancy.

Moses is as "racist" as I am, and as most Scots are - as most people are, if only they will be honest with themselves.

That doesn't mean we cannot mix, cannot have close friends of differing ethnic backgrounds.

But its a basic human tendancy to be anything from "wary" to down right "hostile" to people from different cultures and with differing ideals.

The fact that they will usually be of different skin tone is really just an aside.
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Originally Posted by TheBigMan
A Muslim extremist is far from open minded - and they're hardly white are they.
It's people like you that do ethnic minorities no favours whatsoever, you're bollox fuels hatred from people. I exclude myself, and many others from that however for many, this does apply.

what has moses got to do with ethnic people, did hitler represent all whites

my **** he did so moses only represents his own views


trust me if i was an extremist i wouldnt be hear shouting and balling, its the quiet ones u have to watch not the ones who bring attention to themselves by swearing and defending themselves and their people
Old 22 July 2005, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MJW
The utter head-in-the-sand naivety of people on this BBS never ceases to amaze me ; I would imagine that people who knew how to use a computer would perhaps know better than to swallow everything that George W Bush jizzes down their throats. The invasion of Iraq was not a benevolent mission to bring freedom to the Iraqi people ; the US and UK governments could not give two sh*ts if everyone in Iraq was murdered in one fell swoop. A fact demonstrated by their complete lack of animosity toward the Iraq administration until the first Gulf War. The only reason that Iraq has had its government replaced by one chosen by the US is so that the country's natural resources can be exploited without hindrance.



Mugabie is being left to it ! But his country has nothing worth plundering so it is not economically viable to send troops there !
Spot-on.

At last an intelligent interlude, having listened to Moses bang on and on, and then finally colapse into a fit of insults. Reminds of Cartmen when he gets upset.

You're a bright lad Moses, I think you're studied and passionate. But you really need to get your temper under control for fear of discrediting yourself.

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Originally Posted by Scooby-doo97
Well, I don't believe he's a racist but, there are some on here that are


thanks scooby i luv u xxxxxx
Old 22 July 2005, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by moses
mate if someone saw me as brown or bronze i would be angry, i want someon to see my as a human not a race
Then I accept that you don't consider what you're saying to be offensive. Trust me though it really is. Any sort of generalising about a race is offensive.

Anyway, I've read on here plenty of posts where you're bigging up your bronze skin, saying the ladies love it blah, blah, blah, so I think you're a bit confused about whether you're proud to be different to a white guy or not.
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Christ moses, you're a sectarian bigot as well


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