SUSPECTED BOMBER SHOT ...SKY CITING POLICE SOURCES
22 July 2005, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo
Sky reporting the same thing.
That doesn't make him innocent though.
That doesn't make him innocent though.
Shot man NOT connected to bombings
22 July 2005, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo
Why?
the news reports say uniformed and plain clothes cops.
Bombs have gone off. The city is on high alert.
You run, you get shot. Pretty straightforward really.
the news reports say uniformed and plain clothes cops.
Bombs have gone off. The city is on high alert.
You run, you get shot. Pretty straightforward really.
Stoopid git must have been very very VERY thick if he knew that he was being challenged by the feds and still chose to run.
My take is that he was probably a peripheral member of a group with intent to cause disruption in some way.
He gambled that he wouldn't get shot cos he wasn't ACTUALLY carrying any explosives, just thought he'd tie up resources by getting a few feds to chase him, but they wouldn't shoot him, oh no sir!!
/Bob Monkhouse Klaxon On
Ehhh huuurrgggh
/Bob Monkhouse Klaxon Off
Wrong !!!!
Won't make that mistake again Sonny Jim
22 July 2005, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
The original post I responded to was:
If you're not connected then you're innocent, hence asking for the clicky and the statment that killing an innocent man would have some pretty serious repercussions.
If you're not connected then you're innocent, hence asking for the clicky and the statment that killing an innocent man would have some pretty serious repercussions.
My reading is that he's not connected in so far as he's not one of the 4.
Doesn't make him innocent.
22 July 2005, 05:53 PM
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So again, like yesterday, we were fed breadcrumbs and still don't have a clue as to what really happened.
Police also states that, as with any incident which involves shooting, there will be a full investigation, and no details will be disclosed until that investigation is well over.
So we can speculate whether he just had a walkman in his hands or not until we are blue in the face.
Police also states that, as with any incident which involves shooting, there will be a full investigation, and no details will be disclosed until that investigation is well over.
So we can speculate whether he just had a walkman in his hands or not until we are blue in the face.
22 July 2005, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by moses
but mate how can the voice of moses be the voice of muslims, i dont think anyone thinks the voice and act of the chavs represent the white community it will be fecked up if we thought that anyway
im totally different to asif and other muslims here, their nice and humble people and levelheaded, im nice and humble too but not levelheaded
im all passion baby they call me the passion fruit
im totally different to asif and other muslims here, their nice and humble people and levelheaded, im nice and humble too but not levelheaded
im all passion baby they call me the passion fruit
And thanks for the compliment.
One word of advice, if I may, just chill on use of the word Whitey, unless I bothered to read your explanation of it, I would think exactly what some of the other guys are thinking.
As someone else said, just stick to calling bigots bigots etc. I know you like to use the same means to respond to people that they are using on you, thats fine and understandable.
If you find something offensive, just use the RTM button and try to stay calm, just a suggestion.
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22 July 2005, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooby-doo97
We DEFINITELY know you're a racist after the thread you started a couple of nights ago. Get a life 
Asif
22 July 2005, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AsifScoob
Oh so it was him was it? Not too much of a surprise really.
Asif
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22 July 2005, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AsifScoob
LOL at Passion Fruit!
And thanks for the compliment.
One word of advice, if I may, just chill on use of the word Whitey, unless I bothered to read your explanation of it, I would think exactly what some of the other guys are thinking.
As someone else said, just stick to calling bigots bigots etc. I know you like to use the same means to respond to people that they are using on you, thats fine and understandable.
If you find something offensive, just use the RTM button and try to stay calm, just a suggestion.
Asif
And thanks for the compliment.
One word of advice, if I may, just chill on use of the word Whitey, unless I bothered to read your explanation of it, I would think exactly what some of the other guys are thinking.
As someone else said, just stick to calling bigots bigots etc. I know you like to use the same means to respond to people that they are using on you, thats fine and understandable.
If you find something offensive, just use the RTM button and try to stay calm, just a suggestion.
Asif
your welcome bros and thanks for the advice bros if i call them bigots they wont know how it feels like to be called a muslim terrorist or all muslims r troublemakers or terrorists, pakis this or that, so if i give them their own medicine they should be able to stomach it like we do, but they cant, their weak
not as strong as us.and go blind to what they say and get offended by what we say and like i said bros whitey is not the white race its something else
and im gonna lay low for a few days so u guys keep on talking and have nice discussions
cheers
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22 July 2005, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by moses
and go blind to what they say and get offended by what we say and like i said bros whitey is not the white race its something else
22 July 2005, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
During the second world, after Germany had occupied France, were the "resistence" terrorists? No, they were the resistance. I am white, British, liberal, male who would stand and fight for this country if called upon. I just think we need to remember that when you start invading coutries, they're inclined to fight back.
Picture this: President Khatami of Iran occupies GB. British lads get pissed off, contact ex-pats in Iran, Iran gets bombed a bit, makes Khatami rethink their occupation of our land, bombers are heroes.
Seriously, what the **** did you expect?
Picture this: President Khatami of Iran occupies GB. British lads get pissed off, contact ex-pats in Iran, Iran gets bombed a bit, makes Khatami rethink their occupation of our land, bombers are heroes.
Seriously, what the **** did you expect?
The difference is, as I've been keen to point out, that during WWII the democratic majority were opposed to what Hitler was doing. The world in general thought it was a bad thing and they fought back to maintain the will of the majority of people in the world. History would appear to support this position. The terrorists, however, who are attacking London might number a few hundred, or a few thousand, but they are exerting infulence far beyond their numbers just because this is the purpose of terrorism and they have played the game very well. So, this situation is very different from special forces or resistance acting on behalf of the majority of the world population, here we have representitives of a very few trying to force their will upon the majority and trying to make themselves appear more important than they actually are.
The situation where Iran invades GB is an interesting one but, again, I would imagine that the democratic majority on earth would oppose that and would be willing to engage in a struggle to reinstate the status quo for the benefit of all.
It must also come down to motivation, and this is a much, much more complex area, in the sense that many terrorist organisations are, in effect, criminal organisations seeking income and control. In theory a country acting for the good of a population does not seek benefit from its actions but carries out those actions to assist a population in trouble and to restore "world order." The UK might argue that this is the case in Iraq for example, the war was costly with little potential for a return. This is very different from those controlling terrorist acts though it must be said that the people actually carrying out the acts may indeed believe themselves to be "freedom fighters" acting for their cause.
22 July 2005, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by moses
will do how about milkybar kids
Anyway, **** off to your posh country club
22 July 2005, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RedFive
Did you know that in The Netherlands, Muslims who are too "kind" to the natives are called "Bounty's" ? Colored on the outside, but all white within. A new name for Uncle Tom's
Anyway, **** off to your posh country club
Anyway, **** off to your posh country club
lol so true in the uk mate we call them coconuts
brown from the outside and white in the inside lol what posh country club
all people like u and me mateits a club on the site and every few weeks i go for training
i luv falconry
22 July 2005, 07:09 PM
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jye my bros haha where the **** did u vanish , hows things in rainy ayrshire, nice to see u about bros, has been a long time u have a blessed weekend
u have a blessed weekend
22 July 2005, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jye
Cheers m8, u2. I've been here and there, and sunny Ayrshire is doin just fine, heh
Still waiting for that dinner invite btw
Still waiting for that dinner invite btw
bros i was busy in between doing up the house and trying to get this new shop, house was a mess bros
let me get this new shop sorted i promise u are welcome anytime
22 July 2005, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by hedgehog
Oops, I missed this one.
The difference is, as I've been keen to point out, that during WWII the democratic majority were opposed to what Hitler was doing. The world in general thought it was a bad thing and they fought back to maintain the will of the majority of people in the world. History would appear to support this position. The terrorists, however, who are attacking London might number a few hundred, or a few thousand, but they are exerting infulence far beyond their numbers just because this is the purpose of terrorism and they have played the game very well. So, this situation is very different from special forces or resistance acting on behalf of the majority of the world population, here we have representitives of a very few trying to force their will upon the majority and trying to make themselves appear more important than they actually are.
The situation where Iran invades GB is an interesting one but, again, I would imagine that the democratic majority on earth would oppose that and would be willing to engage in a struggle to reinstate the status quo for the benefit of all.
It must also come down to motivation, and this is a much, much more complex area, in the sense that many terrorist organisations are, in effect, criminal organisations seeking income and control. In theory a country acting for the good of a population does not seek benefit from its actions but carries out those actions to assist a population in trouble and to restore "world order." The UK might argue that this is the case in Iraq for example, the war was costly with little potential for a return. This is very different from those controlling terrorist acts though it must be said that the people actually carrying out the acts may indeed believe themselves to be "freedom fighters" acting for their cause.
The difference is, as I've been keen to point out, that during WWII the democratic majority were opposed to what Hitler was doing. The world in general thought it was a bad thing and they fought back to maintain the will of the majority of people in the world. History would appear to support this position. The terrorists, however, who are attacking London might number a few hundred, or a few thousand, but they are exerting infulence far beyond their numbers just because this is the purpose of terrorism and they have played the game very well. So, this situation is very different from special forces or resistance acting on behalf of the majority of the world population, here we have representitives of a very few trying to force their will upon the majority and trying to make themselves appear more important than they actually are.
The situation where Iran invades GB is an interesting one but, again, I would imagine that the democratic majority on earth would oppose that and would be willing to engage in a struggle to reinstate the status quo for the benefit of all.
It must also come down to motivation, and this is a much, much more complex area, in the sense that many terrorist organisations are, in effect, criminal organisations seeking income and control. In theory a country acting for the good of a population does not seek benefit from its actions but carries out those actions to assist a population in trouble and to restore "world order." The UK might argue that this is the case in Iraq for example, the war was costly with little potential for a return. This is very different from those controlling terrorist acts though it must be said that the people actually carrying out the acts may indeed believe themselves to be "freedom fighters" acting for their cause.
22 July 2005, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ChristianR
I bet if the guy was wearing one of these, he might not have been shot!
lol thats a nice one
bombers will still use it coz people will think they aint carrying a bomb
22 July 2005, 07:48 PM
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The other angle to take on this is that if some country invaded the UK I would be targetting their military personnel, not innocent civilains in their home country. To me this is a fundamental difference between what some would refer to as freedom fighter compared to terrorists. I think if you go back to WWII you will find the French resistance were targetting the military, not going into Germany and blowing up civilians. (I may be wrong on this as i'm no Historian but don't think I am)
22 July 2005, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
The other angle to take on this is that if some country invaded the UK I would be targetting their military personnel, not innocent civilains in their home country. To me this is a fundamental difference between what some would refer to as freedom fighter compared to terrorists. I think if you go back to WWII you will find the French resistance were targetting the military, not going into Germany and blowing up civilians. (I may be wrong on this as i'm no Historian but don't think I am)
dear bravo tell that to oor government they wanted osama and saddam dead
and they blow up the water resources and power stations in iraq and slaughter civilians
22 July 2005, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
But don't for one minute think that anti-west sentiments are limited to a handful of extremists.
However - BOMBING public plces, injuring/killing innocent people IS ENTIREY the work of extremists. The actions define those responsible as extreme.
22 July 2005, 10:10 PM
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anyone watch sky news at 9 pm i missed 15 mins of it while coming home from work
they r sure trying to win the ratings war, all about business hey
they had a programme inside islam and called alot of muslims and a few journalists and muslim leaders plus the labour mp khalid mahmood got a right slagging and they ripped him apart, see he has his head stuck up blairs *** it was nice to see him getting it
they r sure trying to win the ratings war, all about business hey
they had a programme inside islam and called alot of muslims and a few journalists and muslim leaders plus the labour mp khalid mahmood got a right slagging and they ripped him apart, see he has his head stuck up blairs *** it was nice to see him getting it