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22 July 2005, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
During the second world, after Germany had occupied France, were the "resistence" terrorists? No, they were the resistance. I am white, British, liberal, male who would stand and fight for this country if called upon. I just think we need to remember that when you start invading coutries, they're inclined to fight back.
Picture this: President Khatami of Iran occupies GB. British lads get pissed off, contact ex-pats in Iran, Iran gets bombed a bit, makes Khatami rethink their occupation of our land, bombers are heroes.
Seriously, what the **** did you expect?
Picture this: President Khatami of Iran occupies GB. British lads get pissed off, contact ex-pats in Iran, Iran gets bombed a bit, makes Khatami rethink their occupation of our land, bombers are heroes.
Seriously, what the **** did you expect?
Your comments remind me of a phrase from a certain film "Everything is true from a certain point of view"
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Originally Posted by Flatcapdriver
This is getting ridiculous. Yesterday I had to pick my wife up from North London to get her home and now this. Do they not realise that they are going to end up pissing off the entire population which will have the opposite effect to the one they are trying to achieve?
yep thats all they want, they want it to be a war and everyone wipes each other out
if it was the suicide bomber who got shot today, well he got his just desserts
22 July 2005, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Julz1983
Afghanistan was straight after 9/11, I only remember that as my husband was out in Oman on tour at the time and I thought he would be sent to Afghanistan with it being so close, and Iraq was long after 9/11.
22 July 2005, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by hawkthescoobslayer
by saying this sh{t I mean chuffing people blowing themselves up, not just in this country but al over the world all in the name of religion
RELIGION RELIGION don't get me started on fecking RELIGION
RELIGION RELIGION don't get me started on fecking RELIGION
22 July 2005, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by moses
yep thats all they want, they want it to be a war and everyone wipes each other out
if it was the suicide bomber who got shot today, well he got his just desserts
if it was the suicide bomber who got shot today, well he got his just desserts
"i agree with you moses"
22 July 2005, 12:44 PM
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apparantly the persons involved turned to the other passengers and said
"and that,s what happenes if you dont have a ticket"
the ensuing rush caused movement on the rhicter scale... LOL
seriously,,, if they felt justified and used lethal force,,, fair enough...
if he is a sb then he got what he deserved
M
"and that,s what happenes if you dont have a ticket"
the ensuing rush caused movement on the rhicter scale... LOL
seriously,,, if they felt justified and used lethal force,,, fair enough...
if he is a sb then he got what he deserved
M
22 July 2005, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by hawkthescoobslayer
even I probably the one of the most un-pc people on this board realise you are completely and utterly wrong. This sh{t started BEFORE we "invaded" them.
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22 July 2005, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Angry
Yes, this "sh{t" started when the England and the US carved up the Middle East after WW2, having promised some countries one thing and done another.
22 July 2005, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
I thought Iraq was invaded AFTER 9/11? (forgetting the orginal gulf war)
Afganistan was invaded straight after not Iraq
Afganistan was invaded straight after not Iraq
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/
Might help explain Muslim communities beef. Not entirely, but may give people a starting point.
For the record, I ******* hate suicide bombers. I also hate -
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in537928.shtml
22 July 2005, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by lightning101
You do realise that you are inciting racial hatred by that remark, Asian or not 
22 July 2005, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Personally I think hes trying to get others to come out with the racist remarks...
22 July 2005, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Personally I think hes trying to get others to come out with the racist remarks...
Yes. And the majority of people here are not racist. A terrorist about to possibly detonate a bomb should be dealt with in the way the Police did today. Irrespective of colour, religion or any other differentiator.
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22 July 2005, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
Oh I see they shouldn't have shot him on the basis he was Asian and it would be deemed racist? FFS what sort of mind altering drugs are you on or is that such a huge chip on your shoulder you think everyone is out to get Asians?
in the current climate, asian people running AWAY from armed police with either (a) baggy jackets on or (b) rucksacks are going to be fair game.
sorry to say this but I get the feeling that "open season" is about to start. I hope i'm not right but..............
22 July 2005, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by hawkthescoobslayer
by saying this sh{t I mean chuffing people blowing themselves up, not just in this country but al over the world all in the name of religion
RELIGION RELIGION don't get me started on fecking RELIGION
RELIGION RELIGION don't get me started on fecking RELIGION
Again I think it is important to remember that this is part of a very long game that has been played out for many years now and the people involved are clever enough to know how to use their "volunteers" for maximum effect. There is no question that religion, and invasions, help to motivate the volunteers and play into the hands of the man at the top but the truthful answer to almost all the hard questions about why the man in control acts the way he does will come down to money, control, power and money.
22 July 2005, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
Oh I see they shouldn't have shot him on the basis he was Asian and it would be deemed racist? FFS what sort of mind altering drugs are you on or is that such a huge chip on your shoulder you think everyone is out to get Asians?
You probably think i hate you Bravo......but not true I actually think you are a decent bloke with a open mind.
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i personally dont carry my rucksack anymore to work
no point in alarming people, with cat5 cable ends sticking out the flaps!!!
its about being sensible, and law abiding.
Khany, get some vinegar for that chip of yours.
everyone who runs from the police should be shot now!!!!
- just in case.
well done coppers.
BB
no point in alarming people, with cat5 cable ends sticking out the flaps!!!
its about being sensible, and law abiding.
Khany, get some vinegar for that chip of yours.
everyone who runs from the police should be shot now!!!!
- just in case.
well done coppers.
BB
22 July 2005, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by hawkthescoobslayer
my point therefore still stands doesn't it
I wasn't saying your point isnt valid, merely re-stating something which people seem to forget far too often.
22 July 2005, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
During the second world, after Germany had occupied France, were the "resistence" terrorists? No, they were the resistance. I am white, British, liberal, male who would stand and fight for this country if called upon. I just think we need to remember that when you start invading coutries, they're inclined to fight back.
Picture this: President Khatami of Iran occupies GB. British lads get pissed off, contact ex-pats in Iran, Iran gets bombed a bit, makes Khatami rethink their occupation of our land, bombers are heroes.
Seriously, what the **** did you expect?
Picture this: President Khatami of Iran occupies GB. British lads get pissed off, contact ex-pats in Iran, Iran gets bombed a bit, makes Khatami rethink their occupation of our land, bombers are heroes.
Seriously, what the **** did you expect?
And I bet if there was a huge white population living in Iraq they wouldnt be allowed to build churches and where trunks/bikini's. Christ, even white aid workers get their heads chopped off over there.
Sorry, but your analogy is pure rubbish.
22 July 2005, 01:01 PM
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Well in that case we both regularly mis understand each others posts then. The problem with you saying sarcastically that we should shoot all Asians just to make sure is intimating that we as a society are associating all Asians with whats been happening.
The facts is we arn't (although there will be a small minority in the UK that are too thick to realise this and think it is all Asians) but when the suicide bombers of two weeks ago were of Asian decent and the bombers seen yesterday were of Asian decent then an Asian man who has been shouted at by the police to stop and doesn't and runs for a Tube train is going to arouse severe suspicion to the point where it is safer to shoot him than risk the lives of all those around him. People don't run from the police if they have nothing to hide, and if they do then they are incredibly stupid and naive to not know what they are risking hapenning to them.
The facts is we arn't (although there will be a small minority in the UK that are too thick to realise this and think it is all Asians) but when the suicide bombers of two weeks ago were of Asian decent and the bombers seen yesterday were of Asian decent then an Asian man who has been shouted at by the police to stop and doesn't and runs for a Tube train is going to arouse severe suspicion to the point where it is safer to shoot him than risk the lives of all those around him. People don't run from the police if they have nothing to hide, and if they do then they are incredibly stupid and naive to not know what they are risking hapenning to them.
22 July 2005, 01:03 PM
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Did Jtaylor say that dreamweaver? Or are you being obtuse?
No, he said what if the UK was invaded by Iran, would the indiginous population captilulate? **** off they would, they'd fight, I know I would
No, he said what if the UK was invaded by Iran, would the indiginous population captilulate? **** off they would, they'd fight, I know I would
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22 July 2005, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by hedgehog
While religion might be a motivating factor in terms of getting people to carry out specific acts and even in terms of building up hatred on both sides (remember it suits the terrorist that you hate them, if you ignore them then they have failed to generate terror) the people controlling this are not doing this for religion. They may be religious people and they may be using religion as a weapon because it immediately gives the impression that one group of people are on your side and one group are the enemy but in truth this will almost certainly be about control and infulence. As more Muslims get sucked in to believe the "religious" angle so there is no question that more will get involved, increasing the perception that it is about religion, but the truth is that religion in this context is just being used as a divisive political tool.
Again I think it is important to remember that this is part of a very long game that has been played out for many years now and the people involved are clever enough to know how to use their "volunteers" for maximum effect. There is no question that religion, and invasions, help to motivate the volunteers and play into the hands of the man at the top but the truthful answer to almost all the hard questions about why the man in control acts the way he does will come down to money, control, power and money.
Again I think it is important to remember that this is part of a very long game that has been played out for many years now and the people involved are clever enough to know how to use their "volunteers" for maximum effect. There is no question that religion, and invasions, help to motivate the volunteers and play into the hands of the man at the top but the truthful answer to almost all the hard questions about why the man in control acts the way he does will come down to money, control, power and money.
22 July 2005, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Weaver
Didnt realise Iraq/Iran etc had such a huge population of white English people?
And I bet if there was a huge white population living in Iraq they wouldnt be allowed to build churches and where trunks/bikini's. Christ, even white aid workers get their heads chopped off over there.
Sorry, but your analogy is pure rubbish.
And I bet if there was a huge white population living in Iraq they wouldnt be allowed to build churches and where trunks/bikini's. Christ, even white aid workers get their heads chopped off over there.
Sorry, but your analogy is pure rubbish.
Emotions and the ability to think rationally really don't mix do they?
22 July 2005, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GC8
Has anyone considered that 'Khany' (a rather obvious name...) may actually be ScoobyNet's favourite troll Nacro/DrWho/Drunken Pikie?
Off topic point: This so called muslim council of Britain is a farce......they have no control over the young muslims.....they are self elected morons. Grow a beard and speak poor english and you can get on there. Hope the British public are not putting all their hopes on them to help sort out these british fundamentalists.
22 July 2005, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Angry
Did Jtaylor say that dreamweaver? Or are you being obtuse?
No, he said what if the UK was invaded by Iran, would the indiginous male population captilulate? **** off they would, they'd fight, I know I would
No, he said what if the UK was invaded by Iran, would the indiginous male population captilulate? **** off they would, they'd fight, I know I would
Besides which thats not how it came across to me. JTaylor was saying that if Iran invaded the UK, all the British lads would ring up there ex-pat mates in Iran and get them to blow places up over there.
As we know they have low tolerance of white immigrants in these countries it is purely hypothetical.
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22 July 2005, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Weaver
My point was...
I dont see that having a more multicultural society than Iran would preclude the populous from standing up and fighting against an invading agressor.