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Old 06 August 2005, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaquil
Look whether racist or not taking a life is taking a life. The Killing of a white person deserves as much media attention as the killing of a Black ane even though we know that Black teenager killing was racially motivated...the other one could have been as well. Either way the results are awful people have lost loved ones...lives have been destroyed.

Aaquil.
bros blacks killing blacks and whites killing whites etc etc is common in britain and dont get the front page coz its common

if a white lad was killed by a coloured fella it would be on the front pages as did the black guys killing etc etc

2 different things
its like the muslim boys who bombed on the 7/7 everyone is talking about it and muslims r being lynched but a white guy( nail bomber) done something similiar and no one wanted to ban the nf and do something about his british national party and c18 links did they no, they were free to practice what they do

its hypocrisy
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Moses, stop talking facking crap. No-one is free to practise terrorism in this country, black, asian or white. Plenty of people want to ban the NF and do something about the BNP. No muslims have been lynched in this country, to my knowledge. We can't deport our own British citizens but we can deport foreigners that preach hate on our soil. Try and understand that, for all our sakes. You need to sort your head out between your fantasy idea of what this country is like and the reality.
Old 06 August 2005, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
but we can deport foreigners that preach hate on our soil
That's right, we can. The trouble is that we don't.

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Old 06 August 2005, 04:32 PM
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Blair's proposing it though, inee?
Old 06 August 2005, 04:34 PM
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He is.He said yesterday that the game is changing.
What was he doing untill now? Sleeping I think!
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
Moses, stop talking facking crap. No-one is free to practise terrorism in this country, black, asian or white. Plenty of people want to ban the NF and do something about the BNP. No muslims have been lynched in this country, to my knowledge. We can't deport our own British citizens but we can deport foreigners that preach hate on our soil. Try and understand that, for all our sakes. You need to sort your head out between your fantasy idea of what this country is like and the reality.

im not talking crap maybe u aint read the papers lately muslims attacked on streets, their homes firebombed and mosques too and also coz sikhs wear turbans they get attacked too and other brown looking men

is that not lynching what is, wake up and smell the coffee and keep this thread civil

and no one has dared banning the bnp, nf and c18 if the nail bomber wasnt caught at that time dont know how many other slaughters he could have commited

im all for deporting non national hate preachers or maybe u aint been reading those threads too, i believe the same punishment even to our nationals in the uk including whites, blacks and muslims should be the same not just highlight one community and do it to them alone
Old 06 August 2005, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Being stuck in your nice little office pushing papers around does not give you an insight into what goes on in the inner cities in the UK.

Only when you work all over the UK in the major cities will you actually get a feel for and see what goes on.

Yes you may be a solicitor in your cosy little world, but I can assure you its quiet frightening being out there sometimes and seeing what goes on.

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I think not matey. If you actually knew what I did for a living you would realise that I spend an awful lot of time with clients, at their homes, at the scenes of crime(after the event I hasten to add), and of course the standard visits to courts/prisons etc....

I have had some of the same clients for over 10 years, and often deal with the 'new generation' of my previous clients......therfore this allows me to obtain a very detailed and in depth view of what makes these people tick, what they actually do to get by, and why. Therefore I think that having dealt with thousands of criminal cases over the years makes me infinitely better qualified to make an assertion as I made above. There is nothing cosy about criminal litigation...I think you are confusing us with civil litigators...

BTW...I also grew up in the inner city and still have deep rooted ties to the inner city....

Just to set the record straight.
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
Blair's proposing it though, inee?
Like he proposes lots of other things. Talk is very ,very easy.

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Old 06 August 2005, 05:12 PM
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Moses, lynching is hanging people unlawfully. I don't condone people being attacked on the streets, but it's not lynching. The police are the rightful agents of law-enforcement in this country and it's up to them to sort it out, along with the cooperation of the various communities that need to keep their hot-headed youth in check. It shows that some of the muslim leaders have no respect for the rightful law-enforcers of this country when he said that he wouldn't report a muslim whom he knew was planning a bombing to the Police... he would sort it out himself.

He is one of the "undesirables" that needs to go.
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
Moses, lynching is hanging people unlawfully. I don't condone people being attacked on the streets, but it's not lynching. The police are the rightful agents of law-enforcement in this country and it's up to them to sort it out, along with the cooperation of the various communities that need to keep their hot-headed youth in check. It shows that some of the muslim leaders have no respect for the rightful law-enforcers of this country when he said that he wouldn't report a muslim whom he knew was planning a bombing to the Police... he would sort it out himself.

He is one of the "undesirables" that needs to go.

first of all, u dont have a clue do u, that guy on the newsnight isnt even a muslim leader he is part of that al ghabar movement a new name for al muhajiroun , where the **** did it say he was a muslim leader, he was a britisn born fanatic.

and lynching dont mean u need to hang someone, oppression is far worse than murder, the way its going on, u just gonna make good and levelheaded muslim youth to turn extreme and give it back to the white bigots

then it will be in the front pages and wont talk about what caused it in the first place
Old 06 August 2005, 05:40 PM
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moses, you have said in a number of your posts across scoobynet that whites are bigots unyet you too have bigoted views.
Old 06 August 2005, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by turboman786
I think not matey. If you actually knew what I did for a living you would realise that I spend an awful lot of time with clients, at their homes, at the scenes of crime(after the event I hasten to add), and of course the standard visits to courts/prisons etc....

I have had some of the same clients for over 10 years, and often deal with the 'new generation' of my previous clients......therfore this allows me to obtain a very detailed and in depth view of what makes these people tick, what they actually do to get by, and why. Therefore I think that having dealt with thousands of criminal cases over the years makes me infinitely better qualified to make an assertion as I made above. There is nothing cosy about criminal litigation...I think you are confusing us with civil litigators...

BTW...I also grew up in the inner city and still have deep rooted ties to the inner city....

Just to set the record straight.
Can you tell us a little more ? If needed in a separate thread.

I'd be very intrested to read about your experience in this area.
Old 06 August 2005, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by moses
2 different things its like the muslim boys who bombed on the 7/7 everyone is talking about it and muslims r being lynched but a white guy( nail bomber) done something similiar and no one wanted to ban the nf and do something about his british national party and c18 links did they no, they were free to practice what they do
Not a good comparison mate. As far as i remember, the london nail bomber wasn't motivated by politics, religion or racism, he was a single loon who had a big problem with shirtlifters. He wasn't connected to any other people or groups was he?

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Originally Posted by Chip
Like he proposes lots of other things. Talk is very ,very easy.

Chip
The *reality* is - he has paid lip service (like he always does) and buggered off on holiday for two months.

Nothing's changed. Nothing will change. The bloke's a c*nt.
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Originally Posted by Iwan
Not a good comparison mate. As far as i remember, the london nail bomber wasn't motivated by politics, religion or racism, he was a single loon who had a big problem with shirtlifters. He wasn't connected to any other people or groups was he?

not just shirtlifters mate, he blasted some ethnic area's and u mind the lil babys head the nail just missed his brain, he was a c18 and a nf member

same could be said about these 4 bombers of 7/7 they werent al qaida or a part of a group and were brainwashed and became foot soldiers for an evil cause, same as this guy the nail bomber , all hitler memoribilia and waffen ss stuff and saddam hussain pics in his bedroom etc, my friend iwan u should try to go and chat in the blood and honour website c18 stuff without getting chucked out and see what filth they speak about
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Originally Posted by Soulgirl
moses, you have said in a number of your posts across scoobynet that whites are bigots unyet you too have bigoted views.

soulgirl do i need to even answer your question miss acid tongue

me a bigot probably 1% compared to your bigotness and i said white bigots not whites r bigots

i dont class humans as a colour besides bigots , u read enuff of my posts to understand that or do i need to repeat it again

talk about this threads subject and dont try to divert it to something else
Old 06 August 2005, 07:17 PM
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If you call me a bigot because I belive in Great Britain then that's up to you. When in Rome as the saying goes
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Originally Posted by Soulgirl
If you call me a bigot because I belive in Great Britain then that's up to you. When in Rome as the saying goes
go and order a *****


http://www.annsummers.com/

and let this thread be
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I didn't want to get into the politics of this thread but I only have one real beef with the racist issue

Why o Why is he refered to as the "Murdered BLACK Teenager" as was Stephen Lawrence

Yes he was a victim of a racist crime but surely his colour doesn't matter

The Press seem to over state the "Black" bit

It was a terrible crime but TBH it would have been a terrible crime whatever colour he was

I don't see my friends like here comes my black friend Ade or my Asian friend Ashok

I SEE ME FRIENDS


So Media lets not get RACIST lets put these Racist Murder's away for life
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Originally Posted by moses
not just shirtlifters mate, he blasted some ethnic area's and u mind the lil babys head the nail just missed his brain, he was a c18 and a nf member
I didn't realise that, shame he wasn't killed by one of his own bombs then.

same could be said about these 4 bombers of 7/7 they werent al qaida or a part of a group and were brainwashed and became foot soldiers for an evil cause, same as this guy the nail bomber , all hitler memoribilia and waffen ss stuff and saddam hussain pics in his bedroom etc, my friend iwan u should try to go and chat in the blood and honour website c18 stuff without getting chucked out and see what filth they speak about
If you don't mind i'll give that a miss buddy - not the sort of people I want to get even remotely close to. I'll take your word for it.
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Originally Posted by phil_stephens
I didn't want to get into the politics of this thread but I only have one real beef with the racist issue

Why o Why is he refered to as the "Murdered BLACK Teenager" as was Stephen Lawrence

Yes he was a victim of a racist crime but surely his colour doesn't matter
I agree, I keep thinking the same when i hear that on the news. It's a life, end of story.
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Originally Posted by moses
go and order a *****


http://www.annsummers.com/

and let this thread be
Popped your sexist hat on now have you
Old 06 August 2005, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by moses
and lynching dont mean u need to hang someone
Unfortunately, I'm afraid it does. In the same way that murder involves the killing of a person. Sorry.
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Originally Posted by Iwan
I didn't realise that, shame he wasn't killed by one of his own bombs then.



If you don't mind i'll give that a miss buddy - not the sort of people I want to get even remotely close to. I'll take your word for it.

cheers iwan your one lad i dont like to debate with, your my friend , we aint met but i see u as a brother and a friend so if anyone of my other posts hurt u a lil bit, just remember me bud u know me better than those words sometimes i can sound a lil extreme even to myself so if they did hurt u a lil im sorry bud , i didnt mean it, specially not towards my friends

u enjoy the rest of the weekend



lol bubba po, lynching for me is anything oppressive or making a community a scapegoat, u dont need to hang anyone nowadays just persecute them

but no worries, my english is different according to yours, we understand our words differently each to their own i say
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No, Moses... I understand English . I don't know what language you're speaking. Perhaps you go to the pub for a few carrots and come out drunk, or maybe you have a 400bhp muffin in the garage. To me, words have specific meanings, and if you don't stick to them then misunderstanding and anarchy rule.

But that's par for the course, regarding your thought-processes as well as your posts.
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I just wish people would stop killing each other for whatever lame reason they think have to do it. I think hacking the young black lad with an axe goes beyond racism, thats Psychopathic and I would imagine that trancends any notion of race, creed or colour the animals had. Getting that Joey Barton to make a statement on TV was bad form as the little **** has form of his own, remember the Cigar incident, doesnt really say much about the Barton's as a family to me, I may be wrong they may be a lovely bunch but Stubbing a Cigar out in one persons eye and hacking another to bits in the street dont make me want to meet them.

I mean the papers have got there teeth into it with the race angle and are just creating tension at a time when there is enough anyway between various sections of society. No matter what the Police do, it will be their fault and several top brass will have to resign for cocking it up.

I think the whole racism, sexism, homophobia, faith hate thing is bollocks anyway, its just human nature, even if we all looked the same we would probably form divisions based on some other critieria, oh guess what, we do, look at football violence, young men battling each other based on which particular group of blokes that kick a ball around a park they support. Along the same lines, gang violence, more aggro based on what colour hanky you have in your pocket.

I say human nature but to be honest its generally males I am ashamed to say, most of the premier league genocidal maniacs throughout history have been male, ethnic cleansing to the female of the species would mean giving a bath to some minority or other that needed it.

Perhaps if we were all sprayed the same colour it would help, ban all that religion stuff as in my opinion its all mumbo jumbo (and I am apparently entitled to that opinion), perhaps also if we got over the fact that some men like the company of other men and some ladies prefer a nice fanny to a ***** it might be easier, in fact I think the Gay community need to take that point on board more than anyone, Gay Pride ? why, I am not proud to be heterosexual it just happened that way and I dont feel the need to jump on the back of a flat bed truck dressed as Carmen Miranda to tell everyone about it.
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Amen, Jacko.
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Well said
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
No, Moses... I understand English . I don't know what language you're speaking. Perhaps you go to the pub for a few carrots and come out drunk, or maybe you have a 400bhp muffin in the garage. To me, words have specific meanings, and if you don't stick to them then misunderstanding and anarchy rule.

But that's par for the course, regarding your thought-processes as well as your posts.

no worries and i dont drink alkie i wouldnt mind alcohol free guiness if they ever made it

peace
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
I just wish people would stop killing each other for whatever lame reason they think have to do it. I think hacking the young black lad with an axe goes beyond racism, thats Psychopathic and I would imagine that trancends any notion of race, creed or colour the animals had. Getting that Joey Barton to make a statement on TV was bad form as the little **** has form of his own, remember the Cigar incident, doesnt really say much about the Barton's as a family to me, I may be wrong they may be a lovely bunch but Stubbing a Cigar out in one persons eye and hacking another to bits in the street dont make me want to meet them.

I mean the papers have got there teeth into it with the race angle and are just creating tension at a time when there is enough anyway between various sections of society. No matter what the Police do, it will be their fault and several top brass will have to resign for cocking it up.

I think the whole racism, sexism, homophobia, faith hate thing is bollocks anyway, its just human nature, even if we all looked the same we would probably form divisions based on some other critieria, oh guess what, we do, look at football violence, young men battling each other based on which particular group of blokes that kick a ball around a park they support. Along the same lines, gang violence, more aggro based on what colour hanky you have in your pocket.

I say human nature but to be honest its generally males I am ashamed to say, most of the premier league genocidal maniacs throughout history have been male, ethnic cleansing to the female of the species would mean giving a bath to some minority or other that needed it.

Perhaps if we were all sprayed the same colour it would help, ban all that religion stuff as in my opinion its all mumbo jumbo (and I am apparently entitled to that opinion), perhaps also if we got over the fact that some men like the company of other men and some ladies prefer a nice fanny to a ***** it might be easier, in fact I think the Gay community need to take that point on board more than anyone, Gay Pride ? why, I am not proud to be heterosexual it just happened that way and I dont feel the need to jump on the back of a flat bed truck dressed as Carmen Miranda to tell everyone about it.

well said jacko but i do disagree with the part about leave out religion, its never ever to do with religion but a mans own fecked up mind and his ideaology


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