Weight Training - Protein Supplements
14 August 2005, 10:45 PM
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Not sure if many people saw 'Battledome' when it was aired on Bravo a few years ago, but the guys on there were if great shape, big but athletic.
Two guys, D.O.A and the Commander stand out, I would be happy to get into half of there physiques!
Kam
Two guys, D.O.A and the Commander stand out, I would be happy to get into half of there physiques!
Kam
15 August 2005, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by super_si
could be 30% fat 
Si
Si
Si i really wish it was mate, more like 70% i'm heading towards Glenn Ross proportions - without the muscle ha ha
15 August 2005, 01:08 AM
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It's not right nor natural to take supplements or steroids. You are what you are, why plump that up artificially?
It's reminicent of womens boob jobs but without the surgery
It's reminicent of womens boob jobs but without the surgery
15 August 2005, 01:23 AM
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Nothing wrong with supplements, they are natural and safe enough, well they would not sell them in H&B if they were not safe.
And as for steroids, i personally have never took then or will, but i do not judge people who do, they know the side effects and safety issues and it is up to them!
I know a guy who has took them for over 20 years now, and gets regular check ups and he isin great shape! for a 50 year old!
And as for steroids, i personally have never took then or will, but i do not judge people who do, they know the side effects and safety issues and it is up to them!
I know a guy who has took them for over 20 years now, and gets regular check ups and he isin great shape! for a 50 year old!
15 August 2005, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Soulgirl
It's not right nor natural to take supplements or steroids. You are what you are, why plump that up artificially?
Steroids is a whole different ballgame - you can't lump them in with a discussion on supplements.
To answer the original question - MetRX - seems to do the job.
15 August 2005, 08:14 AM
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Don't need to justify it to anyone
Just dispelling some myths, that's all.
Are you one of these people who considers steroids inherently dangerous..?
Just dispelling some myths, that's all.
Are you one of these people who considers steroids inherently dangerous..?
15 August 2005, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
YOU know as well as anyone here that powerlifting doesn't make you pretty, just very strong and bulky.
look at most of the top bodybuilders, in particular ronnie coleman. they have powerlifting backgrounds and/or they lift heavy in 1-5 rep range primarily (powerlifting style training) based around squat/bench/dead.
looking pretty is about diet.
if ever you see a really big powerlifter go on a strict cutting diet, they always always wipe the floor with everyone at a bodybuilding competition.
15 August 2005, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Warwick-hunt
i think you should do less gear longer breaks and make your gains more steady rather than doing the yo yo , imo
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15 August 2005, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
alias uncoverd
I have already had a word in their ears.
Chip
And she's right, he is hideous.
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16 August 2005, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Warwick-hunt
smart ones do
there is no evidence that being on for years causes any more suppression than being on for 8/10/12 weeks. i know guys who have recovered fine having been on for 5, even 10 years, on high dose (even by my standards). and plenty of people do come off HRT successfully too, showing that long-term suppression isn't necessarily worse than short-term... you're either suppressed or you're not.
a sensible dose consistently gives the best, most solid gains with the least sides... if you are into this seriously. and lets face it, if you're not serious, why bother risking your body with steroids at all?
for your first year or 2 of steroids, cycling is fine. but if you are looking to be (say) 260lbs @ 8%, you will struggle to achieve that without staying on... unless you are a very lucky ******* when it comes to genetics.
16 August 2005, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by milo
so its smart to constantly screw with your hormone levels and lose a huge chunk of your gains each time you come off?
there is no evidence that being on for years causes any more suppression than being on for 8/10/12 weeks. i know guys who have recovered fine having been on for 5, even 10 years, on high dose (even by my standards). and plenty of people do come off HRT successfully too, showing that long-term suppression isn't necessarily worse than short-term... you're either suppressed or you're not.
a sensible dose consistently gives the best, most solid gains with the least sides... if you are into this seriously. and lets face it, if you're not serious, why bother risking your body with steroids at all?
for your first year or 2 of steroids, cycling is fine. but if you are looking to be (say) 260lbs @ 8%, you will struggle to achieve that without staying on... unless you are a very lucky ******* when it comes to genetics.
there is no evidence that being on for years causes any more suppression than being on for 8/10/12 weeks. i know guys who have recovered fine having been on for 5, even 10 years, on high dose (even by my standards). and plenty of people do come off HRT successfully too, showing that long-term suppression isn't necessarily worse than short-term... you're either suppressed or you're not.
a sensible dose consistently gives the best, most solid gains with the least sides... if you are into this seriously. and lets face it, if you're not serious, why bother risking your body with steroids at all?
for your first year or 2 of steroids, cycling is fine. but if you are looking to be (say) 260lbs @ 8%, you will struggle to achieve that without staying on... unless you are a very lucky ******* when it comes to genetics.
anyone take this mans advice its superb, he helped me out a yr ago with advice, guy knows his stuff
16 August 2005, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by milo
so its smart to constantly screw with your hormone levels and lose a huge chunk of your gains each time you come off?
well thats why i said smart ones do
why lose a huge chunk of your gains, why? theres is no reason unless you screwed yourself with huge doses to start with.
there is no evidence that being on for years causes any more suppression than being on for 8/10/12 weeks. i know guys who have recovered fine having been on for 5, even 10 years, on high dose (even by my standards). and plenty of people do come off HRT successfully too, showing that long-term suppression isn't necessarily worse than short-term... you're either suppressed or you're not.
not so, receptors can start to degrade in as little as a week, continuing with larger doses only clog the receptors even more, the most successful cycles imo are short term of any one type of gear. and off time is equally important, its the same as overtraining
a sensible dose consistently gives the best, most solid gains with the least sides... if you are into this seriously. and lets face it, if you're not serious, why bother risking your body with steroids at all?
agreed a sensible dose but imo not for too long
for your first year or 2 of steroids, cycling is fine. but if you are looking to be (say) 260lbs @ 8%, you will struggle to achieve that without staying on... unless you are a very lucky ******* when it comes to genetics.
well thats why i said smart ones do
why lose a huge chunk of your gains, why? theres is no reason unless you screwed yourself with huge doses to start with.there is no evidence that being on for years causes any more suppression than being on for 8/10/12 weeks. i know guys who have recovered fine having been on for 5, even 10 years, on high dose (even by my standards). and plenty of people do come off HRT successfully too, showing that long-term suppression isn't necessarily worse than short-term... you're either suppressed or you're not.
not so, receptors can start to degrade in as little as a week, continuing with larger doses only clog the receptors even more, the most successful cycles imo are short term of any one type of gear. and off time is equally important, its the same as overtraining
a sensible dose consistently gives the best, most solid gains with the least sides... if you are into this seriously. and lets face it, if you're not serious, why bother risking your body with steroids at all?
agreed a sensible dose but imo not for too long
for your first year or 2 of steroids, cycling is fine. but if you are looking to be (say) 260lbs @ 8%, you will struggle to achieve that without staying on... unless you are a very lucky ******* when it comes to genetics.
what shows have you won milo?