ozzy

Of course, I'm not saying ignore everything blindly just don't feckin panic over two plane crashes from opposite sides of the world with different aircraft types and completely different aircrew technicians.

It's a miracle that something as big as an aircraft manages to fly in the first place, so I generally celebrate every successful landing

The only thing I don't like is not being in control of my own destiny. If something f*cks up on a flight there's not much you can do about it

mr flibble

it just broke then...

gotta feel sorry for all the families and friends of the 160 people that died.

Sad news

M.

Brit_in_Japan

FCD, some of us are engineers who feel a need to explore technical issues. Some have aerospace experience. Some, like yourself and Leslie have clocked up many hours flying various aircraft. Ultimately the answers will come from the air accident investigators who will have access to data none of us do, but I don't see the harm in having an educated discussion of the circumstances surrounding the events.

The MD-82 crash is very unusual in that it's being reported as a double engine failure (one engine failed and the other failing - as reported by the pilot to ATC). The chance of it being 2 independent engine failures is tiny, so that points to some common mode failure, fuel for instance. Let's hope there's enough of the aircraft left for them to pinpoint what went wrong.

BOB.T

Fuel surge?

ben44

Not taking the p!ss, but does that mean there was a hole in number 3 piston? Being as poor fuel/delivery of fuel is to blame then?

If you don't know (as you have said you don't) don't speculate.

If your kids were on board, would you like people/newspapers making bo!!ocks up just for the sake of it?

Leslie

Nothing wrong in pointing out possible causes of the accident for the sake of general interest with the published information as a guide particularly if you have some knowledge about what may have gone wrong

Les

Iwan

I partly agree, for the sake of the families of those involved. But with the greatest respect to you, where is it written that people can't debate or talk about something unless they're an established expert in their field?

If that were the case, there would never be any discussion about anything.

When something goes wrong, there's often benefit from discussing the incident and any lessons that can be learned to prevent it happening again.

Take technical scuba diving for example (something I know a fair bit about), we often discuss incidents/accidents and 'what if' scenarios in great detail - it's a great way of learning. It's not necessarily morbid or disrespectful.

I guess with flying accidents, there's a lot of interest because:-

a) Accidents are rare (compared to driving/diving/life etc.).
b) They can be spectacular/devastating when they happen.
c) Most people fly fairly often so will naturally have the 'what if it was my flight' type of thoughts.

EvilKyote

Hmm some interesting comments, speculation and conjecture are all part of the forums way of life.

Well using my limited knowledge of aviation I would imagine that the most likely cause could be to do with a bio feedback pulse in the inverted phase converter connected to the warp drive which caused a antimatter flux which led to a destabilisation of the warp matrix antimatter converter which ultimately led to the failure of the warp nassal’s tacion injection module regulator.

Of course this is pure conjecture and by no means could be accurate

In all seriousness thou, never a good thing to hear about and I feel for those affected by such tragedies.


EK

NotoriousREV

As an aviation expert I'd say it's ability to defy gravity failed.