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Old 26 September 2005 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PAUL CRAFTS
Alan are we all brining our own barbies,cos i got the best chef.
Debatable.. I believe Debs did leave some of the cooking to me, which did turn out excellent.. So there'll be some debate as to the No 1 spot..

Dave's got some disposable Barbies, which can set fire to doors and melt tarmac.. (old story from two track days ago), and I'll bring along the trusty Mini used last time.. if you and the No2 Chef have something bigger, better and transportable.. then fill yer boots!!
Old 26 September 2005 | 07:13 PM
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My number 1 chef sayes we will bring ours as well,we will not be going down the motorway too fast will we u know we are still breaking her in.
Old 26 September 2005 | 07:54 PM
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we will not be going down the motorway too fast will we u know we are still breaking her in.
Follow me, I drive like a wuss!
Old 26 September 2005 | 08:02 PM
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will bring generator and kettle for pot noodle(s)
Old 26 September 2005 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by STEVECHAPS
Follow me, I drive like a wuss!
In this?

Old 26 September 2005 | 08:33 PM
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Old 26 September 2005 | 10:35 PM
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Forgot to ask, are there any age restictions for passengers? I'm hoping my mate will be coming with me (its a long way towing a car on a trailer), can I take his 15 year old son out on track? Will also have my turd (son) with me, he's 18 now but fortunately can't drive..... not even a bit. Must run in the family
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No real age limit (as we've never had anyone really young).. We'd probably have a problem with a child seat.. but my lad's been out and he's younger than 15. As long as they wear a helmet and you take responsibility then no probs..
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What about mental age is there any restrictions on that cos mine's quite young


I went to get some Nos Octane Boost (the stuff that I was on about earlier in the thread) yesterday and found they do another version for "racing only" and this one increases RON by up to 6 points!! ........

........I couldn't resist

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Old 27 September 2005 | 07:07 AM
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What about mental age is there any restrictions on that cos mine's quite young


I went to get some Nos Octane Boost (the stuff that I was on about earlier in the thread) yesterday and found they do another version for "racing only" and this one increases RON by up to 6 points!! ........

........I couldn't resist
Must be a bleedin' big bottle if you spotted it
Old 27 September 2005 | 08:43 AM
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Old 27 September 2005 | 11:10 PM
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Guys, I'll be leaving Liverpool @ 6am so may be slightly late arriving as I'm towing
Old 28 September 2005 | 03:03 PM
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I think all the SXOC people are sorted for meeting at Ferrybridge.

Looking forward Although dont think i'll get chance to fit my roll-cage
Old 28 September 2005 | 06:38 PM
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Looking forward to meeting the SXOC Crowd..

RRH.. If you're close and still want to meet up, we can wait for a while if needed... I'll PM my Mobile if you wish..
Old 28 September 2005 | 06:51 PM
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Thanks for the offer Alan, if I get there in time then I'll see you, otherwise I'll catch up- I don't want to disrupt anyone else's day.

If I get the car perfectly placed on the trailer then I can travel pretty quickly and should be at the services before you guys leave. It can take a couple of stops to get it balanced right though...
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Stops to go back and pick the thing up?

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something like that
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Spent £120 on new wheels straps today for all four corners; should hold it tight, but makes it even harder to adjust to get it balanced nicely
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Sticky knows all about balance, He's got the stabilizers off the MTB now
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Originally Posted by Alan C
Looking forward to meeting the SXOC Crowd..
That only happens once

Looking forward to meeting you all too

A bit disappointed TBH, just looked at the weather forecast and chances are its going to be dry a bit of wet weather would have been fun, and it would have meant I wouldnt have to change my wheels and put some sacrificial tyres on

Should be a cool day. Arent your smilies wacky
Old 28 September 2005 | 10:22 PM
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have to change my wheels and put some sacrificial tyres on
several sets from previous experience, especially rears for you guys eh
Old 28 September 2005 | 10:31 PM
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several sets from previous experience, especially rears for you guys eh
funnily enough though, with track driving (as opposed to drifting..) it used to be the fronts that got munched with a surprising amount of understeer... fit ARBs and hey ho the rears get it again.....

I was hoping a set of F1's with 3mm on would be good for a lot of the day but it doesnt sound like it in that case.... I shall just have to use my T1R's, a good excuse I suppose to start killing them as I loathe the things anyway
Old 28 September 2005 | 10:37 PM
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what size do you use steve? if you increase the front tyre pressure you should stop it knocking the shoulders off, but you may damage the turn-in even further.

do you have much geometry adjustment on the front of the SX?
Old 28 September 2005 | 10:47 PM
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what size do you use steve? if you increase the front tyre pressure you should stop it knocking the shoulders off, but you may damage the turn-in even further.

do you have much geometry adjustment on the front of the SX?
235/45/17, in all seriousness they tend to wear pretty well and evenly, I tend to run 34 psi for my F1s on a dry track and 36 psi for the toyos (otherwise they feel awful), compared to 32 psi on a wet track.....

On its current springs the car is 30mm lower than standard, which the front geometry can be adjusted to accomodate .
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235/45/17, in all seriousness they tend to wear pretty well and evenly, I tend to run 34 psi for my F1s on a dry track and 36 psi for the toyos (otherwise they feel awful), compared to 32 psi on a wet track.....

On its current springs the car is 30mm lower than standard, which the front geometry can be adjusted to accomodate .
maybe worth playing with the caster angle on the front to try and eradicate some of the turn-in probs, and negative camber should be easy to induce. I'll speak to john felstead a(one of our handling gurus with SX experience) nd see what he recommends if you like.

I would have thought you're running your pressures a little high, but whilst I know a fair bit about race car geometry I'm not an SX expert.

I think I may have some part worn 17s- taken off when I've punctured one so replaced the pair- will chuck them in the pickup if you like and you can have them free if they're of use to you. I tend to collect things that I'm never again going to have any use for.....

I've also got a load of 17" slicks- might be fun to run them on the front and sh itters on the rear
Old 28 September 2005 | 11:11 PM
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maybe worth playing with the caster angle on the front to try and eradicate some of the turn-in probs, and negative camber should be easy to induce. I'll speak to john felstead a(one of our handling gurus with SX experience) nd see what he recommends if you like.

I would have thought you're running your pressures a little high, but whilst I know a fair bit about race car geometry I'm not an SX expert.

I think I may have some part worn 17s- taken off when I've punctured one so replaced the pair- will chuck them in the pickup if you like and you can have them free if they're of use to you. I tend to collect things that I'm never again going to have any use for.....

I've also got a load of 17" slicks- might be fun to run them on the front and sh itters on the rear
I really like the cars balance as it is, turns in nicely with the current ARB settings (didnt used to), just rolls a touch too much at present on track, but lots of things are getting done in a couple of weeks when it gets a rebuild so that should get sorted..... TBH, since I had it laser aligned, I have never even thought of playing with the geometry.... it may be something to try in the future. Edit to add, I wouldnt even know where to start setting a car up properly for track

The tyre pressures have been trial and error ro get the best wear and handling, although the F1's seem happy to run at 32 which is normal road pressure. The Toyos are awful with lower pressures, even at 36 theyre not the best, they make the car skip and bounce, but at least they are acceptable at that point. I do tend to adjust my pressures too once the tyres have warmed up properly.

The offer of part worns is very kind, thankyou, I can always find a home for sacrificial tyres
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I've also got a load of 17" slicks- might be fun to run them on the front and sh itters on the rear
Oooooh, 17" slicks, now theres a thought... one of my plans this winter is to get a cage put in so I can start using slicks
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They are, on the whole, pretty new tyres.

Why is it you always get a puncture within 500 miles of fitting a new set???

Will have a chat on saturday, will be good to meet you. Have always fancied a go at drifting, and am doing a drift day next wednesday at Oulton, so would appreciate your advice.

Cheers,
Simon.
Old 28 September 2005 | 11:18 PM
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wouldn't worry too much about a cage, in a road car they can be lethal, and sx's aren't known for going on their heads are they?
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They are, on the whole, pretty new tyres.

Why is it you always get a puncture within 500 miles of fitting a new set???

Will have a chat on saturday, will be good to meet you. Have always fancied a go at drifting, and am doing a drift day next wednesday at Oulton, so would appreciate your advice.

Cheers,
Simon.
Unless you have suicidal tendancies I probably wont be able to give you any advice about drifting, this is my first proper year of trackdays so I'm still on the lower part of the learning curve..... drifting isnt something I've had a chance to do yet, now avoiding drifting is something I'm getting better at.

Its going to be a half cage, I wasnt happy about driving it on the road with a full cage.

Mine is the Burgundy S14 starting P150, come over and say hello. The puncture thing is uncanny, happened to me about 100 miles into a new set of F1s, large steel spike fell off a lorry and killed tyre and alloy. That made me feel happy happy joy joy.

Cheers

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