tath

hell of a terminal for that time because he spends the first 1/8th spinning i'd imagine. sounds super.

dangerous100

where do you get 18k from? its a standard cav/calibra turbo engine with a chip and nitrous and a standard box.its not even got a slippy diff in it.standard body with plastic windows,stripped interior and ally dash.how can that lot add up to 18k?

kingofturds

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16k on front tyres

Stiver3

If im correct, that one behind is also quite powerful, but has had a fortune spent on it!

And why does that astra have to have a badboy bonnet???

Trap2Terrorist

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He bought the car, added the NOS and has £17.5k stashed under the back seat!!!! hehehehehehe.

tath

either that or it was towing an STI.

justanotherperson

straight line.....no problem
Big engine/high power what ever, the yanks have been doing it for many years ask them to take a bend and they roll over and let the real car's take position,

the problem being here is that any one and i mean any one can make a car fast wether it be over a short or long distance,but when you ask the said car to go round a bend...well thats different,it take knowledge and expirience to do that and most *average*people cant do that,even with half decent tools and aftermaket products they cant do it,they think they can but thats their problem they only think they can.....when put in the *field*they will shy away with silly exuces(sp)

conclusion....straight line is bollocks,give me the twistys anyday

S2_Neo

The Lad in question is a friend of mine from Swindon, he goes to Uni in Plymouth if im not mistaken, either that, or he works down there.

Yes, the car is Very fast in a straight line. I also believe its a 2L turbo with Nos.

astraoid

Hi, the Astra behind is mine. It's had a fair few quid spent, but tbh most of it was making it look pretty lol - it's an Astra remember - it takes a lot of money to make them look pretty. The go-faster bits have probably cost round £15k - £20k - but you know how these things mount up. I had the car 10 years ago so averaged over that length of time it's not too bad is it?

It's having a bit of an up-grade at the mo, which should see it putting out around 450 - 500 Bhp (Has been around 370 up until now) - no Nos (I don't trust it). Rallycodriver, I'm guessing you're Carl - I'll be speaking to you about those bits we discussed - i've just had to replace an engine mount (For a scooby one incidentally) so the fuelling will have to wait until I've put the welder down.

I think the issue of cost is a bit pointless really, I mean a newish scooby has got to cost, what £15k - £20k or something, and then to achieve 400 Brake or so you've got to dig deep on top of that so if all you're chasing is a Bhp number the scooby method would work out more expensive. I guess if you guys spent £18k on your scoobys the Ferrari forums would be laughing.

I must say - compared to some of the other forums that have picked up on this Astra's claims - you guys have responded, on the whole, with positive, constructive remarks. It's good to see some people can be open minded to other marques instead of just slagging them off.

Trap2Terrorist

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Welcome astraoid, I have a question for you....

How do you get that many horses onto the road through two front wheels???? And do you get torque steer???

Regards.

scoobyboy1

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What about that 1.2 orange looking Renault Clio thats got 300bhp with a 1.8T engine out of the Audi TT. His car looks a pile of crap with the steal wheels and standard looking bodywork, But I would rather take that car over a new WRX, can you imagine the fun you can have when watching the smile wiped off the faces of Cosworth and Evo owners when they cant catch you.

scoobyboy1

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Here are some threads ive found with that Clio:

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthrea...io+Audi+engine

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthrea...io+Audi+engine

Swen6

White Astra???, i saw one in Hemel Hempstead friday night, i think it was a 5dr though and that was fookin' quick, bearing in mind i've a V5 type R, in the short distance i put my foot down he didn't get away but then again i didn't really catch him .

Also a friend of mine a few years back had a Mk3 GSI in metalic blue, that had a Calibra Turbo engine with a few trick bits on brought from Courtney Turbos, same as earlier comments fast as you like in a straight line but like a boat round corners, another friend who was in Clio Williams wiped the floor whith him, pure and simple because he could go round corners in control.

astraoid

Thanks for the welcome. Yep, traction has always been an issue. Up until now, I've dealt with it as best as i could with a Quaife LSD and a set of Toyo PXR888s which have helped. I'm not much into the quarter mile side of things tbh, but on the few occasions i have gone up the pod it's proved quite difficult to get it the power down.

With the current upgrade i've changed the management to Autronic, which has a launch control function to help me out a bit, but there's no way the car will make full use of the 450+ until the car is running 4WD (This is planned for the winter) Obviously when the car is on the move traction isn't too much of a problem, but it's got to be a dry day lol

tath

How are you going to go about making it 4wd? Using the vauxhall system and a locked box with calibra IRS welded on and a big hole hacked in the bulkhead for the transfer box? Should be interesting

Trap2Terrorist

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I bet, a mate of mine took me out in the wet in his Alpha 147 GTA and that struggled to cope with the wet roads......

4WD is the way to go, how much is that going to cost you (if you don't mind me asking)?

astraoid

We'll probably do the conversion ourselves (Pretty much as tath said) athough I may ditch the vauxhall transfer box and have one made up. EDS Motorsport in Germany have a 4x4 Mk1 Astra Demo car and charge around £5k to do the conversion for the Mk2.

Some of the guys on this forum may know Dave Parnell, through rallying, and he's up for doing the job for around a grand (handy as he's local), but I think I'll just be a bit brave and do it ourselves. I did have all the bits ready last year but they got scrapped by accident with the Calibra shell, so I'm on the lookout for a decent donar car now.

Moley

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Too much power through the front wheels in why i sold my old car (Astra Turbo)



The thing was awesome in a straight line, but corners were another matter, especially in the wet!

astraoid

I like that. Very nice.

Robs Astra (The white one) has been built for straight line speed imo (although he'll probably deny that), whilst i'm more interested in track action days so the 4x4 will be the right way to go for a more balanced ride - you only have to look at the norris designs evos to see how awesome 4x4 around castle coombe can be!

Did you have a LSD in that Astra, because i can honestly say that after 3 months or so of learning how they work, they prove to be the single most important addition to a FWD turbocharged car.

tath

I've got the rear arms, rear diff (x2 or 3!) and a propshaft if you need them. Got a couple of transfer boxes but ones seals have gone and the other is only a GSI one, although they'd do as exchanges to someone like dorfbrunnen or cav16.

Good luck!

matchmaker

I would tend to agree............putting a mere 216 bhp down in my vRS can be fun

chiark

You are going to have trouble finding a scoob to "annihilate" this- 12.5 out of a front wheel drive car is a hell of an achievement and I take my hat off to the guy

The fact that one scoob on here got a 12.5 with terminal 107mph compared to 121 of the astra shows you what an advantage 4wd has off the line, but also shows how bloody fast the astra would be once rolling.

Throw in the twisties, and if the chap knows how to drive his car then the weight advantage might outweigh the advantage of AWD unless it's wet.

You will need a pretty serious impreza IMHO, and any sort of demonstration on a public road would be daft in the extreme as the impreza's traction advantage will be negated once everything's rolling.

Fair play to him tho, that is a fast car however you look at it!

chip-3door

Sensible reply that mate, good to see someone who isnt as blinkered as some of the "all the gear and no idea" normal scooby owners for once.

Easy to get a lightweight fwd car to push scoobys round the corners on a track, handling isnt the property of 4wd cars only.

Obviously down a wet and muddy b road the astra is about as much use as a bird with no ****, but in a sprint on dry tarmac its a fooking animal.

When i get back from driving that astra and jump in my 300bhp+ cossie or my mates 300bhp imprezza or other cars of that type they just feel like a kiddys pedal cars for acceleration once moving.

From 60-150 you would need about 600bhp in a scooby to compete, but Dspeed doesnt seem to be able to grasp that fact for some reason!

That astra has a power to weight ratio AT THE WHEELS of around 400bhp per tonne!

Andy.F

You would need approx 400-450 bhp in a classic scoob to match that terminal on the 1/4m. 600bhp would be leaving it out of sight !

Andy

chip-3door

I was saying you would need 600bhp to match it from 60-150 (ie the sort of speeds you normally encounter in a "road race") not to match it up the quarter.


Ive yet to see any 400bhp scooby manage a 121mph terminal on the quarter though, are you sure on that?

Most 400-450bhp scoobies ive seen tend to run in the 12s but with around 110mph terminal, but i dont profess to be very knowledgeable about scooby's so i stand to be corrected.


PS

going by UK ones anyway, for some reason foreign jap cars always seem to be a lot faster than UK ones of the same spec!

Brun

Know of any that will do that Andy?

chip-3door

As an example:
BOB'5 on here runs a 1/4mile in 12.09secs@ 114.2mph

So although in front of the astra at the end of the quarter, he wouldnt be half a mile later if they raced over a bigger distance, and from a rolling start the astra would beat him.

Aztec Performance Ltd

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<<< Thats on a UK car with 350bhp Bolt on mods only

chip-3door

Well that is very good going from what ive seen, most other uk scooby owners are obviously either crap drivers or lie about their power then Mr BOB'5

Based on your car i can see how a 450bhp imprezza could match the astra's terminal maybe then, although still probably couldnt match it in the sort of race the lad in question was talking about (ie from a rolling start meeting someone on an A road or motorway)

chip-3door

Ps

Astra is standard engine internally too at the moment, next year we will be fitting an engine similar to one im building currently for another car, steel rods, steel crank etc.

It had 14 bent valves 2 days before the event, so that time was just the time for it literally put back together as quickly as possible for the event, its not at all indictive of its performance now that we have it running right.

At the event at york (at TOTB when it did the 121mph terminal) I woudl estimate it was also only running around 350bhp anyway as opposed to over 400bhp now, due to a quite horrific boost leak from the ICV. so it was leaking metered air and running very badly too rich, its far more power now since that has been sorted, so it would run 125mph+ now for certain.

So anyone who wants to do Dspeed a favour and beat it as it stands now like he was asking needs more than they would have when it ran those times at TOTB as its far quicker now than it was then, we just havent had it back to the strip to quantify it yet.