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#31
Originally Posted by mart360
been here before old boy!!!!
earliest bus is at 7.0am... takes 60 mins to get to where i work... i start at 7.45...
and no one lives in the same county as me...
earliest bus is at 7.0am... takes 60 mins to get to where i work... i start at 7.45...
and no one lives in the same county as me...
A bus would take me 60 minutes to get work as well, so instead I cycle which only takes 35 minutes.
#33
Originally Posted by Ben WRX Bug-Eye
Can't see this grand effort convincing many people that the best solution isn't simply for the government to reduce taxation on the stuff though.
It's not as "simple" as just reducing fuel duty is it.
#34
Originally Posted by mart360
if you think i,m going to cycle to work , put a happy 2 year old on the back, and play with 11 miles of suicidal dual carrageway
dont even go there...
M
dont even go there...
M
If I drive the 11 miles to work, I use a dual carriageway. If I cycle the 11 miles to work, I don't.
Nursery at work, but don't use it. Use one near house.
#35
Originally Posted by imlach
Yes....all 1.75p of it from the recent 10p increase in pump prices then....so instead of paying 99.9p/litre, you'd be paying 98.2p instead if the goverment waived the additional vat....earth shattering.
The way some of you lot go on, you'd think the goverment had suddenly started charging you 10-20p more for your petrol!
However, why should they reduce it? The price of coffee is going up, but I don't hear calls for vat on that to be reduced...
VAT is VAT. It applies to all luxury items (of which fuel for your private car is one).
The way some of you lot go on, you'd think the goverment had suddenly started charging you 10-20p more for your petrol!
However, why should they reduce it? The price of coffee is going up, but I don't hear calls for vat on that to be reduced...
VAT is VAT. It applies to all luxury items (of which fuel for your private car is one).
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Originally Posted by imlach
...and for the n'th time, where is the tax deficit left by fuel duty reductions going to be filled from?
It's not as "simple" as just reducing fuel duty is it.
It's not as "simple" as just reducing fuel duty is it.
#37
Originally Posted by NotoriousREV
Hmm, I make that an extra £1bn (roughly) in govt revenue per year. Not exactly small change, is it?
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Originally Posted by imlach
£1bn is 0.2% of government income in 2005-2006 to be exact
#39
Originally Posted by Ben WRX Bug-Eye
for the n'th time by taxing aviation fuel. This is doing plenty of harm to the environment, and people really do make a choice to go on holiday! Surprised nobody is concentrating on it - no the 'evil' motor car gets all the attention. Or they could tax alcohol higher and hence tackle binge drinking. There is an endless list of things they could tax higher.
Unfortunately, this is not quite so "simple" either, must as I wish it could be.
It needs worldwide agreement on taxing aviation fuel, otherwise no-one would fly into the UK and refuel. Everyone would refuel in countries where fuel is untaxed. Other countries with less morals would then take advantage.
Alcohol higher? Yep, why not. Sadly, prices would have to skyrocket to cover the deficit left by a fuel duty reduction.
Taxation is a balance. No one person will ever be happy with the way it is done.
#40
Originally Posted by Ben WRX Bug-Eye
Amazing to think where it all goes... and how much is really benefiting the indigenous hard working people of this country.
Yes, easy to pick on social services or welfare state as one you don't agree with, and easy to forget about the services you use every day and don't think about - they all have to be paid for somehow.
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Originally Posted by imlach
I completely agree re the harm of aviation fuel.
Unfortunately, this is not quite so "simple" either, must as I wish it could be.
It needs worldwide agreement on taxing aviation fuel, otherwise no-one would fly into the UK and refuel. Everyone would refuel in countries where fuel is untaxed. Other countries with less morals would then take advantage.
Alcohol higher? Yep, why not. Sadly, prices would have to skyrocket to cover the deficit left by a fuel duty reduction.
Taxation is a balance. No one person will ever be happy with the way it is done.
Unfortunately, this is not quite so "simple" either, must as I wish it could be.
It needs worldwide agreement on taxing aviation fuel, otherwise no-one would fly into the UK and refuel. Everyone would refuel in countries where fuel is untaxed. Other countries with less morals would then take advantage.
Alcohol higher? Yep, why not. Sadly, prices would have to skyrocket to cover the deficit left by a fuel duty reduction.
Taxation is a balance. No one person will ever be happy with the way it is done.
#42
Originally Posted by Ben WRX Bug-Eye
I respect your view but can't see how it can be argued that 60% plus tax on anything is reasonable. I would argue that the government should be wasting less quite frankly on various things that I couldn't care less about, but then we could debate fiscal policy and taxation for an eternity I imagine. It will interesting to see what happens over the next few months. If nobody bothers to protest then your point will be proved.
Wine - anything up to 60% tax.
**** - 85% tax.
If you drink £3 wine, £1.19 of it is duty, and 52.5p of it is VAT....which makes £1.72 of your £3 wine as tax (nearly 60%).
Part of living in a free democracy is the goverment spending money on things "you couldn't care less about". I'm sure there's plenty who "couldn't care less about your car usage"
#44
Originally Posted by imlach
No, not the main factor to be honest. Soaring demand from China & India is one of the major factors, and also speculative traders taking the price up.
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Aye I paid 1.01.99 for Optimax in Billinge yesterday... I dont normally bother with the overpriced over rated stuff but now and again I treat my car...
'No more treats' I said as I patted the steering wheel yesterday.... We shared a moment before driving off It was moving, moving indeed
'No more treats' I said as I patted the steering wheel yesterday.... We shared a moment before driving off It was moving, moving indeed
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