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Originally Posted by Mitchy260
Neilo...You do know your bottle is incorrectly positioned
Should be mounted front to rear on an incline as to get nitrous flow in all circumstances
Should be mounted front to rear on an incline as to get nitrous flow in all circumstances
might just be my opinion but if your fogger nozzle was in the centre at the top the bias wouldnt be towards the right bank of engine(other input appreciated)
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Originally Posted by doppelganger
minimum 15 degrees highest at the front that way when you are getting low the nos is pushed to the back and easier for the syphon tube to be fed .
might just be my opinion but if your fogger nozzle was in the centre at the top the bias wouldnt be towards the right bank of engine(other input appreciated)
might just be my opinion but if your fogger nozzle was in the centre at the top the bias wouldnt be towards the right bank of engine(other input appreciated)
The only problem I can see is the limitations of space.
Just one question for Neilo, do you simply tap into the fuel line at the standard pressure or does the pressure need to change? I already have a 255lt Walbro fitted.
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Originally Posted by Welloilbeefhooked
I was thinking about mounting mine on the underneath IC, just before the outlet to the throttle body so that it flows evenly through.
The only problem I can see is the limitations of space.
Just one question for Neilo, do you simply tap into the fuel line at the standard pressure or does the pressure need to change? I already have a 255lt Walbro fitted.
The only problem I can see is the limitations of space.
Just one question for Neilo, do you simply tap into the fuel line at the standard pressure or does the pressure need to change? I already have a 255lt Walbro fitted.
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Originally Posted by Mark_S
"they bog down on the line cos of the 4 wheel drive "
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Originally Posted by Welloilbeefhooked
I was thinking about mounting mine on the underneath IC, just before the outlet to the throttle body so that it flows evenly through.
The only problem I can see is the limitations of space.
Just one question for Neilo, do you simply tap into the fuel line at the standard pressure or does the pressure need to change? I already have a 255lt Walbro fitted.
The only problem I can see is the limitations of space.
Just one question for Neilo, do you simply tap into the fuel line at the standard pressure or does the pressure need to change? I already have a 255lt Walbro fitted.
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Just to let you all know that 150bhp jets with no controller is the best way to go. Its the most fun I've ever had in the scoob. Only downside is some serious whiplass.
Engine lasted about 2 full bottles aswell before the piston hit the bonnet ;o)
Engine lasted about 2 full bottles aswell before the piston hit the bonnet ;o)
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yes in that pic the bottle is mounted wrong, ive since changed it but you get the idea....The bottle is not flat, it is on an incline...thats just the orientation of the pic throws you off...
the coldfusion kit comes with matched NO2 and Fuel jet sizes, so you cant really get the fuelling wrong, which is great. You just have to T-off the fuel line after the fuel filter and thats it....
the coldfusion kit comes with matched NO2 and Fuel jet sizes, so you cant really get the fuelling wrong, which is great. You just have to T-off the fuel line after the fuel filter and thats it....
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Just to let you all know that 150bhp jets with no controller is the best way to go. Its the most fun I've ever had in the scoob. Only downside is some serious whiplass.
Engine lasted about 2 full bottles aswell before the piston hit the bonnet ;o)
Engine lasted about 2 full bottles aswell before the piston hit the bonnet ;o)
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Originally Posted by Mark_S
"they bog down on the line cos of the 4 wheel drive "
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Originally Posted by Nick Read
ROFL my thoughts exactly...try 240bhp through a FWD Clio then tell me about problems getting off the line cleanly. I ended up running 13.3@107mph in that, and my 60ft times were never less than 2.3...
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Originally Posted by Neilo
its hardly the 4wd systems fault though...that would happen in any car surely..
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Last edited by ZEN Performance; 16 September 2005 at 01:58 PM. Reason: not bogged with 1 bar yet...
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Originally Posted by Zen Performance
Where many 2wd cars will allow the tyres to spin, 4wd cars may not. Although lots of wheelspin isn't good for launches, a little can make life a whole lot easier. With sticky tyres on a sticky prepped track, I can still bog from a 5500 rpm launch at full throttle and 0.5 bar of boost. Doing something like increasing tyre pressures, or reducing diff lock to allow some controlable wheelspin can improve 60ft times on very grippy tracks (or save your clutch!)
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Originally Posted by Neilo
for a small shot like that it should be ok, the only problem is with the pfc, there is no ignition retard, do you have the commander to keep an eye on knock activity?
it helps brilliantly with spool up....bout 1.6bar at about 2200
the rest sounds good...
you could probably alwasy ask andy as he runs it (obviously for power gain) in his drag car...
it helps brilliantly with spool up....bout 1.6bar at about 2200
the rest sounds good...
you could probably alwasy ask andy as he runs it (obviously for power gain) in his drag car...
I was hoping that I could run a 25 shot from 2000rpm. What do you think?
If I have a walbro 255lt pump and a standard reg, what pressure should the system be running at?
Also, after speaking to Andy, he says that an early shot of nitrous that blends out as the boost comes in shouldn't require timing adjustments, but if it did I have the commander nearly mounted in a custom display in the dash so can do a global retard.
Wayne.
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I wont activate mine until 3000rpm but its on a controller so its probably about 4000 rpm that 100% of the nitrous flow comes in! Take it upto 7000rpm so a good 3000rpm nitrous range.
Nitrous gets safer and safer the higher up the rev range you go, i'd say 2000 is a tad to early. Even for a 25hp shot!
I know on the wizards kit you do not need to worry about fuel pressure and flow as the metering jets sort that out. As long as you get the correct ratio of nitrous/fuel then thats all you need to worry about.
Nitrous gets safer and safer the higher up the rev range you go, i'd say 2000 is a tad to early. Even for a 25hp shot!
I know on the wizards kit you do not need to worry about fuel pressure and flow as the metering jets sort that out. As long as you get the correct ratio of nitrous/fuel then thats all you need to worry about.
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Originally Posted by Mitchy260
I wont activate mine until 3000rpm but its on a controller so its probably about 4000 rpm that 100% of the nitrous flow comes in! Take it upto 7000rpm so a good 3000rpm nitrous range.
Nitrous gets safer and safer the higher up the rev range you go, i'd say 2000 is a tad to early. Even for a 25hp shot!
I know on the wizards kit you do not need to worry about fuel pressure and flow as the metering jets sort that out. As long as you get the correct ratio of nitrous/fuel then thats all you need to worry about.
Nitrous gets safer and safer the higher up the rev range you go, i'd say 2000 is a tad to early. Even for a 25hp shot!
I know on the wizards kit you do not need to worry about fuel pressure and flow as the metering jets sort that out. As long as you get the correct ratio of nitrous/fuel then thats all you need to worry about.
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Originally Posted by doppelganger
no disrespect to scoobies at all but generally 1/4 milers they aint ,they bog down on the line cos of the 4 wheel drive ,you need to spend a lot of money to get them of the line ,60 foot times are a bit dire .but saying that i love the scooby engines ,great to work on and they fit in volkswagens stick it in a beetle couple of mods and 320bhp @the wheels dyno`ed at raceshack a couple of weeks ago. not WON equipped.
i couldnt get the video could you tell me the times of the focus and scooby in question.cheers
i couldnt get the video could you tell me the times of the focus and scooby in question.cheers
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My bro has just had a WON kit fitted to his Civic TypeR plus a remap, hes got loads of Mugen goodies too (intake & exhaust) and is now pulling 252bhp at the wheels, its like **** of a shovel but its carefully mapped to come in at 3-4K in the right conditions but I can tell you torque steer in triple figures = brown pants
1190 KG's means a fantastic power/weight ratio, I reckon it will frighten a lot more expensive machinery
1190 KG's means a fantastic power/weight ratio, I reckon it will frighten a lot more expensive machinery
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has he run it yet like that? i went up against a nitroused CTR which claimed to be the fastest NA one in the UK and it ran a 13.5 i think at the time?
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He's not done a 1/4 yet but I'm sure he will, he's only been through a few bottles so far and is just getting the hang. The remap and mugen parts made a huge difference anyway but the NOS adds a different dimension once its up to speed.
Activating the NOS toggles in a different ignition and fuel map, I have seen the maps on his laptop and they are top notch, he can even vary his VTEC parameters.
Activating the NOS toggles in a different ignition and fuel map, I have seen the maps on his laptop and they are top notch, he can even vary his VTEC parameters.
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I've got a WON kit on my car (ok, it's not a Scoob) with a progressive controller and 50bhp jets. The only advice I would give is not to let WON themselves fit it (ie. Trevor and his "boys" in Doncaster), I paid someone else to do the job properly after they made a complete hash of it. Plus since then, they've denied ever having fitted nitrous to a Focus to a fellow club member I know
Never had any problems with the kit so far though
Never had any problems with the kit so far though
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