Spoon

It doesn't 'seem' in some cases, without doubt it is reality.

Some men don't seek attention, far from it in my case. However every waking moment can't be 'baby, baby, baby if you are to keep your sanity.

If your idea of fun is talking to other new parents about baby grow styles and nappy contents then it's OK. I personally found some 'new friends' complete wets that I wouldn't have otherwise given the time of day to, but because you were now a member of the 'new baby club', thanks to your partners pre and post natal classes, you didn't want to appear the Victor Meldrew in this new found way of life.

I have friends on the other hand that can continue with all their pre- child lifestyle (within moderation) because they both understand how important it is to their relationship.

That's a quality my ex never had and of course you don't know this until it's too late unfortunately.

weapon69

A relationship has to adapt surely? Why need time to act as though you don't have kids? Am i just being extremely naive? Having a child together has added to my relationship not destroyed it......Personally i can't think of anything worse than going out to get drunk and stumbling back home in the early hours and my friends of the same age are all for it (no kids). Spoon you sound bitter about having children, which is not good for the kids is it?

Brendan Hughes

Does she sit on your bonnet often?

Apparition

Have to agree with Weapon.... Spoon, you had a bad experience didn't you ?
Well try being the mother and not being able to relate to the child for the first year of its life, try being nearly driven insane with guilt because of this, when everyone is telling you how lucky you are????? Post antal depression is a sod to deal with. Luckily, I came out of it with help. It left scares which, have only been healed with the arrival of my grandsons, they have given me a second chance.
Spoon, every experience is different. I hope you have a good one before your time is up matey.
Yve

Spoon

Errr that was my point, and for that it takes two.
No need to act at all. Integration is the key.
Good, I'm pleased for you.
Nobody even hinted on this, let alone suggest it.
Oh dear, I tell you of my experience and get diagnosed, which incidentally is way off the mark.

Hanslow

Sometimes Olly, I think you've borrowed my brain

Spoon

From what I am reading, you too had a bad experience so how you can agree with Weapon is slightly confusing.

Flatcapdriver

I get to do all that but I also have someone who can and wants to have a good time without the burden of kids plus have an awful lot more money to spend on ourselves.

Reality

Spoon - After everything you've been through you're still trying to understand women.

Save your sanity and don't try .

ps I'm not diagnosing you as clinically insane

Spoon

The only predictable thing about women is their unpredictability. The sooner blokes know this the better.

Wibble

weapon69

err where have i said i am referring to you? just an example of how motherhood has changed my opinion on my friends lifestyles.

Glad to hear it! Having kids was worth it all then wasn't it?

I just thought it was abit strange to refer to your child as a new toy that was all....

Spoon

You didn't but you'll find I never said you did either.

No it wasn't worth it all.

The word 'toy' wasn't to be taken literally although having said that it is a very close analogy, believe me.