Daryl

That's pretty obvious, and it's also obvious that's the reason you don't like iPods/iTunes. Why didn't you just admit that at the start?

OllyK

Cool, somebody who thinks they know my thoughts and opinions better than I do. I won't bother explaining why you're wrong as I'm sure you already know

angrynorth

And how do you organize those files, preview them, create playlists, rate them, view detailed information, view lyrics...

Also if you want to use any legal download services or use a better compression method such as wma or aac then you cannot use any of the other players on a Mac because you would have no way to preview a DRM'd wma file and most other devices don't support AAC so it would infact be pretty useless on a Mac.

Well, good for you don't buy one and thats great, but don't attack others for choosing to buy one just because you don't like them.

OllyK

I don't, and I don't want to. Just dump a selection on the player, select random play and off we go, job's a goodun'.

So it's not just the iPOD that's deficiant in the Apple range then?

**** me, when did the thought police arrive. I'm not attacking anybody on a personal level, I am expressing my opinion about a product offered by Apple, last time I checked TB hadn't banned that.

angrynorth

Problem not caused by Apple, its caused by MS so no - there are no defects in the Apple range thanks very much.

OllyK

angrynorth

Great response, well put.

OllyK

Your were serious??? You genuinely think there are no faults at all in any Apple products and everything is Microsoft's fault??

Dracoro

Although great, iTunes is not perfect. An annoyance I've got with iTunes is not putting the artwork in when I rip CD's. Do however have a 3rd party thing that does it but would prefer it to do it automatically (maybe in version 5.1 )

Anyway, NONE of the players are perfect, some will be better than others depending on your requirements. For about 95% of the population the iPod seems to be on the ball.

angrynorth

This particular fault, the one we are talking about is an MS problem not an Apple problem.

OllyK

I was referring to your statement after that:

If you were referring to just that issue then that's different. I don't know enough about it to pass comment, I just know with non Apple products, I don't have a problem. It read as if you were claiming Apple stuff has no faults, which is laughable, as it is for every other O/S.

timmyajmy93wrx

iTrader: (27)

Jees!

all i wanted to know is can i put my old mp3's tunes on to my pc to put on the ipod nano? and will i be able to transfer ripped cds i have made myself, through the pc to it?

Im not bothered if people like or dislike it, i do!! it seems to have come on loads and the only problem i have heard is this 'will only play tunes you have to download and pay for from itunes'

is this true or not!?!?!

thanks guys, this has been a great read!

tim

Dracoro

Yes and Yes

Daryl

Not at all, you have posted your thoughts and opinions on this thread! I'm just interpreting them as I see it and passing comment.

hotsam

www.ipodlounge.com

OllyK

Interpreted incorrectly unfortunately, it is sometimes better to read things at face value rather than adjusting them to suit your POV.

Robbie T

iTrader: (8)

This thread got a bit geeky and bitchy for my liking, cheers hotsam for the ipodlounge link very helpful .

Bless the rest of you, i'm sure it all seems very important in your lives

hotsam

ipodlounge should be able to answer most of your questions. Be sure to check out the software section. I've been happy with Anapod Explorer.

Markus

Ah yes, the "name the files on the iPod something random that is not the actual name of the song" feature that was introduced with iTunes 4.9.

It does mean that copying items in the Finder or Terminal is a bit more difficult, howerver, if you're mac based, get a copy of Podworks. Lovely bit of software. Allows you to copy items from the iPod onto your hard drive and the names of the files correspond to the song name, rather than the iPod name for the file

To those who don't like iTunes, what OS do you use and what application would you prefer to use to manage music on your iPod or your generic MP3 player?

OllyK

XP Pro / XP Home - Windows Explorer

Markus

Thanks for the info. What do you use to play the music on your computer, or don't you tend to do that?

From the sound of it, and I think you mentioned it, you're simply copying small items onto the mp3 player and you're not playing music directly from it on the computer, or playing music from your collection on your computer, or maybe I've missed something.

OllyK

I have my MP3s stored on my network at home on a 250Gb Hard drive. I enqueue the ones I want (usually the lot) across the network in Winamp and set it playing in random selection mode.

If I want to listen to music when I am out, I hook up the MP3 player, Open Windows Explorer and add or remove the ones that I want. Couldn't be easier.

angrynorth

Olly

You may find these two apps interesting.

http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/

http://www.ephpod.com/

Luan Pra bang

Ipods are rubbish and apparently were on watch dog this week for breaking just after the warranty runs out.

Markus

There was this report on Watchdog this week.

Again it's all about battery replacement, which I feel is a little different than the ipod breaking.

It's quite possible the batteries expired early due to people not understanding how the batteries in iPods work. They are not the same as your usually rechargeable batteries and as such there are certain things you should and should not do (have a peek here)

One thing people do is to let the iPod full drain and then leave it, this, if I recall correctly is a good way to kill the battery, and the battery type used really does not like being totally drained completely and may not recharge.

If the iPod is still in warranty, get a replacement, if it's not, well, pay for a replacement.