Tripple'O G

The question is the micra's speed and unfortunately there is no proof other than myself and passangers that he was "flying" round the corner.......

He was going too fast....he should have been driving at a speed where he could have stopped.
Driving 101......

Tripple'O G

Plus the stopping distances at 30mph = 23m or 6 car lengths.
40mph = 36m or 9 car lengths.

I measured from where I saw him initially to the point of impact and it was 27.4 meters away. He had more than enough time to break and he hit me at over 20mph....

Dick Cheese

Unfortunately you're thinking of this as if roundabout rules apply. The car going straight on or left will have priority at a green light. The markings on the road are only to tell you where to stop when the lights are red. If you are turning right at a green light with no filter in the situation in the picture, then you do not have the priority and you are turning across an oncoming lane which has priority and therefore does not have to yield to you.

You say that you were nearly off the junction, this would mean that in a normal circumstance he would have slowed down until you completed your maneuver to be courteous - BUT you say you didn't see him when you started to turn - he COULD say that he saw you sitting at the junction while he was approaching and you turned across his path - that would put you in the **** because if he could see you then you should have been able to see him. The location of the witnesses in this situation would be vital, so you can work how much of his approach road they could see.
There may be a case if he was speeding and the witnesses agree, but the fact that he is a driving instructor would mean he should know more about stopping distances than you!

In my opinion, alleging he was speeding (if you genuinely think he was) is your best bet.

billythekid

Hello. Speeding is going to have zip to do with it, speeding requires corroboration of a police officer or approved device (gatsometer etc).

So as it stands the speed is not going to fly. However, when it comes to the insurance claim the insurers are going to look at the layout of the road (if you could tell me what road this happened on then that would help) and how heavy the impact was, skid marks etc. There is a set of lights near me where the traffic lights are not visible until you are around 20m from them, its a 30mph limit and if you are doing 30mph you wont have time to stop before you run into a car at the lights if they are on red.

This happens often, every few months. The driver that rear ends the car on red will be looking at due care. This situation _could_ be similar, or it could be different. From what TOG has said so far its not possible to say either way, but if the damage is substantial then I expect they may well investigate further if they can be sure of putting liability on the other party.

The lights I am talking about are at the "O" in Ancoats.


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